note: there is a lot more proof out there, I can retrieve this is there is questions about current proof. I feel this is more than enough to prove my point.
I will not post on my main account as I do not think credibility is deserved for busting scammers. It should be something done out of instinct and not something made profit from, which Quickseller/mexxer is currently doing.
It's so obvious, isn't it?
The two have exact same mannerisms in their posts, and same directive...to build trust by "busting" scams. It's funny how mexxer-2 only became extremely active AFTER Qs's bust...
Over 1500 posts made since September 26 2015, what a coincidence that QS was busted only two weeks before?
Also has a history before this date in account trading. His first posts relate to selling a junior/full member account:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891368.msg9825583#msg9825583https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=933764.0Surprising that QS participates in topic two, isn't it?
1. QS and Mexxer both have sole interest to sell BCT accounts when they first join.
2. Eventually both decide to become 'scam busters’
3. Mexxer makes over 1500 posts, majority around account selling as well as scam busting in less than 2 months, only 2 weeks after QS loses his default trust/is in negative.
4. Mexxer supports QS in most of his posts that mention him. rarely has anything negative to say about QS and when he does have something negative to say, his other posts contradict this.
5. Mexxer and QS BOTH participate in very similar sections of the forums...so much so that their posting by section % is almost IDENTICAL
https://i.imgur.com/twns4Ss.pngSince I can't post images here is a large table for those who will simply scan this thread and not click that link. For a more accurate reading click that link.
Mexxer-2 and Quicksilver “Most Popular Boards by Activity readings (8/10 categories are THE SAME and in SIMILAR ORDER/PERCENTAGE)| Mexxer-2 | Quickseller |
| Reputation | Meta |
| Meta | Reputation |
| Lending | Lending |
| Services | New Forum Software |
| Digital Goods | Archival |
| Currency Exchange | Auctions |
| Scam Accusations | Digital Goods |
| Archival | Electrum |
| Investor-Based Games | Currency Exchange |
More supporting evidence, Mexxer has mentioned QuickSeller (QS) in 12 posts, majority of which completely support QS in his 'escrow drama' or in someway benefit the "QS" alias, or explain issues in regard to him.
Mexxer mentioning QS, this time mentioning recent drama. All ‘dramas’ are just happened to be issues that QuickSeller was involved in. Coincidence? No. This is just a prime example of QS’ memory thinking of the first issues off the top of his head, just happening to be the issues he made himself involved in.-snip-
P.S: Good idea, btw there should also be a thread for the recent drama, eg: marco's hacked account selling, QS drama, dicebitcoin drama, dice.ninja drama... and the list just goes on.
mexxer-2 to support quickseller hater!How does this relate to QS, it is going to happen anyway as owner may just sell it through PM to anyone interested .
@OP you have written +12 , does that mean number of feedback or trust rating? More importantly are all of them from Depth 2 or 1? As by default, only level 2 and higher are viewed by most members.
how would mexxer know anything about QS reporting accuracy?You need to report a lot of posts with a decent accuracy to be considerd for being a mod. What are your current stats? And as others have said asking to be a mod is usually the wrong way to go about it. Put in the effort reporting posts and being active and maybe it'll pay off in the future.
Yeah and I guess not be involved much in the disputes like QS did, he also had a quite high reporting accuracy but wasn't considered for mod, but that was before he got involved in the escrow drama.
Anyway what was your reporting accuracy before you got the "Chosen one" title from lord theymos?
I was curious to know this.Thanks this clarifies everything about trust system.
Can anyone tell me how the forum DefaultTrust users are chosed? like vod is trusted and if he just give someone negative then most of the people can see his red trust so how can someone someone count in default trust? does that mean vod is in DT list of everyone?
You are going off-topic on your own thread, at any rate the explanation.
Theymos(admin) chooses people for depth 1 of DefaultTrust, and people on defaulttrust depth 2 are chosen by people on depth 1. So whenever a defaulttrust member level 1 member (say vod) adds QS to his trust list, QS would now be in defaulttrust depth two and so on. By default you only trust defaultTrust members up to depth 2.
Another Q : Is it possible that member from DT create his alt to give his feedback into his alt .... ?
Yes it is possible but they will most likely not do it, as it will raise suspicions on their main acc. , and probably cause them to be removed from DT(as in case of QS).
I never have given positive trust to any of my alts (except for testing purposes that were always removed within minutes).
