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July 13, 2016, 06:54:28 PM
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5V/2A max peek Power, that is the cruel ...
They print on the specs only the peek power.
That could you only get in best conditions....
when you not living in dubai and the perfect day time an angel to sun is given the give much less power.
If it are good ones than you can get round about 55 % from them also 5,5 Watt each but the good ones are very expensive.
Calculate with 30 - 35 % so you get 3 - 3,5 Watt each so it is in sum only 6 - 7 Watt.
Then it depends on the electronic to stabilize the power (V and A) this took also 0,5 - 1 Watt so effective you get from both 5 - 6 Watt.
That is not enough for the 10 Watt stick, this will be consumpted at boot full 10 Watt.
So that it could be possible to get it work with a buffer LiPo for the system start.
After fully started the power consumption should fall.

Take a look at Pine64+ there are 3 Versions with 512, 1024 and 2048 MB Ram 15, 19 and 29 USD. They only use 5V 0,51 A tested at Version 1.4 and they have directly a 3.7 V LiPo Loader onboard. At time the most powerfull Single Board Computer with the lowest powerconsumption. Raspberry 12 Watt, BananaPi 7,8 Watt and this little devil 2,5 Watt
That's looking good indeed and I'm happy to get this kind of information. The bottleneck is indeed the power consumption at boot and this little fellow could really do the trick.
I'm looking further into it and I hope Gabi will also show up to give a bit of info at where he is standing now with his Pi.
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July 13, 2016, 07:03:32 PM
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thank you! i will try it now.

but how to resync if it synchronizes all week long and i cant see the end . still ~187738 blocks left...

If you feel a resync is in order, follow these instructions to do so: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1272091.msg15127125#msg15127125


EDIT: of course, ingnore that it mentions v1.2.1 in that post. You are correct in using v1.3

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1466445.0
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July 13, 2016, 07:11:09 PM
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5V/2A max peek Power, that is the cruel ...
They print on the specs only the peek power.
That could you only get in best conditions....
when you not living in dubai and the perfect day time an angel to sun is given the give much less power.
If it are good ones than you can get round about 55 % from them also 5,5 Watt each but the good ones are very expensive.
Calculate with 30 - 35 % so you get 3 - 3,5 Watt each so it is in sum only 6 - 7 Watt.
Then it depends on the electronic to stabilize the power (V and A) this took also 0,5 - 1 Watt so effective you get from both 5 - 6 Watt.
That is not enough for the 10 Watt stick, this will be consumpted at boot full 10 Watt.
So that it could be possible to get it work with a buffer LiPo for the system start.
After fully started the power consumption should fall.

Take a look at Pine64+ there are 3 Versions with 512, 1024 and 2048 MB Ram 15, 19 and 29 USD. They only use 5V 0,51 A tested at Version 1.4 and they have directly a 3.7 V LiPo Loader onboard. At time the most powerfull Single Board Computer with the lowest powerconsumption. Raspberry 12 Watt, BananaPi 7,8 Watt and this little devil 2,5 Watt
That's looking good indeed and I'm happy to get this kind of information. The bottleneck is indeed the power consumption at boot and this little fellow could really do the trick.
I'm looking further into it and I hope Gabi will also show up to give a bit of info at where he is standing now with his Pi.

i think the pi would have the same problems like your stick... takes 9 Watt permanent peek to 10 Watt at boot time. got all 4 Versions at home + all Bananapi Versions... Pine64+ is now on the way 2 times ...
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July 13, 2016, 08:14:43 PM
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wow bump today... Smiley

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July 13, 2016, 08:20:17 PM
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Meanwhile at Bittrex...

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July 13, 2016, 08:25:41 PM
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Meanwhile at Bittrex...



Hope volume will keep growing...
Now just 11 BTC volume Smiley

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July 13, 2016, 08:33:06 PM
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Lets hope it will get more people into the EGC community.

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July 13, 2016, 10:40:05 PM
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1277 now, need 5BTC to 2k, go evergreen

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July 13, 2016, 10:57:20 PM
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Muhahaha!


Im sure a certain someone is pretty sad he dumped a ton of coins to us for 150 sat or.. was it less, a while ago.

