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December 08, 2012, 04:31:05 PM
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Perhaps you should ask yourself, which one would you rather be? Wink

The bird.

I see... So the bird is now a metaphor for poor Myrkul? What was that link you posted earlier, accusing others of changing the goalposts? Roll Eyes

You asked a question, I answered it. Do you have a problem?

Then let me rephrase:
Is it still murder if you kill a murderer?

Depends upon the conditions, of course, since the very word "murder" implys an unjust killing.
Indeed. I would consider counter-trolling to be fighting fire with fire. Killing the murderer, while he is in the act of attempting murder. NAP as applied to forum behavior. If you initiate trolling, you should not be surprised, nor complain, if you get trolled back.

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December 08, 2012, 04:33:53 PM
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Perhaps you should ask yourself, which one would you rather be? Wink

The bird.

I see... So the bird is now a metaphor for poor Myrkul? What was that link you posted earlier, accusing others of changing the goalposts? Roll Eyes

You asked a question, I answered it. Do you have a problem?

Then let me rephrase:
Is it still murder if you kill a murderer?

Depends upon the conditions, of course, since the very word "murder" implys an unjust killing.
Indeed. I would consider counter-trolling to be fighting fire with fire. Killing the murderer, while he is in the act of attempting murder. NAP as applied to forum behavior. If you initiate trolling, you should not be surprised, no complain, if you get trolled back.

I'm sorry. I could have sworn that just ignoring the troll's thread was also a viable option. By entering the thread to counter troll, you would appear to be purposefully escalating the situation. As I understand it, purposeful escalation runs contrary to the NAP.

Alternatively, you could abandon your shitty principles and live a free life unencumbered by dogma.

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December 08, 2012, 11:04:04 PM
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Then let me rephrase:
Is it still murder if you kill a murderer?

Depends upon the conditions, of course, since the very word "murder" implys an unjust killing.
Indeed. I would consider counter-trolling to be fighting fire with fire. Killing the murderer, while he is in the act of attempting murder. NAP as applied to forum behavior. If you initiate trolling, you should not be surprised, no complain, if you get trolled back.

I do see your point here, and I actually do agree.  However, I must point out that our resident Krugman fan is correct; it's still better to not feed the troll, even if you have the right to respond in kind.  Trolls are often only after the joy of causing an emotional response, and ignoring them simply removes the reward for this activity.

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December 08, 2012, 11:50:49 PM
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Then let me rephrase:
Is it still murder if you kill a murderer?

Depends upon the conditions, of course, since the very word "murder" implys an unjust killing.
Indeed. I would consider counter-trolling to be fighting fire with fire. Killing the murderer, while he is in the act of attempting murder. NAP as applied to forum behavior. If you initiate trolling, you should not be surprised, nor complain, if you get trolled back.

I do see your point here, and I actually do agree.  However, I must point out that our resident Krugman fan is correct; it's still better to not feed the troll, even if you have the right to respond in kind.  Trolls are often only after the joy of causing an emotional response, and ignoring them simply removes the reward for this activity.

Indeed, simply ignoring them is the moral "high road," and will, in the long term, cause them to stop, or at least greatly reduce, this sort of behavior. But counter-trolling works just as well, if not better, and is a lot more fun.

Tit-for-tat, after all, calls for response-in-kind.

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December 09, 2012, 01:38:12 AM
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I think I'm going to try out MoonShadow's "just ignore the asshat" tactic... Which should be easy, since I have wawahwah on ignore.

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December 09, 2012, 04:39:52 AM
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Hahaha!  "wahwahwah", fits the character like a glove.

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