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November 18, 2015, 10:53:48 PM
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I have been lurking this site for a while. I just finally got the courage to sign up. It has come to my attention that it is covered in so many scam accusations. Too many newcomers are either scamming people, or being scammed. I have decided that this online transaction forum would do better if newcomers came with at least negative 20 in order to have motivation to be stable, and not scam anyone.


I am not a scammer, but I'd like to prove that by rising above my upcoming negative rating. I am a coder for a computer business, and two other websites dedicated to Bitcoin. From there, I will prove it by just rising above  the negative votes. When downvoting me, just say "because faggot" or whatever, or just don't say anything at all. Who thinks this could be a good idea to stop scammers?

When I've gotten my negative rating, I'll delete this entire thread, including posts and lock it since it won't serve purpose. I thought this was a good proposal.
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November 18, 2015, 10:58:41 PM
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I have been lurking this site for a while. It has come to my attention that it is covered in so many scam accusations. Too many newcomers are either scamming people, or being scammed. I have decided that this online transaction forum would do better if newcomers came with at least negative 20 in order to have motivation to be stable, and not scam anyone.


I am not a scammer, but I'd like to prove that by rising above my upcoming negative rating. I am a coder for a computer business, and two other websites dedicated to Bitcoin. From there, I will prove it by just rising above  the negative votes. When downvoting me, just say "because faggot" or whatever, or just don't say anything at all. Who thinks this could be a good idea to stop scammers?

When I've gotten my negative rating, I'll delete this entire thread, since it won't serve purpose. I thought this was a good proposal.

Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.

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November 18, 2015, 11:02:38 PM
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I have been lurking this site for a while. It has come to my attention that it is covered in so many scam accusations. Too many newcomers are either scamming people, or being scammed. I have decided that this online transaction forum would do better if newcomers came with at least negative 20 in order to have motivation to be stable, and not scam anyone.


I am not a scammer, but I'd like to prove that by rising above my upcoming negative rating. I am a coder for a computer business, and two other websites dedicated to Bitcoin. From there, I will prove it by just rising above  the negative votes. When downvoting me, just say "because faggot" or whatever, or just don't say anything at all. Who thinks this could be a good idea to stop scammers?

When I've gotten my negative rating, I'll delete this entire thread, since it won't serve purpose. I thought this was a good proposal.

Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.
That proposal doesn't make sense to me. Nowadays, you should be guilty until proven innocent.

If you're an innocent person, than prove it. I am willing to prove, so I have no reason to be upset about a negative 20 rating, so please give me a downvote. I am ready to prove that I'm a good person.
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November 18, 2015, 11:07:23 PM
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Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.
That proposal doesn't make sense to me. Nowadays, you should be guilty until proven innocent.

If you're an innocent person, than prove it. I am willing to prove, so I have no reason to be upset about a negative 20 rating, so please give me a downvote. I am ready to prove that I'm a good person.

Prove it by going around, doing your business. If people don't trust you to do an exchange with you, then use an escrow. (Unless you're doing some reversible payment exchange for bitcoins.) If anything, you should just completely disregard the little numbers under your username.

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November 18, 2015, 11:07:23 PM
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I have been lurking this site for a while. It has come to my attention that it is covered in so many scam accusations. Too many newcomers are either scamming people, or being scammed. I have decided that this online transaction forum would do better if newcomers came with at least negative 20 in order to have motivation to be stable, and not scam anyone.


I am not a scammer, but I'd like to prove that by rising above my upcoming negative rating. I am a coder for a computer business, and two other websites dedicated to Bitcoin. From there, I will prove it by just rising above  the negative votes. When downvoting me, just say "because faggot" or whatever, or just don't say anything at all. Who thinks this could be a good idea to stop scammers?

When I've gotten my negative rating, I'll delete this entire thread, since it won't serve purpose. I thought this was a good proposal.

Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.

Athertle said it good. Why don`t u be normal guy, and follow some simple rules and soon u will have bigger rank and maybe even some friends. We are starting from 0 here, all of us, and its not positive or negative. How time pass u will gain some trust for sure. Your propsal says clearly that we are all bad nad negative persons when we come here and we need to prove ourselfs. I dont like it, this system is good for now.


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November 18, 2015, 11:11:05 PM
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Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.
That proposal doesn't make sense to me. Nowadays, you should be guilty until proven innocent.

If you're an innocent person, than prove it. I am willing to prove, so I have no reason to be upset about a negative 20 rating, so please give me a downvote. I am ready to prove that I'm a good person.

Prove it by going around, doing your business. If people don't trust you to do an exchange with you, then use an escrow. (Unless you're doing some reversible payment exchange for bitcoins.) If anything, you should just completely disregard the little numbers under your username.
Then why do we even have trust?

It is understandable that newcomers can't be trusted. You have all been worried, so why can't my proposal be taken into immediate consideration? I'm just trying to do what I believe in.
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November 18, 2015, 11:11:56 PM
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Done OP, when you want it removed just pm me so i can review your posts and remove it if you arent doing anything bad
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November 18, 2015, 11:22:56 PM
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Done OP, when you want it removed just pm me so i can review your posts and remove it if you arent doing anything bad
I don't see the trust there at all though.

I don't think it went through.
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November 18, 2015, 11:25:26 PM
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Done OP, when you want it removed just pm me so i can review your posts and remove it if you arent doing anything bad
I don't see the trust there at all though.