Thanks again <3

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Replying to a few posts in one.

maybe it was also possible to drive an pine64 with it (the better raspberry with mutch less powerconsumption) it needs only 6Watt max. maybe without doing any else then a commandline wallet and a Webfrontend for it based on Node.js or ngix webserver

EDIT:

Wow new 1.4 Version has a LiPo 3,7 V charging circut included ! so it sounds perfect for it and they reduce the power consumption to 2,5 Watt

If that's based on http://wiki.pine64.org/images/1/1d/Power_Consumption.jpg someone needs to learn maths, 5.1*0.53 is not 2.5, there's also no comment on what the SBC is doing (I'd suspect that's idling).


Take a look at Pine64+ there are 3 Versions with 512, 1024 and 2048 MB Ram 15, 19 and 29 USD. They only use 5V 0,51 A tested at Version 1.4 and they have directly a 3.7 V LiPo Loader onboard. At time the most powerfull Single Board Computer with the lowest powerconsumption. Raspberry 12 Watt, BananaPi 7,8 Watt and this little devil 2,5 Watt
Both the Pine64 and the Pi3 run the A53 CPU core at the same speed that would mean their performance is likely to be equivalent. The Pine64 may be able to run fully 64 bit, the Pi3 currently cannot but it' not clear if that will make any difference in performance, the reports I've seen so far suggest that 64bit arm linux is still buggy, 64bit will also lead to larger pointers and some variable sizes which will lead to the same code needing more memory.

No Raspberry Pi uses 12W, the Pi3 suggests a ~12W PSU however at least half that capacity is to allow for USB peripherals meaning the Pi3 needs around 6W for the SBC. There is even evidence that the Pi3 needs just over 1W at idle and under 4W full load (http://raspi.tv/2016/how-much-power-does-raspberry-pi3b-use-how-fast-is-it-compared-to-pi2b). Based on my experience I think full load on the Pi3 is a bit higher (nearer 6W) however I've not seen any of the older Pi models need over 5W for full load.

i think the pi would have the same problems like your stick... takes 9 Watt permanent peek to 10 Watt at boot time. got all 4 Versions at home + all Bananapi Versions... Pine64+ is now on the way 2 times ...
As above, no it doesnt! Most of the pi models are 5W max, the Pi3 is 6-7W max for the SBC.

and as a useful quote from the Pine64 FAQ (http://www.pine64.com/faq-pine-64#toggle-id-20)
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The board is powered by +5v microUSB port. Exactly how much power is required, in terms of current. (mA), is depending on what you hook up to the board. An official 2.0A (2000mA) power supply is available at the Pine64 store with ample power to run the board for most applications.
So they also suggest a 2A PSU for the board + 2x USB devices, compared to the Pi3's 2.5A PSU for board + 4x USB devices. That would suggest they're power requirement are fairly similar.

The one advantage the Pine64 does have over most other boards is the option to have 2GB of ram.

After all that the SBC I'm interested in trying out with the EGC wallet is the C.H.I.P. this is a $9 board that includes eMMC storage, lipo charger, and wifi and 0.5-1W power draw. The potential issues are only 512MB or ram and single core SOC, this is likely to make compiling the wallet more challenging, and my make running it difficult as well. If it works its literally a case of plug in power and go (everything else you need is included on a $9 board).
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July 14, 2016, 02:10:43 AM
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https://youtu.be/v-jvXkYy3Fo

EverGreenCoin is being mentioned on Coinigy's investment strategy live stream! Smiley

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July 14, 2016, 03:24:43 AM
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Replying to a few posts in one.

maybe it was also possible to drive an pine64 with it (the better raspberry with mutch less powerconsumption) it needs only 6Watt max. maybe without doing any else then a commandline wallet and a Webfrontend for it based on Node.js or ngix webserver

EDIT:

Wow new 1.4 Version has a LiPo 3,7 V charging circut included ! so it sounds perfect for it and they reduce the power consumption to 2,5 Watt

If that's based on http://wiki.pine64.org/images/1/1d/Power_Consumption.jpg someone needs to learn maths, 5.1*0.53 is not 2.5, there's also no comment on what the SBC is doing (I'd suspect that's idling).


Take a look at Pine64+ there are 3 Versions with 512, 1024 and 2048 MB Ram 15, 19 and 29 USD. They only use 5V 0,51 A tested at Version 1.4 and they have directly a 3.7 V LiPo Loader onboard. At time the most powerfull Single Board Computer with the lowest powerconsumption. Raspberry 12 Watt, BananaPi 7,8 Watt and this little devil 2,5 Watt
Both the Pine64 and the Pi3 run the A53 CPU core at the same speed that would mean their performance is likely to be equivalent. The Pine64 may be able to run fully 64 bit, the Pi3 currently cannot but it' not clear if that will make any difference in performance, the reports I've seen so far suggest that 64bit arm linux is still buggy, 64bit will also lead to larger pointers and some variable sizes which will lead to the same code needing more memory.