Ok maybe I should rephrase my words better from next time, I meant any type of shady activity( like giving feedback to alts ) will get you removed from DT in the same way you got
Nope, still wrong. BadBear removed me because I lied about being banned. It has nothing to do with escrowing my own deal. Tomatocage removed me from his trust list because of the huge amount of pressure he received from others to remove me.
There are several examples of others who I know have escrowed their own deals in the past, and a few additional people above those people who I suspect escrow their own deals without issue. Some of these people are still on DT, and I have a good reason to believe that their Level1 sponsors are well aware that (at least in some cases) they are escrowing their own deal.
edit: it has been a while since I last tallied who I was certain who was escrowing their own deals, however IIRC I was aware of ~5 well respected/trusted people (myself included) who I knew with certainty that they were escrowing their own deals, and another ~3-4 people who I strongly suspect have at least attempted to escrow their own deal.
Considering the fact that a helpful guy like shorena, who has 5k+ reports with 97% accuracy still hasn't been promoted to a Patroller yet, I wouldn't expect anyone to be promoted to mod soon.
P.S: Another thing that I might consider an important factor would be Neutrality of that person(in the marketplace specially), IIRC QS was not promoted to Patroller even with a high reporting accuracy stat.
*This specific instance not only mentioning ‘escrow drama’, but also acting dumb about the TurtleHuricane incident which in this period he was STILL POSTING while the occurrence was going on and also posting on his QS account.Last I saw he was a hero member with neutral trust offering currency exchange for credit cards. Before that I saw him in the QS escrow drama. Now he is a full member with 4 negatives stating that he defaulted on a loan, what did I miss?
You need to report a lot of posts with a decent accuracy to be considerd for being a mod. What are your current stats? And as others have said asking to be a mod is usually the wrong way to go about it. Put in the effort reporting posts and being active and maybe it'll pay off in the future.
Yeah and I guess not be involved much in the disputes like QS did, he also had a quite high reporting accuracy but wasn't considered for mod, but that was before he got involved in the escrow drama.
Anyway what was your reporting accuracy before you got the "Chosen one" title from lord theymos?
4) Shorena and his personal alt sho_road_warrior
I am pretty sure the definition of an alt is that they are owned by the same person so it is kinda redundant to say that they are personal alts.
-snip pointless junk-
Maybe I should make a public shame list in meta for all of the useless spam posters. Add the shit posters to it and point campaign managers and staff at it.
You would probably be faced with a lot of hate (mainly by the people you add). But I would support creating the list.
What about some kind of public voting thing for the quality of users' posts? Not sure how that would work.
Well, we would need to make sure only obvious spammers were added. Not sure the best method for adding users, but feel free to make suggestions.
Support for it as well. I think the most obvious way to add users would be to have a public suggestion thread, where people could suggest for certain spammers to be added, and then others could tell you what they think about it and so on and so forth. A main thread would probably be the best way to do it.
Wouldn't work, for example people(trolls I like to call them) and their alts will be pretty bent on getting me on that list. Same goes for people like QS , BlazedOut or anyone on DT who have given a bunch of negative feedback. Only something centralized, but slightly decentralized will be able to hold against the horde of alts, DT is the best working example(in most of the cases that is).
just like your 'personal' sense of morality?
Okay guys quit it, no further discussion about QS and his alts, if you want to prove that BPB is indeed QS's alt, do it in another thread, here I will only be providing alt names and proofs as threads which are more or less accepted by the whole community.
4) Shorena and his personal alt sho_road_warrior
I am pretty sure the definition of an alt is that they are owned by the same person so it is kinda redundant to say that they are personal alts.
I meant to say that unlike most bought alt accounts, shorena himself has created his alt for use over the "holidays". At any rate edited to clairfy.
Lastly, I do like most of your presented arguments QS but sometime you go too far with them, if this was an issue to you, you could have replied to me via PM and I would have edited the OP accordingly.
How to find if the trusted members are still the guys we know
1) Vod- use of
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2) SebastianJu- Randomly uses "i" instead of "I" in some sentences
3) Quickseller- Writes in a complicated and long manner which makes it hard for (normal) people to read
4) Shorena- Mostly neutral view and is helpful in techical things
Let me know if you know of ways of recognizing some other guys
Mexxer is building his trust VERY fast. He has 2 default trust ratings already, for no trading reasons. It is simple logic, QS is done with his old account and only rarely uses it to mask his current existence as mexxer-2. More evidence can be provided if 100% needed.