I don't think it went through.
it went through, click untrusted feedback, i am not in default trust yet
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November 18, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
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Done OP, when you want it removed just pm me so i can review your posts and remove it if you arent doing anything bad
I don't see the trust there at all though.

I don't think it went through.
it went through, click untrusted feedback, i am not in default trust yet
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November 18, 2015, 11:44:00 PM
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Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.
That proposal doesn't make sense to me. Nowadays, you should be guilty until proven innocent.

If you're an innocent person, than prove it. I am willing to prove, so I have no reason to be upset about a negative 20 rating, so please give me a downvote. I am ready to prove that I'm a good person.

Prove it by going around, doing your business. If people don't trust you to do an exchange with you, then use an escrow. (Unless you're doing some reversible payment exchange for bitcoins.) If anything, you should just completely disregard the little numbers under your username.
Then why do we even have trust?

It is understandable that newcomers can't be trusted. You have all been worried, so why can't my proposal be taken into immediate consideration? I'm just trying to do what I believe in.

Because it does its job well of determining how the community thinks a user is trusted.

Let me put it this way: +0 is a NEUTRAL trust rating. It's like starting to count up/down from zero; you don't start counting from -20 and you don't start counting at +20. Zero is neutral, and so is +0.

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November 18, 2015, 11:45:15 PM
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Not really.

It'll become the norm to have negative feedbacks then, and it'll sort of nullify the effect of it.

If you're honest, then just go on ahead and do your business honestly and there shouldn't be a problem.
That proposal doesn't make sense to me. Nowadays, you should be guilty until proven innocent.

If you're an innocent person, than prove it. I am willing to prove, so I have no reason to be upset about a negative 20 rating, so please give me a downvote. I am ready to prove that I'm a good person.

Prove it by going around, doing your business. If people don't trust you to do an exchange with you, then use an escrow. (Unless you're doing some reversible payment exchange for bitcoins.) If anything, you should just completely disregard the little numbers under your username.
Then why do we even have trust?

It is understandable that newcomers can't be trusted. You have all been worried, so why can't my proposal be taken into immediate consideration? I'm just trying to do what I believe in.

Because it does its job well of determining how the community thinks a user is trusted.

Let me put it this way: +0 is a NEUTRAL trust rating. It's like starting to count up/down from zero; you don't start counting from -20 and you don't start counting at +20. Zero is neutral, and so is +0.
Okay well let me put it this way:

In the Holy Christian Bible, God the Father of the holy spirit sent Jesus to have the bad turn to good

Another example in this holy Bible is that when judgment day comes, you must prove yourself to be good to be accepted away from damnation. We all deserve to die. Only Jesus Christ our Savior is better than we humans. We are all born with a negative image for we are not Jesus, and must prove we are good.
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November 18, 2015, 11:48:07 PM
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I don't think that kind of system works. I mean, it only takes 10 seconds to create a newbie account. And based on what I have seen on the majority of numbers of all newbies here, if their accounts get negged, they will create a new clean one. That's just how thses people view it. It'll be harder to give up an account if it could reach a certain rank as full member then maybe in there people with negative trust will do something to clear their reputation here and remove the red tags.
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November 18, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
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I don't think that kind of system works. I mean, it only takes 10 seconds to create a newbie account. And based on what I have seen on the majority of numbers of all newbies here, if their accounts get negged, they will create a new clean one. That's just how thses people view it. It'll be harder to give up an account if it could reach a certain rank as full member then maybe in there people with negative trust will do something to clear their reputation here and remove the red tags.
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November 19, 2015, 12:47:16 PM
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that is like saying give me aids so i can work on finding a cure..

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November 22, 2015, 10:09:20 PM
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that is like saying give me aids so i can work on finding a cure..
of course you'd say this, just because you are abusing the trust as a more trusted user said via negative feedback on your page.
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November 24, 2015, 01:49:17 AM
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No one will want to give you a negative rep, it's just immoral. If you want to prove your trustablity, be active in the forum and help out. You don't need any negative trust, nor positive trust to be trusted. If you are well known and make alot of trades, people will naturally hear your name and trust you, positive trust or not.


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November 24, 2015, 01:56:11 AM
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i have left you a neutral.

i see one problem with your idea (thats also why i think what you are doing is trust abusing): if many people do this its impossible to detect people who have already scammed someone because anybody starts in the red.

i'd like to see proven scammers in red - new people may not be trustworthy but someone who scammed is more bad and the rating should reflect that

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November 24, 2015, 02:05:14 AM
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I don't think that kind of system works. I mean, it only takes 10 seconds to create a newbie account. And based on what I have seen on the majority of numbers of all newbies here, if their accounts get negged, they will create a new clean one. That's just how thses people view it. It'll be harder to give up an account if it could reach a certain rank as full member then maybe in there people with negative trust will do something to clear their reputation here and remove the red tags.
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I must say, you do it very well. 

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November 24, 2015, 01:15:14 PM
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that is like saying give me aids so i can work on finding a cure..
of course you'd say this, just because you are abusing the trust as a more trusted user said via negative feedback on your page.

The guy is a liar.

He randomly out of the blue sent me a PM about he thinks i am BiPolar then a PM with death / extortion threats.
I had never had any contact with the guy before he PM'd me.
I had never talked to or about him anywhere ever.
After i left him feedback for death threats etc..
he THEN left that feedback on me as retaliation.

..don't believe everything you read.

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