[BUILD] CoinBuilder ICO Exposed | **** BUYER BEWARE ****

[iGotSpots]

=== TO MAKE THINGS CLEAR===

Whatever that newbie account was talking about, me having a sold account, is plain bullshit.
Look at the thread he links to. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1111201.msg11805223#msg11805223

It talks about a HERO account with 2844 posts on July 6, 2015.

Now look at my profile, today. That's right. 2704 posts.

This has nothing to do with my account!! I dont even have that amount of posts

Now stop the bullshit on my topic or GTFO. It clearly proofs some of you are to stupid to breath.
It takes 30seconds to read something and compare that information with the reality.

Exit fud now!

Six months is plenty of time for hero to legendary. It's easy to lower post count by deleting posts, which you seem to have done in the link below. Care to address this post of yours? Deleting mistakes don't delete quotes that happen before you notice  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1111201.msg11805249#msg11805249

ok, I have very old addresses that I still use, so ok, I will sign an address more than 3 months old.

just serious bidders and buyers. will provide to the winning bid all the info.  

I'm going to assume that the OP goofed and this is the account for sale.

I do not believe Yuriy from c-cex was aware of this when he posted the ICO. I believe he was also deceived and lied to, as he was seeking the truth just as hard as I was today

So before we got into a chat on Skype, you mentioned that these posts were about selling yet another account, which means in addition to your main 'alt' account, you happened to have two Heros just chillin. I'm sure they were not bought accounts to put something like a big gambling signature in or anything. Penny chasing at its finest, really.. So let's cut to Skype now  

