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December 06, 2015, 04:44:23 AM
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topic, thanks for answering.


post with sig-campaigns are often really bad - although usually they are still just barely on topic so they dont get deleted.
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December 06, 2015, 04:48:36 AM
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topic, thanks for answering.



- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

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December 06, 2015, 04:52:44 AM
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topic, thanks for answering.



- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post.

there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign.

pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.
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December 06, 2015, 05:00:56 AM
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I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their  members if signature campaign will be banned here.
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December 06, 2015, 05:08:09 AM
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OP, I totally agree with you.  Most sig campaign posters here are not only low-content idiots, but they're morons on top of that.  I just joined the yobit campaign and did so only after much deliberation.  You know what I came up with?  Why should I not be earning for my posts while these non-English speaking mouth breathers get bitcoin for doing all the posting?  And I decided that I should get a piece of this.

Also, Yobit seems to be a decent exchange and I couldn't bring myself to shill for any of the casinos.

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December 06, 2015, 05:14:12 AM
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pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.
I agree with You all/Mostly accounts are of Youth here except those made after 2013 onward.
I also discourage Spamming but what to do , there are people of all kind and we have to be social.

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December 06, 2015, 05:15:48 AM
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At first I thought those signature campaign owners pay a fee to promote their site here through signature campaign, but I was wrong. This bring traffic to the site. Without those, I think BCT still can live by it's own but traffic will be less.

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December 06, 2015, 06:07:35 AM
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I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their  members if signature campaign will be banned here.

This is what I am thinking also. This forum would be a lot less active without all the paid to post members here. It is obvious that the forum does mind these guys so long as they keep it somewhat understandable. Seems like only the 3-4 word spammers get banned.
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December 06, 2015, 06:15:36 AM
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To be honest, not all campaigns are bad. Campaigns like Yobit have automated payouts with little restrictions and allow users to spam at those boards that are easy to spam. Even with 20 post, it is easy to create multi accounts. However, some campaigns do have stricter post quality restrictions. I have joined several of those which only allows high quality posters. Banning signature campaign as a whole would only bring in negative feedback from majority of the forum members who treats signature campaign as a bonus for posting on the forum.

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December 06, 2015, 06:36:26 AM
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Why not get paid for something you worked to achieve? I have spent 2 years here on and off to get to hero almost legendary, and if someone want to pay me for a small advertising spot why not. It doesn't compare to the time I have spent here Wink

Just for the record I had my sig made and uses my referral links Smiley

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December 06, 2015, 07:06:26 AM
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Why not get paid for something you worked to achieve? I have spent 2 years here on and off to get to hero almost legendary, and if someone want to pay me for a small advertising spot why not. It doesn't compare to the time I have spent here Wink

Just for the record I had my sig made and uses my referral links Smiley

If done right sig campaigns are great for all involved. The problem are the spammers who run lots of accounts and post useless things. I get paid a flat rate regardless of how much I post...
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December 06, 2015, 08:34:53 AM
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That is definitely true. Most people enrolled in a signature campaign, post the most bull shit posts ever. But the thing is, if we banned signature campaigns, I would say only around a quarter of the people on this forum would stay. People need motivation to post, and getting paid is definitely good motivation.
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December 06, 2015, 09:16:19 AM
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topic, thanks for answering.



- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post.

there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign.

pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.

it's more like 30 cents per post, as long as they increase the discussion they are fine, if they are simply off-topic or reiterating then action should be taken, funny thing is that i've spotted some trollers and spammer that do not carry signature, but no one talk about those users ever...

I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their  members if signature campaign will be banned here.

you're generous, i think it's more about 70% -80%

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December 06, 2015, 12:05:06 PM
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topic, thanks for answering.



- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post.

there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign.

pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.

it's more like 30 cents per post, as long as they increase the discussion they are fine, if they are simply off-topic or reiterating then action should be taken, funny thing is that i've spotted some trollers and spammer that do not carry signature, but no one talk about those users ever...

I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their  members if signature campaign will be banned here.

you're generous, i think it's more about 70% -80%



I doubt it, when did this forum reach maximum of people online, in 2013. There were no signature campaigns back there. If people come here just to join a signature campaign I'm fine with them leaving the forum but I'm pretty sure that 90% of people who joined sig campaigns were already participating in the forum without one.

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December 06, 2015, 12:15:36 PM
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topic, thanks for answering.



- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post.

there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign.

pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.

it's more like 30 cents per post, as long as they increase the discussion they are fine, if they are simply off-topic or reiterating then action should be taken, funny thing is that i've spotted some trollers and spammer that do not carry signature, but no one talk about those users ever...

I believe this forum will lose maybe half of their  members if signature campaign will be banned here.

you're generous, i think it's more about 70% -80%



I doubt it, when did this forum reach maximum of people online, in 2013. There were no signature campaigns back there. If people come here just to join a signature campaign I'm fine with them leaving the forum but I'm pretty sure that 90% of people who joined sig campaigns were already participating in the forum without one.

2013 was the year of hyperdeflation.

