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December 08, 2015, 12:48:00 PM
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I don't like to sign up under any referral links because one cannot profit by being your referral and I'd rather self referral because one can profit more through self referral. To be honest, I do this on some website. Smiley

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December 08, 2015, 12:58:27 PM
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I don't know why they ignorant and stubborn I guess with gambling they become the true self.
That they are like that.
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December 08, 2015, 12:59:32 PM
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I don't like to sign up under any referral links because one cannot profit by being your referral and I'd rather self referral because one can profit more through self referral. To be honest, I do this on some website. Smiley
I do the same as you do. instead of getting 50% from being someone else's referral i be my own referral and get 100%. yahoo you can get lot of referrals if you host some contest like person who bet x amount will get x prize?
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December 08, 2015, 03:09:03 PM
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I don't like to sign up under any referral links because one cannot profit by being your referral and I'd rather self referral because one can profit more through self referral. To be honest, I do this on some website. Smiley
I do the same as you do. instead of getting 50% from being someone else's referral i be my own referral and get 100%. yahoo you can get lot of referrals if you host some contest like person who bet x amount will get x prize?

I do the same thing on some places. And I`m already a member almost everywhere. How I can register now under someones referall.
I also think that lot of people wish to have their own referrals. I was thinking how to have it also, even to suggest some bonus from me in beggining ( not just sharing their profit). I try with few people I know on fb but nothing. So like many others I believe, I play also for myelf where it is possible.

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December 08, 2015, 04:56:29 PM
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I still don't understand why players are wagering on a dice site with HE of 1% when there are sites offering 0.1% HE  Huh the game is the same right?

It is because once someone loves the site then he will keep coming back to play. Only a few people understand about HE , provably fair and the other. The rest just love the site, that is why PD got lot more player since they started way back even there are lot of sites that offer less HE now

That can be the reason but when they are losing too much there, will they ever comeback again? What I know primedice is a oldest site that have a really trustworthy thats why most people are going there and most of them already stick around there. Some people are not even want to try the new site because they scare that will be some error to the script or something bad will happened. This is what I thought so far
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December 08, 2015, 05:01:29 PM
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Highrollers are not interested in affiliate cuts generally because the amounts they get back seem to be significantly smaller to them and not worth the effort.

If a highroller wagers 1000BTC on a dice site, he would likely win a lot or lose a lot.
If he does take the time to sign up using the link you give, he would be gaining 1000BTC * 1% * 10% * 50% = 0.5BTC.

Suppose he loses all his bankroll what is he going to do with 0.5BTC?
Suppose he wins a few hundred bitcoins, does it actually make a difference?


This is why highrollers tend to stick to 1% flat edge sites and does not leave to other sites like say Betterbets (which has a rakeback system) or Rollin (which has a levelling system and weekly wagered prizes). So they tend to stick with the site they are comfortable with which is why Primedice remains the market leader by large.


Another way of understanding it is, let us divide people into two, one who actually prefers a 0.7% house edge over 1% etc. and the one who is not. Highrollers beyond doubt falls into the latter category. The former consists of people ideally wouldn't bet in the first place because it is negative EV.

tl;dr Highrollers are generally insensitive to variations in (effective) house edge (to a level).


thats what I think.

your answer is totally correct cause whales don't care and they afraid to meet scammers, they will feel unhappy if their uplines won't pay them, it is one reason imo.

the other reason i cam up with is that nobody or a few guy is willing to be referrals cause they don't wanna let other people get free money, like me, i never wanna anyone makes money from my losses, i would feel my uplines wanna me lose money, feel weird.
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December 08, 2015, 05:15:51 PM
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Only a few people understand about HE , provably fair and the other. The rest just love the site, that is why PD got lot more player since they started way back even there are lot of sites that offer less HE now

Not necessarily. Almost all the highrollers I ever got a chance to talk to know well about house edge, provably fair. Some are also deep into Bitcoin and its technical stuff. (I agree with the rest)


A typical highroller (not everyone of course. Only meaning many highrollers who repeatedly plays over significant a period of time) values trustworthiness, simplicity much more than a lower house edge. But they do see that the house edge is reasonable and they stick to what they are comfortable with and come back to where they had no issues since there have been scams and rogue sites around for years.

They believe luck is far more significant. They could profit much much more than what they would make from referral systems if the luck is on their side. (you can see that if someone gives weight to math etc. more than luck, he wouldn't play in the first place)
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December 08, 2015, 05:56:58 PM
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You guys are probably seeing this title and thinking im talking about spamming referrals but in fact i am not. I personally have offered 50/50 affiliate/referral cuts a couple times and havent had many ppl take me up on the offer and im having a hard time understanding why? Its surely not a trust issue on whether i will pay you or not cause lets face it, im pretty trusted on this forum.

If youre already gonna be playing dice anyways, why wouldnt you want to make some extra money? I just dont get it. Its like some of you people are saying i dont want any free money? Why the hell not? You are gambling to make money, why would you not want to make even more from the bets youre already placing?

Whales puzzle me even more cause they have the best shot at large money. Im willing to make better deals for whales if anyone take me up on a split. Ok im offering again PM me if you want to be on my referral list. I will give you my link. TAKE THE FREE MONEY GUYS

"Quite new on the referall system" (ate least in casinos, I usually only use them for sports betting), so what are you offering? You give me 50% of what you will get from the referall system?
Will you do that forever, and on what sites?

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