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Author Topic: [ANN][EGC] EverGreenCoin | Environmental Green Causes | Full 7% PoS | Foundation  (Read 283703 times)
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November 04, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
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@David
Thx for taking your time to address the concerns that we had extensively.
I hope to see more of this kinda feedback from you. Also in the Slack group.
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November 05, 2016, 01:27:07 AM
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@David
Thx for taking your time to address the concerns that we had extensively.
I hope to see more of this kinda feedback from you. Also in the Slack group.

You're welcome, Mate.

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November 05, 2016, 01:29:20 AM
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Many thanks to abyaby123 for updating the German ANN translation! If the other authors of translated ANN OPs could please find time to update their translations, we all would greatly appreciate that. Thank you in advance!

Thanks to gizfreak for his work on the new graphics used and thanks to the community members that provided the feedback to drive this change. If you have yet to see the updated ANN OP, please take a gander, if you wish. We think you will agree, the cleaner design is very aesthetically pleasing. Of course, thank you to all the artist that have contributed in all the various ways, especially the now numerous ANN OP revisions. Your contributions are not forgotten.

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November 05, 2016, 01:57:48 AM
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@David
Thx for taking your time to address the concerns that we had extensively.
I hope to see more of this kinda feedback from you. Also in the Slack group.

You're welcome, Mate.

David
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David has informed me he has completed his responses as of now.  I thank David for finding the time to do so. His detailed explanations of the circumstances leading to the continued delays, I hope, is found satisfying to the community. Of course and likewise, I hope his attention is found as reassuring and does reestablish any confidence lost.

If anyone has any observation, feedback, and/or further questions, please feel free to voice them now. All input from the community is, always has been, and always will be greatly appreciated.

EDIT: please and for readability, no need to quote the wall of text. Wink

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November 06, 2016, 12:47:54 AM
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great, team working, and as the wallet android
You have date?
It has been negotiating to join the exchange poloniex?

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November 06, 2016, 02:16:07 AM
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great, team working, and as the wallet android
You have date?
It has been negotiating to join the exchange poloniex?



No ETA for the Android wallet as of now. I am pleased to say, some recent events have brought the staking Android wallet back on the table. In light of that, it would be great to offer both. A staking wallet for those devices or users less worried about battery consumption and a non-staking wallet for those devices or users that can not afford the battery consumption. At any rate, we will at minimal have one, staking or non, in Q4 as roadmapped.

The addition of EverGreenCoin to Poloniex is their decission. Please fill out a coin request form and tweet at them if you would care to help us convince them to add EverGreenCoin.

Thank you for your interest!

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November 06, 2016, 07:46:53 AM
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great, team working, and as the wallet android
You have date?
It has been negotiating to join the exchange poloniex?



No ETA for the Android wallet as of now. I am pleased to say, some recent events have brought the staking Android wallet back on the table. In light of that, it would be great to offer both. A staking wallet for those devices or users less worried about battery consumption and a non-staking wallet for those devices or users that can not afford the battery consumption. At any rate, we will at minimal have one, staking or non, in Q4 as roadmapped.

The addition of EverGreenCoin to Poloniex is their decission. Please fill out a coin request form and tweet at them if you would care to help us convince them to add EverGreenCoin.

Thank you for your interest!

I've filled out the form on Polo fingers crossed that there will be enough people fill it out for them to notice.

An Andriod wallet with staking support sounds great.

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November 06, 2016, 09:49:13 PM
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An Andriod wallet with staking support sounds great.

    EGC owners who do not stake their wallets presently, when their main computer is online at their desk - for whatever reason; may enjoy staking from an Android wallet.

    Bitcoin Android wallet users thought everything was great until August of 2013 too, when the implementation flaws with the Java SecureRandom class had been identified.
    Probably, carrying a balance to buy a cup of coffee is no sizable risk - and also would bring no appreciable staking reward.

    Is a staking Android wallet really a great feature when the platform has a colored history for generation of secure random numbers?
    This question is probably best answered way upstream by those more heavily invested -- the Bitcoin guys who had paid heavily for the thefts from their wallets.

    A heist is a heist after all and if the signatures are ever much less random then expected; the scenario from August 2013 could be repeated.

    Starman, do you stake on the other other EvergreenCoin wallets presently?

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November 06, 2016, 11:26:12 PM
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I think an EGC Mobile Wallet that has the option and feature to stake is interesting, however not essential. I'd use it in a very limited way.

...Personally, I don't really want a computationally-heavy mobile wallet slowing my CELL phone down or using up excessive battery.

David

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November 07, 2016, 12:13:09 AM
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No ... Staking is something u do in at your bank/node, like bank interest.

Mobile wallets are just that ... mobile cash.


Also staking requires good connections to the network, and some power to do it.
This is not something u need or want on your mobile unit.

Also, bringing your whole stash with you doesnt seem too wise.
You know... all eggs in one basket thing.

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November 07, 2016, 01:58:50 AM
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Also staking requires good connections to the network, and some power to do it.

    Consider the feasibility of staking from an Android wallet.

    The moment staking from an Android wallet becomes doable, would inevitably become the moment staking from an Android wallet becomes infeasible -- due to reasonable anticipated exponential growth in the PoS difficulty brought on by historically non-staking balances suddenly adopting an Android wallet to start staking.