Same thing next year, I guess we will see 10x more pepople
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December 06, 2015, 03:15:55 PM
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They're probably not banned for a few reasons. One, it would be hard to get rid of them without entirely removing signatures, personal texts and also avatars (people will still continue to rent them as they are currently doing). Two, sig campaigns will obviously bring in a lot of traffic to this site, and three, they do contribute to bitcoin adoption/ecosystem and are a great way to get people invovled in bitcoin and get them their first coins and all for free or without investment. However, I don't think all these reasons should come at the overal expense of the forum being shat all over and that's why I've been pushing for a few changes for a while that I think will help the forum greatly but so far nothing really.

- we want the flow of bitcoin , we want more and more people to try bitcoin , more new people means the better future for bitcoin , Many people here are not buying bitcoins but want to try it we this forum provides a mechanism to them to get some fractions so that they can try it for free and believe that yes bitcoin is NextGen .
-Sites are Advertising here and paying to their advertisers for advertising them , This forum is getting Traffic of unique IPs , and we want all this as we are bitcoin enthusiast.

all fine with me except the stuff with spamming bullshit for 1-10 cent per spam post.

there are a lot more possibilities to aquire btc without fiat then a sig-campaign.

pretty sure most of the ppl doin this are kids or have no jobs and are sitting the whole day at home.

Signature Campaigns are by far the easist way to earn btc and with a high-ranking account you can get much more than 1-10 cents. You can get close to a dollar per post on the fixed rate deals, but sadly it is mostly the lower-ranked users on the lower-rate campaigns that are getting a few cents that cause the most spam. As for the type of people on signature campaigns I'm sure the spectrum goes from people in developing nations who the money makes quite a difference to their lives to peope with full time jobs who just see it as a great way to earn a bit of extra bitcoins for something they would be doing anyway to people who probably have an army of accounts and post-full time. Personally, I don't care which group you fall into as long as you're not posting shit. I think we can all agree that getting bitcoins for free is a good thing but we really should be putting more effort into making sure low-quality posters aren't going to be getting paid and if they're not then the quality of posts will naturally increase but without putting some pressure on the campaign runners nothing is likely to change without mods just banning hundreds of people a month which isn't ideal and is very time consuming for us and that's why the workload should be put on the campaign managers with consequences if they don't do their job properly.

To be honest, not all campaigns are bad. Campaigns like Yobit have automated payouts with little restrictions and allow users to spam at those boards that are easy to spam. Even with 20 post, it is easy to create multi accounts. However, some campaigns do have stricter post quality restrictions. I have joined several of those which only allows high quality posters. Banning signature campaign as a whole would only bring in negative feedback from majority of the forum members who treats signature campaign as a bonus for posting on the forum.

I will be taking over the Yobit campaign soon and will be kicking off all the shitposters after a warning. If all campaigns had someone who was actually keeping an eye on them then the spam would clean itself up, but they don't. If all campaigns don't follow the same standard then it's pretty pointless really as I know for a fact anyone I kick off Yobit is just going to go to the next available campaign that will have them which is currently Secondstrade (and they do next to zero about quality control).

Why not get paid for something you worked to achieve? I have spent 2 years here on and off to get to hero almost legendary, and if someone want to pay me for a small advertising spot why not. It doesn't compare to the time I have spent here Wink

Just for the record I had my sig made and uses my referral links Smiley

If done right sig campaigns are great for all involved. The problem are the spammers who run lots of accounts and post useless things. I get paid a flat rate regardless of how much I post...

I've always said signature campaigns could actually improve the post quality on the forums but only if Campaign Managers only accept and pay for quality posts. Personally, I think we need to put severe pressure on the campaign managers to actually do their job and if they don't either them or their campaigns should be banned from the forum.

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December 06, 2015, 10:23:34 PM
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I agree that there are posters who's purpose is only to chase their payment targets. I find this not even to be a problem as long as their posts are at least good of quality and related to the thread or the posters quoted text.

If they are creating empty/nonsense posts to reach their goal, then the signature campaign operator should kick these people. It's that simple. What comes to my attention is that there are a lot of these people posting in the lending section and the market place. There is also a lot sales thread crashing/hijacking by noobs who are pretending they are interested in your product. They ask nonsense questions while everything is self explanatory or the OP has all the information already described.

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December 06, 2015, 11:27:19 PM
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Shitty posters that repeatedly make 2-3 word posts get banned whether they're in a signature campaign or not. The mods do their job well, OP you don't really need to concern yourself with it.

To be honest most signature campaign managers boot low quality posters off their campaign any way.

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December 06, 2015, 11:30:40 PM
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Bwahaha, I find it pretty ironic that everyone except the OP here has a paid sig(Blazed's doesn't matter though, as he gets paid 0.5 BTC per month, regardless of posts made)
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December 07, 2015, 12:05:58 AM
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Bwahaha, I find it pretty ironic that everyone except the OP here has a paid sig(Blazed's doesn't matter though, as he gets paid 0.5 BTC per month, regardless of posts made)

Some one not wearing a paid signature doesn't mean he or she is not participating in a signature campaign. These people have mostly alt accounts enrolled in signature campaigns Wink 

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