[1:33:18 PM] *** C-CEX.com added iGotSpots, Tarmi bitcoin ***
[1:33:19 PM] C-CEX.com: Hi here
[1:33:30 PM] C-CEX.com: Let's make sure everything is all right
[1:33:39 PM] C-CEX.com: And don't kill this ICO
[1:33:44 PM] C-CEX.com: Or stop it if it is all scam
[1:33:58 PM] iGotSpots: What name were you trying to sell? If you can PM me from, or prove you had a second name that fits those numbers I will delete my post
[1:35:01 PM] C-CEX.com: I don't know a reason of iGotSpot's hate But if he is fighting for truth - I just want to make sure he is right or not.
[1:35:12 PM] C-CEX.com: I think he will bring apologies if he is wrong. He is good person.
[1:35:24 PM] iGotSpots: It's not hate, i just don't like bullshit
[1:35:33 PM] C-CEX.com: ok ok
[1:35:34 PM] iGotSpots: yes, if i am wrong i will delete post and say i am satisfied
[1:35:51 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: It's hate.
[1:35:57 PM] C-CEX.com: lol
[1:35:57 PM] iGotSpots: dude
[1:36:00 PM] iGotSpots: yuriy knows how i am
[1:36:05 PM] iGotSpots: i hate like 3 people
[1:36:07 PM] iGotSpots: you are not one of them
[1:36:17 PM] C-CEX.com: wait, let's keep conversation in reasonable manner
[1:36:26 PM] C-CEX.com: no abuses, just facts
[1:36:31 PM] iGotSpots: i am taking your pm as true
[1:36:36 PM] iGotSpots: just tell me the other name you tried selling
[1:36:49 PM] iGotSpots: prove it was yours and im good
[1:37:12 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Look, my secondary account has been sold using trusted escrow in all confidentiality. So i'm not able to tell you what account is was, nor can i send you any PM from that account.
[1:37:27 PM] iGotSpots: you have to see how bad this all looks..
[1:37:32 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Don't seek for proof about my secondary account, seek for proof for this account
[1:37:46 PM] iGotSpots: i am, thats why i posted a quote you wrote on that name
[1:37:49 PM] iGotSpots: and then deleted
[1:37:52 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Like i told you in PM, find any BTC address i posted, i'll sign you a messafe
[1:38:09 PM] iGotSpots: ok hold on
[1:38:25 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Now i truly get the reason why coin devs use new accounts for creating a new coin
[1:38:46 PM] iGotSpots: well dont try selling accounts and it wont matter
[1:38:50 PM] iGotSpots: nobody ever thinks im not me
[1:39:00 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: You really are as bad as people make you look.
[1:39:00 PM] iGotSpots: listen
[1:39:00 PM] iGotSpots: im not mad at you or anything
[1:39:04 PM] iGotSpots: i actually like your coin
[1:39:07 PM] iGotSpots: ask yuriy, i said it earlier
[1:39:16 PM] iGotSpots: calm down lol
[1:39:23 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Look at my topic
[1:39:30 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: people already leaving because YOU post on it!
[1:39:32 PM] iGotSpots: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg1893513#msg1893513
[1:39:39 PM] iGotSpots: yes and if i post i was wrong it will mean a lot more
[1:39:44 PM] iGotSpots: i will even go in c-cex and say it
[1:40:04 PM] iGotSpots: theres one of your first posts
[1:40:31 PM] iGotSpots: wait that might not be yours actually
[1:40:53 PM] iGotSpots: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215749.msg2276516#msg2276516
[1:40:55 PM] iGotSpots: theres one
[1:41:01 PM] iGotSpots: 1EZYXWqYKFLHh5MPNK3gC2QC5Gyg6xUGif
[1:42:43 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: The first one i can use to sign a message if i'm able to export my private keys to a wallet, no problem.
[1:42:56 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Now, i wont sign YOU a message. I'll sign one for this exchange
[1:43:09 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Do what you feel you need to do
[1:43:19 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: i'm removing your posts and leaving this conversation.
[1:43:20 PM] iGotSpots: you can be as mad at me as you want i dont care, im trying to protect the 'investors'
[1:43:26 PM] iGotSpots: dude
[1:43:30 PM] iGotSpots: calm yourself
[1:43:34 PM] iGotSpots: we are both on your side..
[1:43:58 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: No we're not.
[1:44:12 PM] C-CEX.com: There is easier way. Do you controll that address?
[1:44:19 PM] iGotSpots: we are trying really hard to help you here..
[1:44:19 PM] C-CEX.com: I can send some dust and you just send me it back ok?
[1:44:22 PM] C-CEX.com: https://blockchain.info/address/1EZYXWqYKFLHh5MPNK3gC2QC5Gyg6xUGif
[1:44:24 PM] C-CEX.com: now it's 0 balance
[1:45:53 PM] iGotSpots: if you start deleting posts you know im going to make a thread with this whole log..
[1:46:04 PM  iGotSpots: its best to settle it here and let me post apology if im wrong
[1:46:36 PM] iGotSpots: i dont know why you think im against you
[1:46:38 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Do whatever you like spots. Your extortion methods are having no influence over me.
[1:46:40 PM] iGotSpots: i like your idea..
[1:46:44 PM] iGotSpots: extortion what are you talking about
[1:46:47 PM] iGotSpots: i dont want anything from you lol
[1:46:51 PM] C-CEX.com: Let's go back to reasonable speaking
[1:46:54 PM] iGotSpots: dude, calm down
[1:46:55 PM] C-CEX.com: Just facts please
[1:47:10 PM] C-CEX.com: So what about that address?
[1:47:10 PM] iGotSpots: you wanted me to give you a btc address to sign, i did, now youre mad?
[1:47:22 PM  iGotSpots: just end this now and sign it or do the dust send with c-cex
[1:48:12 PM] C-CEX.com: As I understand - that address posted long time ago by that account and it will proove it was not sold right?
[1:48:26 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Why on earth do i need to explain myself to one of crypto's biggest scam artists?! What's the deal here?
[1:48:30 PM] iGotSpots: yes that was one of his first posts
[1:48:33 PM] iGotSpots: on this account
[1:48:50 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Yes, but i'll confirm when back at home if i have the address in my blockchain or electrum account
[1:49:05 PM] C-CEX.com: Ok. Let's wait for it. Thank you very much.
[1:51:13 PM] C-CEX.com: What about deleting that message and not posting anything untill we find out?
[1:51:46 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: I'm fine with his message
[1:51:52 PM] iGotSpots: it wont matter its already quoted
[1:51:58 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: He's just trying to find out what account has been sold
[1:52:03 PM] iGotSpots: yes
[1:52:06 PM] iGotSpots: listen tarmi
[1:52:08 PM] iGotSpots: for real dude
[1:52:14 PM] iGotSpots: i dont give a shit if its sold or not
[1:52:23 PM] iGotSpots: i really dont care, i assume everyone i talk to is a fake
[1:52:35 PM] iGotSpots: and i especially dont want to hurt yuriys business
[1:53:06 PM] C-CEX.com: I'm not fake !!!
[1:53:15 PM] C-CEX.com: I'm Yuriy!
[1:53:24 PM] iGotSpots: yes i know but if you host ico's for sold accounts and fake names you know what people say
[1:53:28 PM] iGotSpots: thats all we want to avoid really
[1:53:34 PM] C-CEX.com: yes - that's bad
[1:53:37 PM] C-CEX.com: so let's find out
[1:53:50 PM] iGotSpots: we just want people to be who they say they are, thats all, no drama is needed
[1:54:05 PM] iGotSpots: whatever you are mad at me for in the past doesnt matter, work on this first then hate me later
[1:55:04 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: Sure, i'll just start a new account and relaunch the thread, problem solved. And then you wonder why so many people get scammed around. Dev's should almost be affraid to use their real accounts
[1:55:27 PM] iGotSpots: you are taking this the total wrong way
[1:55:41 PM] iGotSpots: i want you to be who you say you are, legendary coins are good..
[1:55:54 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: It has your name on it, it's over now.
[1:56:01 PM] iGotSpots: what are you talking about
[1:56:06 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: You + Keyzer in one thread
[1:56:11 PM] iGotSpots: stop being evasive
[1:56:14 PM] iGotSpots: i dont even know who that is
[1:56:17 PM] iGotSpots: nor do i care
[1:56:36 PM] iGotSpots: you call me a scammer but we are trying to stop people from faking..
[1:56:38 PM] *** Tarmi bitcoin has left ***

