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December 07, 2015, 09:55:02 PM
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New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)

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December 07, 2015, 09:57:00 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.msg6311902#msg6311902
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December 07, 2015, 09:57:49 PM
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Hello,

New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)


The best collateral is altcoins which are known and sell wuickly, like DOGEcoin and Litecoin.
Also bitcointalk accounts have value, but don't over estimate it.
Don't accept giftcards because they sell at 30-50% of the value or they won't sell if the loan is defaulted.

Good luck!

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December 07, 2015, 09:58:28 PM
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acceptable collateral when loaning " full members" is usually just their word for it. a man is nothing without his word
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December 07, 2015, 10:12:04 PM
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Alright cool Ill take a look.

Thanks for the responses.
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December 08, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
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acceptable collateral when loaning " full members" is usually just their word for it. a man is nothing without his word

A full member account is just worth around 0.05-0.08. The price dropped since the bitcoin price has risen.
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December 08, 2015, 10:03:58 AM
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Hello,

New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)



collateral for lending out bitcoins are some told of altcoins, but be carefull that they are saleable altcoins because he defults it and when you go for sale in market then their should be seller for that. you can have bitcointalk account as collateral but for that you should be knowing some process like get signed message from the address mentioned in that bitcointalk account which he/she is going to give you in collateral if you have any doubt you can use escrow service in this process so that in future no one can come and scam you.
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December 08, 2015, 09:15:46 PM
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It is what collateral is. A stablely priced good that can be resold in the case of a scam, so the lender can make back the money he/she lost. It's that simple. You really don't have to worry. Look at other threads, and see what people have offered as collateral and see if they've been denied.

Some valid forms of collateral are:
 - Bitcointalk accounts; provided there is a signed message
 - Stable altcoins
 - Anything that is easy to sell, and has a consistent value.
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December 08, 2015, 10:08:21 PM
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Hello,

New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)


The best collateral is altcoins which are known and sell wuickly, like DOGEcoin and Litecoin.
Also bitcointalk accounts have value, but don't over estimate it.
Don't accept giftcards because they sell at 30-50% of the value or they won't sell if the loan is defaulted.

Good luck!

I would go for that too. Altcoins with a large daily volume. Accounts, be it BCT or from other sites is just too much of a hassle. People can retrieve it or the account is worth nothing, so you can't sell it.

Lending money with money as collateral.
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December 09, 2015, 07:40:10 AM
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aside from the standard account and altcoin, also hashpower can be used has collateral, maybe hash o legit cloud site like hashnest

it's very easy to give it and return it
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December 09, 2015, 09:03:25 AM
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It is what collateral is. A stablely priced good that can be resold in the case of a scam, so the lender can make back the money he/she lost. It's that simple. You really don't have to worry. Look at other threads, and see what people have offered as collateral and see if they've been denied.

Some valid forms of collateral are:
 - Bitcointalk accounts; provided there is a signed message
 - Stable altcoins
 - Anything that is easy to sell, and has a consistent value.


Bitcointalk account has not consistent value. The price fluctuate a lot. The account price will go down when the bitcoin price goes up.
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December 09, 2015, 04:21:53 PM
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In fact - your account ( from full member and up ) or altcoins can be as valid collateral  Wink In some cases you can offer another type of collateral - like hashing power etc.  Wink
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December 09, 2015, 04:24:25 PM
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Hello,

New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)



Hello and welcome to the forum. Make sure that you take at least 115%-120% of a good quality collateral if you decide to give loans. What I mean by quality is that you need to make sure that this collateral can be easily liquidated since the level of scams on this forum is huge!

Good luck!
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December 10, 2015, 11:11:40 AM
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120% is on the low side these days. I would aim for at least 130% and offcourse be very carefull with accounts. Be it BCT, paypal or whatever. Accounts can be hacked etc.
Accept solid collateral and check the person whom you are lending too.

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December 10, 2015, 10:27:09 PM
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I would go with some solid value items. Like altcoins (litecon, dogecoin, stellar etc.). Some vouchers from amazon, dropbox etc. are also very welcome for me.

But make sure to test their legality by customer service.
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December 11, 2015, 01:05:09 AM
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The two main popular collaterals on this forum are Bitcointalk accounts, and stable altcoins. These are so because they are easily converted to bitcoin/fiat. Some people take wierd things, like physical collateral, or other accounts, such as Steam accounts.