No Raspberry Pi uses 12W, the Pi3 suggests a ~12W PSU however at least half that capacity is to allow for USB peripherals meaning the Pi3 needs around 6W for the SBC. There is even evidence that the Pi3 needs just over 1W at idle and under 4W full load (http://raspi.tv/2016/how-much-power-does-raspberry-pi3b-use-how-fast-is-it-compared-to-pi2b). Based on my experience I think full load on the Pi3 is a bit higher (nearer 6W) however I've not seen any of the older Pi models need over 5W for full load.

i think the pi would have the same problems like your stick... takes 9 Watt permanent peek to 10 Watt at boot time. got all 4 Versions at home + all Bananapi Versions... Pine64+ is now on the way 2 times ...
As above, no it doesnt! Most of the pi models are 5W max, the Pi3 is 6-7W max for the SBC.

and as a useful quote from the Pine64 FAQ (http://www.pine64.com/faq-pine-64#toggle-id-20)
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The board is powered by +5v microUSB port. Exactly how much power is required, in terms of current. (mA), is depending on what you hook up to the board. An official 2.0A (2000mA) power supply is available at the Pine64 store with ample power to run the board for most applications.
So they also suggest a 2A PSU for the board + 2x USB devices, compared to the Pi3's 2.5A PSU for board + 4x USB devices. That would suggest they're power requirement are fairly similar.

The one advantage the Pine64 does have over most other boards is the option to have 2GB of ram.

After all that the SBC I'm interested in trying out with the EGC wallet is the C.H.I.P. this is a $9 board that includes eMMC storage, lipo charger, and wifi and 0.5-1W power draw. The potential issues are only 512MB or ram and single core SOC, this is likely to make compiling the wallet more challenging, and my make running it difficult as well. If it works its literally a case of plug in power and go (everything else you need is included on a $9 board).

Thanks for the input guys! Glad to see you stuck around LeChuck!

A lite version of the daemon could be made for this purpose, removing some of the unnecessary code. PoW mining code for example. I can begin looking into this.

My personal vision of the solar miner has always been a daemon, 'command line' as called, with a web interface. Keeping the cost down with no display, which would be almost useless for an outdoor application, and removing the unnecessary overhead of the Qt and supporting environment in my mind makes this an obvious approach.

My initial reaction is I like how the Pine64's name fits with EverGreenCoin. Wink Of course, power consumption is a much greater concern. Making the C.H.I.P. more fitting, plus the lower cost. But, as mentioned, it being able to compile and run the daemon, even a lite version, remains to be seen. Some testing will have to be done.

I have asked Gabi to chime in here. Again, thanks for the input everyone.

EDIT: Ordered my C.H.I.P. to experiment with.

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EverGreenCoin blockchain has been updated at CryptoChainer.com for instant sync.  If you grab this blockchain snapshot, your wallet will be synchronized up to 7/13/16 with no importing blocks.

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EverGreenCoin blockchain has been updated at CryptoChainer.com for instant sync.  If you grab this blockchain snapshot, your wallet will be synchronized up to 7/13/16 with no importing blocks.

Many thanks, fellow Steve!

EDIT: This has been added to the OP.

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Reserved Blue tshirt,send to poland?

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Reserved Blue tshirt,send to poland?

I do believe so. A community member actually made the campaign, they might know better. But, according to what I find in the teespring EU FAQ, they will ship there regardless of how the campaign was setup. You should have had to pay for international shipping.

I have emailed teespring asking for verification. I will post and PM you just as soon as I get a response.

Thanks for the order!


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Reserved Blue tshirt,send to poland?

I do believe so. A community member actually made the campaign, they might know better. But, according to what I find in the teespring EU FAQ, they will ship there regardless of how the campaign was setup. You should have had to pay for international shipping.

I have emailed teespring asking for verification. I will post and PM you just as soon as I get a response.

Thanks for the order!



Wow, they got back to me quick!  Smiley

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Thank you for reaching out to Teespring Support!

I am happy to help. Yes, we do ship to Poland. When placing the order, just change the country first and the format will automatically change.

Our international shipping fee is $12.50 USD for the initial item, plus $4 USD for each additional t-shirt. The shirt should arrive within 17-21 days from the end of the campaign.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if there is anything else that I can help you.