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You need to run home to get control of your wallet? Cool, that's a totally acceptable reason for needing some time, right? No reason to call me a scammer the whole time because you're being backed into a corner.. It's all good, though, stress is a bitch, I get it

So we waited for an hour..... then continued waiting.... During this time, you'll notice a flood of FUD and scam talk about me in c-cex chat from the usual suspects in a case like this. I wonder if the seller of the account took a while to get your message.. BUT FINALLY, came a confirmation of an address that was hand (Skype) delivered by a well-known.. um, character, around these parts. For this, we venture to the land of waffles and meat helmets to meet the brother of someone we have all come to.. be aware of, I guess, who has been passing the time talking shit about me with the troll squad on c-cex while the seller took his sweet ass time getting back to him

Anyway, where was I? Ah yes, this brother.. where were you while we had a Skype conversation hours ago that could have nipped this entire thing in the bud? First this account was held by you the whole time, you just needed to go home and find the keys. Sure, that's reasonable enough, so we waited.. (I should add, that between the time of you needing to go home to confirm your account and the actual message, you have not changed IPs on your multiple names on Skype; you aren't fooling anyone, but it's interesting how you can 'be' in multiple places at once), and finally a few hours later it comes! Your brother must have met you at your house, because he was also using the same IP to send the message confirming that you controlled the address. This is very easy to confirm with publicly available information from Skype

It's been a long afternoon of waiting for you to come up with evidence that I was wrong and I know it's getting late in Belgium. Instead of continuing with the rather entertaining story I was planning to write, I will just sum it up like this instead..

So here we sit, my speculations of this situation. Use it how you will, my crypto-friends:

• OP is a suspected sold account, however, a message has been signed to an old BTC address, but for the following reason:
• I believe Bitspender (the one who is stealing your BTC) is still in contact with seller as it took many hours to accomplish this simple task and self-posted proof by OP shows account was for sale
• It's rare that someone doubts who a legendary is and when asked to prove long-term ownership during an ICO, gets very hostile
• If someone asks who a 'known' user is, we have no problem showing that. For example, nobody doubts that I am iGotSpots

TL;DR.. This puts me in a really awkward position, because I really don't want to harm c-cex's reputation or income; I really like Yuriy and want c-cex to succeed. Their platform is excellent and works well, responds fast, but he gets a bad rep from people like this taking advantage of his good nature (if you guys have not had a chance to speak with @Support on c-cex, I highly recommend it). So the real question that I've been struggling with for the last hour or so is whether or not I tell people that this is really just another ICO from Bitspender.. I think I'll keep it quiet for now and just leave it up to you guys to draw that conclusion for yourself

I do not believe Yuriy from c-cex was aware of this when he posted the ICO. I believe he was also deceived and lied to, as he was seeking the truth just as hard as I was today

[Spoetnik]

The info you presented DOES look damning.

I never heard of the Coinbuilder ICO or used that exchange before though.

Not a big fan of buying and selling accounts it rarely leads to anything good..

And yeah everyone i did in the past offer to give my account to iGotSpots.
He seemed pretty surprised and wanted nothing to do with it at all.

This was mid 2015 roughly right before i cancelled my internet service so i knew i'd be sort of offline.
I did not find another place for months though so i prematurely cancelled my internet.
Why did i offer ? I told him and i meant it.. so he could have some fun with you all with it 
He was the only guy i offered that too..

I figured i better throw that in there if i am going to say trading /selling accounts is bad

[iGotSpots]

The info you presented DOES look damning.

I never heard of the Coinbuilder ICO or used that exchange before though.

Not a big fan of buying and selling accounts it rarely leads to anything good..

And yeah everyone i did in the past offer to give my account to iGotSpots.
He seemed pretty surprised and wanted nothing to do with it at all.