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January 11, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
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The two main popular collaterals on this forum are Bitcointalk accounts, and stable altcoins. These are so because they are easily converted to bitcoin/fiat. Some people take wierd things, like physical collateral, or other accounts, such as Steam accounts.

As the bitcoin price rise, the value of forum account has reduced a lot. So with the forum account as collateral, we can borrow much less now.
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January 11, 2016, 05:12:06 PM
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offcourse be very carefull with accounts. Be it BCT, paypal or whatever. Accounts can be hacked etc.

I would never accept any kind of account, no matter what they say. You can do wonders nowadays by ringing up support and claiming your account was hacked, if it's a large website's account. BitcoinTalk accounts can be especially shady for obvious reasons.
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January 11, 2016, 07:44:17 PM
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offcourse be very carefull with accounts. Be it BCT, paypal or whatever. Accounts can be hacked etc.

I would never accept any kind of account, no matter what they say. You can do wonders nowadays by ringing up support and claiming your account was hacked, if it's a large website's account. BitcoinTalk accounts can be especially shady for obvious reasons.

If the user signed a message and use the account as collateral and default on the loan, he cannot claim the account back.
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January 11, 2016, 08:08:54 PM
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Scale also matters. If you wanted thousands of dollars worth of BTC then I would want to hold your car title. Tens of thousands might require the deed to your house. If it were $10, then a netflix account might do. And for what it's worth there aren't enough alt-coins in the world to get me to part with a BTC. 

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February 06, 2016, 03:17:23 PM
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Scale also matters. If you wanted thousands of dollars worth of BTC then I would want to hold your car title. Tens of thousands might require the deed to your house. If it were $10, then a netflix account might do. And for what it's worth there aren't enough alt-coins in the world to get me to part with a BTC. 

Ethereum has great future. It has strong development and is a platform for many things. It could rival bitcoin in the future.
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February 06, 2016, 07:41:20 PM
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Just like everyone says, I might agree that altcoins will be the best collateral to ask if you are planning to lend here as it was easy to liquidate if every the borrower defaults. Bitcointalk accounts were also considered coz of the demand of it. On the other hand domains are also accepted as a collateral. I also some lender that accept bitgold , if you are into it then you might also consider it.
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February 06, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
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Bct accounts are shitty collateral and lead to account sales which is also shitty.  And people with high-ranking accounts often don't want to use them as collateral. So it just doesn't work out well at all.

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February 06, 2016, 11:23:44 PM
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Bct accounts are shitty collateral and lead to account sales which is also shitty.  And people with high-ranking accounts often don't want to use them as collateral. So it just doesn't work out well at all.

When the bitcointalk account can be used a collateral, it gives its value. This will increase the value of the forum as a whole.
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February 09, 2016, 03:52:24 PM
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Only altcoins, but not all. Only most popular ones can be acceptable collateral.  Wink
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February 12, 2016, 11:23:35 AM
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Only altcoins, but not all. Only most popular ones can be acceptable collateral.  Wink

Does it mean the Escrow has to have wallets for several coins. It is not very convenient. It need quite a large computer.
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February 12, 2016, 05:18:57 PM
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Hello,

New user to the site, and have traded on other exchanges. Curious to know what are acceptable forms of collateral for lending out bitcoins. (I would lend the bitcoins)


you must be collect some trust,try to trade small amount of bitcoin with people,and make sure you have to consistence trade with people,and your trust will raise.
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February 13, 2016, 05:41:33 AM
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Any long term investment agreement or gold investments can be considered as collateral. If it does't seems to be good, can go for automobile registration paper.
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February 13, 2016, 06:42:44 AM
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Only altcoins, but not all. Only most popular ones can be acceptable collateral.  Wink

Does it mean the Escrow has to have wallets for several coins. It is not very convenient. It need quite a large computer.

some escrows like many of other cryptocurrency users support other altcoins too. for example litecoin is a popular one which many of us use, so they have a litecoin wallet at hand in the first place.

besides there is always other ways to create a crypto address and not have a full node wallet running. in the case of litecoin there is a litecoin Electrum version available which is similar to bitcoin electrum (an SPV wallet).

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