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August 04, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
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Except for the fact that it never did recover from the Gox drama...

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August 04, 2016, 07:59:56 PM
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Except for the fact that it never did recover from the Gox drama...

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August 04, 2016, 08:11:14 PM
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August 04, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
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We never recover fully from hacks like this, because it leaves a mark on the many people who lose money and leave the community and then bad mouth Bitcoin to their friends and families. The

negative ripple effect of these hacks are much bigger than the few people who lost money in these hacks. A lot of these people turn against Bitcoin and even turn shill. We should fight hacks like this and

even reveal the identity of the people behind these hacks, when they use mixing services. The authorities should not have to subpoena these services for the information, we should give it up

voluntarily. { If Bitcoin is used for crime, people must report it and work with the authorities to catch these criminals. }

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August 04, 2016, 09:08:13 PM
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Except for the fact that it never did recover from the Gox drama...
how it did not recover if the price went up a lot to 1200 dollars after some time? i think it will recover really fast and we will see new heights once again

 
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August 04, 2016, 10:15:41 PM
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We never recover fully from hacks like this, because it leaves a mark on the many people who lose money and leave the community and then bad mouth Bitcoin to their friends and families. The

negative ripple effect of these hacks are much bigger than the few people who lost money in these hacks. A lot of these people turn against Bitcoin and even turn shill. We should fight hacks like this and


bitcoin is still tiny and if it really wants to become something then a handful of ex bitfinex traders telling their drinking buddies that it's a bad idea is 100% irrelevant. overall this ain't gonna change how the masses feel about it because they feel nothing at all. it's another black mark of many and they all need to be left behind. it's up to a generation of better infrastructure to do that.
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August 04, 2016, 10:44:33 PM
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Proudhon back! thats a bullish indicator
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August 04, 2016, 11:51:13 PM
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curious point, op;
i'm under the impression that the mtgox incident was much more catastrophic than bfx hack, in terms of size & market impact; as in waaay more catastrophic;
i wasn't around when it happened & i might be totally wrong. (currently doing a little digging on what happened then.)
but is it fair to compare bfx hack with mtgox shutdown?!
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August 05, 2016, 12:53:08 AM
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We have recovered already and we are now going to the upward direction and price fall back was just temporary, I can conclude now that bitcoin has a stable market already as it can easily recover from any market crisis, and one thing I would like to congratulate those investors who have bought when the price drop hard as they are beginning to enjoy their profit now.
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August 05, 2016, 01:09:40 AM
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curious point, op;
i'm under the impression that the mtgox incident was much more catastrophic than bfx hack, in terms of size & market impact; as in waaay more catastrophic;
i wasn't around when it happened & i might be totally wrong. (currently doing a little digging on what happened then.)
but is it fair to compare bfx hack with mtgox shutdown?!

I get the impression that gox had a lot of historical users but it wasn't the market leader by that point. china and bitstamp had both surpassed it. the problem was that people were using it as a wallet and there were old coins on there too so the number of coins was a lot higher than bitfinex. it was a long time brewing and it wiped out a lot of the old guard.
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August 05, 2016, 01:26:45 AM
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curious point, op;
i'm under the impression that the mtgox incident was much more catastrophic than bfx hack, in terms of size & market impact; as in waaay more catastrophic;
i wasn't around when it happened & i might be totally wrong. (currently doing a little digging on what happened then.)
but is it fair to compare bfx hack with mtgox shutdown?!

I get the impression that gox had a lot of historical users but it wasn't the market leader by that point. china and bitstamp had both surpassed it. the problem was that people were using it as a wallet and there were old coins on there too so the number of coins was a lot higher than bitfinex. it was a long time brewing and it wiped out a lot of the old guard.

The Gox catastrophe was telegraphed a miles in advance. For months and months, account holders couldn't withdraw fiat, but could withdraw BTC. However, partly as a result of this, Gox generally traded at a $50-$60 premium to Stamp, which back then was the out and out market leader in terms of USD exchanges, and yeah, a huge amount of the BTC lost on Gox, was early adopter BTC. BTC bought in double or even single figures, but with losses priced in upper treble figures. Bitfinex on the otherhand, has grown enormously over the past 18 months or so, and obviously, Finex has a lot of 'new' money on it....or had a lot of new money on it.

In all honesty, I think this Finex theft will have more serious impacts on Bitcoin than MtGox. Back when MtGox happened, there was still a widespread belief that Bitcoin was destined for 4 figures. These days, Bitcoin needs a minimum price of $500 to make it worthwhile for the miners to have their farms running, powering the Bitcoin network. Going forward from here, even if BTC gets back up to mid $600s, I think it is very likely that Bitcoin will dip well below that $500 threshold. A whole bunch of BTC liquidity providers aren't going to want to play anymore. A whole bunch don't have the means to play anymore, and then there is the small matter of 120K BTC that will eventually find itself being fed to the market going forward. Going to be a testing time for Bitcoin imo.

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