    The inherent contradiction here becomes - yes we do want staking to protect the network - yes we do want the PoS difficulty to increase and for the blocks to become more full of transactions, leading to fewer reorganizations.  At the same, obtaining this result would undesirably make staking less attractive for an Android user who happens to only open the wallet once in a while here and there.

    However, if all the users ran their staking clients all of the time; we would have a good target PoS difficulty; maximizing transactions in blocks; fewer reorganizations and hence less data usage for an Android client in that they would have fewer blocks to receive and transmit with less overhead.

    The Android hardware "is there" these days, with regard to available memory and computational power.
    Some users want to stake on Android and they are stakeholders too, so their opinion is valuable.
    I do like how the community is sharing the warning about just carrying small balances on mobile devices.

    It seems like this portion of the thread is a good time to reiterate how important staking is for the overall health of the network and how everyone relies upon it now that the PoW phase has ended.

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November 07, 2016, 02:10:41 AM
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Some community members have expressed interest in staking EverGreenCoin on Android devices that are not mobile phones. Beyond that, many point of sales devices run on Android.

If I can provide Android users options, I would like to. Of course, users would be advised of pros and cons in effort to guide them to selecting the fitting wallet for their device and needs.

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November 07, 2016, 02:24:47 AM
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Some community members have expressed interest in staking EverGreenCoin on Android devices that are not mobile phones. Beyond that, many point of sales devices run on Android.

    Good point, I hadn't really considered how prolific Android emergence has become beyond the mobile phone...

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November 07, 2016, 12:03:20 PM
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I dont think this is something u want on a device running on batteries... wired power is another story, as they are most likely permanently on and connected.

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November 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
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I dont think this is something u want on a device running on batteries... wired power is another story, as they are most likely permanently on and connected.

I can see people wanting to stake it on an old phone plugged in as it uses way less power than a conventional PC or laptop. I'm also wondering how much power is required to stake, if its just a token amount running in a background process, maybe it wont have much of an impact on battery life.

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November 07, 2016, 01:39:51 PM
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A staking Android wallet is not so important, but I could use it well to stake with my Android TV stick (10W) 24/7 with the use of 2 solar power packs.
Staking on a mobile device doesn't make any sense imo.
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November 07, 2016, 01:45:56 PM
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I dont think this is something u want on a device running on batteries... wired power is another story, as they are most likely permanently on and connected.

I can see people wanting to stake it on an old phone plugged in as it uses way less power than a conventional PC or laptop. I'm also wondering how much power is required to stake, if its just a token amount running in a background process, maybe it wont have much of an impact on battery life.

Looking at the wallet daemon on my CHIP it's not using much cpu at a time, however it's continuously running (and presumably as part of staking would need to so that it can keep up with the block chain). Keeping the cpu and data connections active will be something that impacts battery life (being able to suspend the data connections and CPU is the best way of saving battery power).

That said, for people that want a low power staking setup the planned hardware for the Solar Staker would probably fit their needs just as well as an always powered android device (My test setup is currently running at about 2W).
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November 08, 2016, 08:21:09 AM
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my wllet is offline plz provide me nodes

You do not need nodes. The 7 seednodes are hardcoded into the wallet, discovering peers via the seednodes is best. Are you running version 1.3?


i am using this version evergreencoin-qt-win-v1.3.0.0

i need because my wallet in syncing mode since 3.10.2016
it stucked on block 653741

and 0 avtive conection

Nodes is not your problem. It is more probable you need to resync your wallet.

Follow these steps:

1, Close your EverGreenCoin wallet.
2, Navigate to %appdata%/EverGreenCoin within Windows Explorer. (otherwise stated, C:\Users\<Windows User>\AppData\Roaming\EverGreenCoin)
3, Delete everything in that folder except your wallet.dat file.
4 (optional), follow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378653.msg15797264#msg15797264 to load a snapshot. This might be faster than snycing over the network.
5, Launch the wallet.

thanks sir



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November 08, 2016, 08:31:25 AM
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Nodes is not your problem. It is more probable you need to resync your wallet.

Follow these steps:

1, Close your EverGreenCoin wallet.
2, Navigate to %appdata%/EverGreenCoin within Windows Explorer. (otherwise stated, C:\Users\<Windows User>\AppData\Roaming\EverGreenCoin)
3, Delete everything in that folder except your wallet.dat file.
4 (optional), follow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1378653.msg15797264#msg15797264 to load a snapshot. This might be faster than snycing over the network.
5, Launch the wallet.

thanks sir


WALLET stuck again at block 724663 what to do now?

There seems to be a bit of disruption in the network although it is recovering. If you still have no connections the steps that might be worth trying are:
  • restarting the wallet (and maybe your pc)
  • stop the wallet, remove the peers.dat file and then re-start it.
  • remove the whole block chain (as described above) and re-sync

It would be worth waiting a while between each of  those options (maybe an hour to see if they work). As long as you get a few connections you should start syncing to the network.
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November 08, 2016, 08:50:29 AM
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Hello,

    Today, when this happened; after doing a bit of checking on block hashes and such - eventually I restarted evergreencoind with a few additional arguments.

    -checklevel=6 -checkblocks=0 -rescan

    The above may be overkill but is comprehensive.
    See the evergreencoind --help output for full descriptions of those arguments before employing them.

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