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November 18, 2015, 02:33:10 AM
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With the recent attack in Paris, many questioned 'again' where the hell those terrorist got their funds. Hidden agenda or secret talks? Some people already know the hidden truth about it* and bitcoin already part of their sources.

Basically, because bitcoin transaction is as light as feather, it's really making hard to be accepted worldwide.

What can you say about this?



Are they very sure of this report?
oh well, if it is. i think using btc as source of their funds is just common.
as it is the easiest way to use. no more questions about it.
they also mention gold. so ii think btc dont really put a bad thing in here.
i think it actually comercialize it...


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November 18, 2015, 03:02:15 AM
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I figured, thanks for the link. After the author of the article was called out, he tweeted " Islamic State members/supporters have solicited #Bitcoin donations and made transactions. I stand by my story."

I bet they "have solicited #Bitcoin donations and made transactions"......but that is slightly different from "thousands of dollars worth of bitcoin has been sent to accounts purportedly affiliated with "Islamic State, with the one of the accounts registering its first transaction in 2012. However, following a chain of transactions from the concerned account leads to another with more than $3 million (2.65 million euros) in bitcoin" which is implying something more drastic. I wish there was a way he could share his proof Roll Eyes  top notch journalist



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November 18, 2015, 03:38:54 AM
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Honestly, there is no way for for the mainstream public to use bitcoin without bitcoin going into the hands of individuals who will use it for nefarious purposes. Similar to how just as fiat currency as the dollar is used to fund illegal operations and activities, you can't hold a mindset that someone won't use Bitcoin in a negative connotation to fund political/social change.
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November 18, 2015, 06:42:04 AM
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They are only guessing about it but on today morning i heard that they have used one messaging app which encrypt their messages. This may point towards bitcoin too as bitcoin is also encrypted coin.

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November 18, 2015, 06:48:04 AM
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After reading the whole story about funding sources the investigation still making guesses what funding sources can be used by these terrorist so they have not found any link which one used by them.
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November 18, 2015, 06:50:40 AM
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They are only guessing about it but on today morning i heard that they have used one messaging app which encrypt their messages. This may point towards bitcoin too as bitcoin is also encrypted coin.

I think so that is their imagination what source was the funding for them bitcoin easy to use and move around the world just in one click that is why they mentioned it can be one of these.
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November 18, 2015, 06:55:51 AM
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any "real proof" ISIS use Bitcoin ?

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November 18, 2015, 07:25:50 AM
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any "real proof" ISIS use Bitcoin ?

So far there is no solid proof isis used bitcoin as their funding sources.
So this is just a speculation that make botcoin have a bad side.

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November 18, 2015, 07:29:52 AM
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I read some presses about ISIL and Bitcoin recently. And I am thinking that those could be correct - funding via Bitcoin network. Bitcoin may be transparent on the internet (blockchain) but if one decide to use a mixer, it is hard to track. There is also no central authority which make it even easier to transfer money across countries. I really hope that there is a way to crack down terrorists funding process. Sadly there is no way in which Bitcoin is designed for. This is making more people to "hate" Bitcoin. This is not helping Bitcoin at all.

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November 18, 2015, 07:34:36 AM
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Their main funding source is USD as weapons and oil are traded in USD.
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November 18, 2015, 07:58:48 AM
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I think ISIS really use bitcoin as one of their funding sources, but i'm sure most founding sources comes from oil.
I hope they lost their wallet or hacked by someone, so we don't see news about criminal cases which use bitcoin.

Bitcoin is just minor part of their fundings, but media went crazy about it.



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November 18, 2015, 08:12:32 AM
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Their main funding source is USD as weapons and oil are traded in USD.

This!!

It just doesn't make any sense they use bitcoin. It's just an other currency. Don't get it why the news keep putting bitcoin into the bad news. A lot of good foundations use it too but that isn't in the news.
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November 18, 2015, 08:27:13 AM
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Their main funding source is USD as weapons and oil are traded in USD.

but no one talk about that, maybe because there is enough bad light on it? or because people want new stuff everytime, to spit on...

it seems that many cannot live without throwing shit at something every day
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November 18, 2015, 09:05:54 AM
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With the recent attack in Paris, many questioned 'again' where the hell those terrorist got their funds. Hidden agenda or secret talks? Some people already know the hidden truth about it* and bitcoin already part of their sources.

Basically, because bitcoin transaction is as light as feather, it's really making hard to be accepted worldwide.

What can you say about this?


Seems strange to me that bitcoin is seen as a source of financing the terrorism. It is true that bitcoin could be untraceable. It is true that can be transferred to many money without leaving signs of those. But to be used that bitcoin transferred must be exchanged in real money. If not, any amount of bitcoin can be used. And the rules of every exchange are that every person who make exchange (especially in big amounts) must be identify himself. So it is easily identifiable. It is almost the same with the bank transfers. At least this is I think. Why bitcoin is seen as a specific tool of terrorism if the things are in such way? Why the other money used after the change of bitcoin or those used through the transfer bank are not such tool?
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November 18, 2015, 09:17:35 AM
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Is very possible for IS using bitcoin as their funding source.

Since bitcoin is anonymous, and  what they like is because it  was untraceable.

I assume they use oil or gun for trading in black market using bitcoin as their currency.
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November 18, 2015, 10:35:54 AM
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It's okay, I believe it will make Bitcoin more famous around the world.
By The Way, there's nothing to worry about. We couldn't stop using it just because of this, if we should then we have to do it also with the gold.

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November 18, 2015, 10:38:32 AM
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There is no large scale bitcoin black market for military weapons. In fact it is not needed as these weapons are funded by the tax payers and the western banks are heavily involved. In the end the IS is funded by the IRS.
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November 18, 2015, 10:43:56 AM
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There is no large scale bitcoin black market for military weapons. In fact it is not needed as these weapons are funded by the tax payers and the western banks are heavily involved. In the end the IS is funded by the IRS.


Yes I agree with you. All this crap, ISIS and Al Qaeda are western country creations. Mostly American creations. These western countries will never admit this though and they will always try to find another things or people to make them guilty.

I am afraid and I have a little fear that they will make a scapegoat out of Bitcoin. Just like this reportage that we are discussing here and that mentioned Bitcoin as one of the sources of funding. The things start like this!
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November 18, 2015, 10:44:11 AM
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any "real proof" ISIS use Bitcoin ?
It is estimated that ISIS own bitcoin wallet worth $3 million. Following the recent attacks on Paris, GhostSec, an Anonymous off-shoot which actively hacks ISIS efforts worldwide, said that ISIS regularly uses cryptocurrencies to fund its operations.

More info: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ghostsec-isis-bitcoin-wallet-worth-3-million/

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November 18, 2015, 11:05:53 AM
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any "real proof" ISIS use Bitcoin ?
It is estimated that ISIS own bitcoin wallet worth $3 million. Following the recent attacks on Paris, GhostSec, an Anonymous off-shoot which actively hacks ISIS efforts worldwide, said that ISIS regularly uses cryptocurrencies to fund its operations.

More info: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ghostsec-isis-bitcoin-wallet-worth-3-million/
I'm wondering, what if the Anonymous successfully hack the wallet???
What will ISIS do next if they don't have more funds.

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