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December 01, 2015, 12:18:54 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8
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December 01, 2015, 12:31:06 PM
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This transaction spends a confirmed input: https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
However, this transaction spends a unconfirmed input from the unconfirmed change: https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8

Given that your inputs are of high value, it should have relatively high priority. The first transaction would confirm within a day or two but the second transaction would have some problems. You have three choice.
1) If you control the address 12rQfbGEBqC4UXAMdqsZ24a7ZjCRj9nZpi, you can broadcast another transaction using this output with a very high fee. Doing so would give the miners using CPFP patch a incentive to mine the entire chain of transaction for you and thus collecting all the fees, including the one with a very high one. The biggest mining pool using CPFP is Eligius which mines roughly 6 blocks per day.
2) You would need to wait for a few days for the network to forget your transaction and you can make another one. The transaction is likely to be confirming before that though.
3) You can contact a miner for them to include it for you with a commission.

#1 would probably be the most viable method. I haven't seen anyone doing 3 before unless it is very very urgent.

Your first transaction with no fee has a priority of roughly 18,678,541.79 right now. It will increase with every confirmation.














 

 

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December 01, 2015, 01:39:57 PM
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I don't control that paricular address. Guess I'll just have to wait it out, waiting for it to either goes through or timeout.
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December 01, 2015, 01:49:20 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8

It depends on the miners if they want to accept this transaction..
However Sometimes Bigger transactions Get confirmed without fees..
They can get confirmed without fees if
1) Total Output of the tx is more than 0.01
2) The size of the tx is more than 1000Bytes..

Your tx has size lower so there is less chance that it would confirm..

For reference check my tx..

https://blockchain.info/tx/4f3d1af1e69fb767cf4e5def50d7a2c445ec9075be23407862465636d19c4014

This tx i sent without any fees but it got confirmed in 12 Hours because the conditions according to Blockchain faqs were fulfilled..

However if ur tx doesnot confirms in 1-7 Days..
It will be automatically returned to your wallet and u wont loose anything..
Same thing happened with me many times.. No need to worry since no chance of loosing by this issue or mistake..
But just your waiting time would increase..
(If u use Blockchain or coinbase wallet )
Dont know about others..

Reference : Personal Experience !
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December 01, 2015, 02:06:39 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8
https://blockchain.info/tx/4f3d1af1e69fb767cf4e5def50d7a2c445ec9075be23407862465636d19c4014

This tx i sent without any fees but it got confirmed in 12 Hours because the conditions according to Blockchain faqs were fulfilled..
It was mostly because the network load was lower and there was a very large age compared to this transaction. The main factor was probably because of the lower transaction volumes and you waited around 18 hours. Priority is the most important factor. One of the criteria was not fulfilled, you had 0.009BTC in one of your output.
However if ur tx doesnot confirms in 1-7 Days..
It will be automatically returned to your wallet and u wont loose anything..
Same thing happened with me many times.. No need to worry since no chance of loosing by this issue or mistake..
But just your waiting time would increase..
(If u use Blockchain or coinbase wallet )
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The transaction would drop out of the mempool if it is not rebroadcasted by anyone or the client.














 

 

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December 01, 2015, 06:57:47 PM
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I think the only thing you can do is wait it out
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December 02, 2015, 03:06:46 AM
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Another two transaction with fees this time stuck. Furthermore, I have few more transaction after that that was confirmed. This is puzzling.

https://blockchain.info/address/18Y981mFo3ytGXMAxFakGiN3i74GcdSePC
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December 02, 2015, 03:13:44 AM
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Another two transaction with fees this time stuck. Furthermore, I have few more transaction after that that was confirmed. This is puzzling.

https://blockchain.info/address/18Y981mFo3ytGXMAxFakGiN3i74GcdSePC
Those two transactions are unconfirmed because they spend inputs from unconfirmed transactions. If those transactions would confirm, so would these two. The transactions you created after those two can confirm because the inputs they spent were confirmed and you had enough fee. It doesn't matter that the transaction came after some unconfirmed ones. That time does not matter at all and is completely irrelevant.

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December 02, 2015, 03:56:14 AM
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Another two transaction with fees this time stuck. Furthermore, I have few more transaction after that that was confirmed. This is puzzling.

https://blockchain.info/address/18Y981mFo3ytGXMAxFakGiN3i74GcdSePC
Some of your transaction spends the unconfirmed output. For that specific transaction to confirm, the parent or the input needs to confirm. This transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad has a priority of over 42,734,240. The higher the priority, the more chances it has. After this confirms, you need to wait for the other free transactions to confirm which can take a long time.

Currently, there are over 10k unconfirmed transactions from shorena node:














 

 

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December 06, 2015, 10:22:11 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8

i have done this a few times and each time the bitcoin just drop back into the sending wallet after a day or two .......
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December 06, 2015, 10:34:45 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8

i have done this a few times and each time the bitcoin just drop back into the sending wallet after a day or two .......

This thread should be closed as well but the transaction seems that were not confirmed so the money were sent back to the sender.


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December 06, 2015, 10:37:41 PM
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I have these two transaction which I forgot to include fees as was fiddling with the Blockchain wallet. Please advise should I just wait it out or what else can be done to hasten it?

https://blockchain.info/tx/8cca6eabd38c06bb855b0d79f7567e073f06189ac401f2c9027801f5fe6d9bad
https://blockchain.info/tx/8f12a97a7bc5994c305f5c4091db1f41b40f126ab8ec4616dba53e25499a12d8

As far as I know, post-transaction, there is nothing you can do! You will have to wait a few hours for it to get confirmed instead! If you were sending it to a trustworthy person or to a service, you could always send it again and send the previous bitcoin back to your wallet! Other than that, there is nothing you can do

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December 10, 2015, 10:24:17 AM
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I think the only thing you can do is wait it out
But He can check the parent confirmation in done or not and If it isn't confirmed in three to four days, most clients will remove it from their unconfirmed transactions pool and he could try it again
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December 10, 2015, 09:12:46 PM
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same problem happen to me yesterday

used my blockchaininfo wallet and this was sent feeless

it created an unconfirmed back to my blockchain wallet I missed this

https://blockchain.info/tx/92a7cba0eac341534e79362b2d9c2dba42ee3479d69bd347c036f5c778186c6d

A minute later I sent this


https://blockchain.info/tx/3989f4a2d7cdbcd146e5b9df949c514fd5920e66e9486d4c18bf1681ab7ba3b7

from same wallet and did a fee but it wanted to use the money sent from the prior transaction so I now have two sends jammed up even though one paid a fee.


This is a real issue in that when all was started I had .202 of fully confirmed coin in my 1J blockchain addy.

the .05 sent feeless sent back 0.0101 to the 1J addy never should of done it.  should of only sent the .05 feeless and nothing else.

my fully confirm coin in the 1J addy became partially unconfirmed due to this.

Annoying  I consider it to be a program flaw that first account became partially not confirmed when it was fully confirmed.

Thank goodness this is only .2 coins.

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December 12, 2015, 10:32:36 AM
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I think the only thing you can do is wait it out
I think This guy get scammed by the sender Because Many people while sending BTC . They use to send without fee and Its shows like a we received the BTC. But they double the bitcoin and they use scam the people. Who is not aware of this.
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