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After all that the SBC I'm interested in trying out with the EGC wallet is the C.H.I.P. this is a $9 board that includes eMMC storage, lipo charger, and wifi and 0.5-1W power draw. The potential issues are only 512MB or ram and single core SOC, this is likely to make compiling the wallet more challenging, and my make running it difficult as well. If it works its literally a case of plug in power and go (everything else you need is included on a $9 board).

A lite version of the daemon could be made for this purpose, removing some of the unnecessary code. PoW mining code for example. I can begin looking into this.

My personal vision of the solar miner has always been a daemon, 'command line' as called, with a web interface. Keeping the cost down with no display, which would be almost useless for an outdoor application, and removing the unnecessary overhead of the Qt and supporting environment in my mind makes this an obvious approach.

My initial reaction is I like how the Pine64's name fits with EverGreenCoin. Wink Of course, power consumption is a much greater concern. Making the C.H.I.P. more fitting, plus the lower cost. But, as mentioned, it being able to compile and run the daemon, even a lite version, remains to be seen. Some testing will have to be done.

I have asked Gabi to chime in here. Again, thanks for the input everyone.

EDIT: Ordered my C.H.I.P. to experiment with.

Having a cutdown daemon could be interesting, I've been running the daemon (without QT) on my Pi and that seems to have been working ok (although a bit slow at importing the block chain), htop seems to suggest it's using around 26% of the available 1G of ram so there's some hope it might fit on a smaller device.

Compilation we might be able to fix by cross compiling and creating a package, then it's just a case of installing the binaries, the packaging side is something I wanted to look at anyway on the Pi so I can easily install it on another Pi without having to install the whole dev environment.

I might see if I can at least get it compiling on my C.H.I.P later today.
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https://youtu.be/v-jvXkYy3Fo

EverGreenCoin is being mentioned on Coinigy's investment strategy live stream! Smiley
For those that are interested, the EGC part starts at 59:40

Btw EGC just passed 20 btc volume at Bittrex   Grin
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After all that the SBC I'm interested in trying out with the EGC wallet is the C.H.I.P. this is a $9 board that includes eMMC storage, lipo charger, and wifi and 0.5-1W power draw. The potential issues are only 512MB or ram and single core SOC, this is likely to make compiling the wallet more challenging, and my make running it difficult as well. If it works its literally a case of plug in power and go (everything else you need is included on a $9 board).

A lite version of the daemon could be made for this purpose, removing some of the unnecessary code. PoW mining code for example. I can begin looking into this.

My personal vision of the solar miner has always been a daemon, 'command line' as called, with a web interface. Keeping the cost down with no display, which would be almost useless for an outdoor application, and removing the unnecessary overhead of the Qt and supporting environment in my mind makes this an obvious approach.

My initial reaction is I like how the Pine64's name fits with EverGreenCoin. Wink Of course, power consumption is a much greater concern. Making the C.H.I.P. more fitting, plus the lower cost. But, as mentioned, it being able to compile and run the daemon, even a lite version, remains to be seen. Some testing will have to be done.

I have asked Gabi to chime in here. Again, thanks for the input everyone.

EDIT: Ordered my C.H.I.P. to experiment with.

Having a cutdown daemon could be interesting, I've been running the daemon (without QT) on my Pi and that seems to have been working ok (although a bit slow at importing the block chain), htop seems to suggest it's using around 26% of the available 1G of ram so there's some hope it might fit on a smaller device.

Compilation we might be able to fix by cross compiling and creating a package, then it's just a case of installing the binaries, the packaging side is something I wanted to look at anyway on the Pi so I can easily install it on another Pi without having to install the whole dev environment.

I might see if I can at least get it compiling on my C.H.I.P later today.


I am working on EGC lite now. There is actually a lot of functions and even a few header and source files I can trim out completely now with PoW over. I think this will be a good idea regardless of what device is chosen for the solar miner. That said, the planned android wallet and desktop wallets could benefit from this trimming. With that in mind, perhaps it is a new version I am working on, not "EGC lite." I am excited to see how big of an impact on resources this will have.

Yes, importing the blockchain is intensive. Snapshotting is much faster. There is a recent snapshot in the OP should anyone need it. (Thanks again CryptoChainer!)

Yes, a package is what we will certainly want when we are cranking these out on a production level.

If you do find time to test on your CHIP, I would greatly appreciate it. If you do or whenever you can, please share your results. At this time, I personally only have a Pi emulator to experiment with.

Many thanks!

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