This was mid 2015 roughly right before i cancelled my internet service so i knew i'd be sort of offline.
I did not find another place for months though so i prematurely cancelled my internet.
Why did i offer ? I told him and i meant it.. so he could have some fun with you all with it 
He was the only guy i offered that too..

I figured i better throw that in there if i am going to say trading /selling accounts is bad

Bolded for emphasis   

[iGotSpots]

Your ICO is done. You lost, make a new account and try harder next time

[Spoetnik]

hows the spots coin doing

how have they all been doing?

theyre all fucking dead because hes nothing but a shitclone dev packing his girlfriend spoetnik right in the rear.

yeah I know that's why I said was being a smart ass or like when he said he was taking over ninja coin ect... lmao

yea just some wannabe trailer trash trying to make rent above his welfare check good old spots

I don't need money

EDIT:
iGotSpots
I LOVE IT AHAHHA
You clearly struck a nerve ..carry on you are clearly on to something here ROFL

[Bobsurplus]

Ahhh... Bitspender.. I never really like that dude, Always gave me that scammer feel. Thanks for saving the community from another blatant scam Spots. We need more people like you in this community. And as for CCEX. Those guys are the most legit players in the altcoin exchange scene without a doubt. They have been paying off a debt from a hack to its users and they payments always come through, They've refunded many ico's that turned out to be scams and saved their community from losing money. Id prefer to trade there and leave my btc on there before any other exchange.

[iGotSpots]

From my info, nothing leads to Bob being involved here. I also did not say there was a scam or not, I am just providing facts. Do with them what you will

[Emericana]

http://imgur.com/8MJvGl0

[NextGenCrypto]

[da vinci]

Allright bitches.

You've asked for my involvement, you got my involvement.

From now on I'm part of this project, whether you like it or not.

I first refused to participate since I have my own projects to take care of, but hey. Why not.

This coin is now officially supported by bitspender.
Someone paste my terminator thumb!

@dev, let's kick some ass!

looks like spots was right again

[LovSan]

Allright bitches.

You've asked for my involvement, you got my involvement.

From now on I'm part of this project, whether you like it or not.

I first refused to participate since I have my own projects to take care of, but hey. Why not.

This coin is now officially supported by bitspender.
Someone paste my terminator thumb!

@dev, let's kick some ass!

looks like spots was right again

When you start do dig dipper, it becomes obvious, that tarmi = bitspender. Now it's just clear as day, when he admited his involment publicly.

TAM = SCAM
HiFUN = SCAM
Decennary = FAIL DoA
BUILD = FAIL SCAM

It's always unpleasant when you are hiding in shadows with intention to scam and become less poor, but getting rekt in the end.

[wildduck]

Bitspender in every mud there is

[bitspender]

There is enough bitspender for all of you

[iFUD4BTC]

There is enough bitspender for all of you

yea and youve probably got chicken wings lodge under your massive man tits.

moron scammer, move along.

[RealBitcoin]

Allright bitches.

You've asked for my involvement, you got my involvement.

From now on I'm part of this project, whether you like it or not.

I first refused to participate since I have my own projects to take care of, but hey. Why not.

This coin is now officially supported by bitspender.
Someone paste my terminator thumb!

@dev, let's kick some ass!

looks like spots was right again

When you start do dig dipper, it becomes obvious, that tarmi = bitspender. Now it's just clear as day, when he admited his involment publicly.

TAM = SCAM
HiFUN = SCAM
Decennary = FAIL DoA
BUILD = FAIL SCAM

It's always unpleasant when you are hiding in shadows with intention to scam and become less poor, but getting rekt in the end.

Yep looks like he is a well known serial scammer, check here the accusations

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290180.0

[NextGenCrypto]

Repeated fudders got warned enough, this topic is now under auto-moderation by a script.
If your name is on the blacklist, or activity < 10, all your posts will be removed, so i'll never even read them.

Stop bothering.

SHOCKER!

The EXACT same thing (XSTerminate) that has been used on EVERY recent scam.

[KeyserSozeMC]

I have nothing to do with igs. But I'm 100% sure build is a scam to the core.

[1:56:06 PM] Tarmi bitcoin: You + Keyzer in one thread

[Spoetnik]

@KeyserSozeMC
I got enough money for your wife too
And BobSurplus's girl-friend who shills for altcoins..

ProTip: Right Click and select View-Image to get a better eye full of her cleavage. 


And boys / girls.. Slow Your Roll, there is enough Bitspender for everybody !

[iGotSpots]

Sampey and CAT Trading Bot have pulled their services from assisting BUILD due to unpaid agreements and Bitspender (bought account tarmi) kept changing his terms, trying to wiggle out of paying for licenses 

[iGotSpots]

Unlocked for bumps since Bitspender is still trying to pass as tarmi