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December 22, 2015, 10:58:43 AM
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This is interesting moment now. If price will goes up to reach level of past days, about $460 or if it goes down, then some people will start selling to cover losses and we will see drop.

On 25th Dec 2015, 3 Month Futures Contracts on OKCoin expire (huge market btw).



Why does the 3 Month Futures Contracts on OKCoin expire on 25th Dec 2015? I thought they would have picked midnight on New Year's eve, or the stat of the next financial quarter. I know 25th Dec means nothing to the Chinese, it's a normal working day there, but it's a strange time to pick for Futures Contracts expiry because half the world will be busy holidaying then.
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December 22, 2015, 11:06:42 AM
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Does it mean anything that the volume is very low compared to the volume around the 4th when we had a rise,  i am guessing it means theres not enough momentum to keep rising a fall is due soon.  I am not a trader so dont fully understand these charts.

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It's a sign of a big big dump coming... But after the dump the price is probably going to go back up again pretty soon as we've seen several times this month already.

Sign of what? Big Dump? Are you sure about this? Can you explained why? Comparing to last rally to $500 huh. It's different like I said in my previous post. Today's rally to  around $430-$460 from $280 are month in the making compare to last rally that less than 72 hours in the making.

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December 22, 2015, 11:27:24 AM
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Does it mean anything that the volume is very low compared to the volume around the 4th when we had a rise,  i am guessing it means theres not enough momentum to keep rising a fall is due soon.  I am not a trader so dont fully understand these charts.

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It's a sign of a big big dump coming... But after the dump the price is probably going to go back up again pretty soon as we've seen several times this month already.

Yes I believe this will happen as well. It wouldn't surprise me. We'll just have to wait and see what will happen the next couple of days or so.
At least nobody can say that bitcoin is dying, it keeps on moving.

Who beside brand new shill accounts have been talking about Bitcoin is dying? I haven't seen anyone beside you. The price will definitely go up as we are heading closer and closer towards the block halving. Each dump that you see now is just a temporary occurrence. People should not panic and use it to buy more coins if they haven't already.
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December 22, 2015, 12:10:01 PM
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On 25th Dec 2015, 3 Month Futures Contracts on OKCoin expire (huge market btw).

Word has it, that 'they' have a vested interest in holding Bitcoin in and around this range until this date, at which point 'they' cash in, cash out, and then short Bitcoin. Until then, expect BTC to be full of nasty choppiness, with all manner of misleading signals and market structure to sucker punch n00b traders but ultimately the experienced and shrewd trader (and that certainly isn't me) is expecting a correction at least down to the 30 ema and/or the 38.2% retracement for the whole rally (so around $400). Whatever happens, bound to be a bounce around here, but if it doesn't hold, then it will be the $360 zone down at the 61.8% retracement, which just so happens to be what Smart Money would refer to has the 'wholesale' reload zone. Right now, we are in the 'retail' zone. This is where Smart Money sells 'overvalued' BTC to n00bs....and like I say, much shrewder punters than me reckon we will hang around here until the 3 Month Future contracts turnover (in 3 days time), and then after that.....DOWN!

I am long term bullish on Bitcoin, but Bitcoin has changed. We now have margin trading, ability to short, and a large and liquid BTC futures market on top of that, with yet more leveraged trading. Unlike in the days of Gox and Willy bot, when Bitcoin whales still largely consisted of 'dumb money' (i.e. tech nerds holding all the BTC as opposed to pro traders), I think in the next bull rise, we can expect to see a shit ton more up and down volatility as the pro trader whales take market down into their wholesale reload zones, before ramping it up into their retail cash out zones. This is how Smart Money takes money from the market. 'They' aint going to just let this rise and rise unabated (with the odd panic flash sell off) like in previous bull runs.

Go long now at your own peril. Even attempt to trade swings now at your own peril. Since I returned here, I have noticed that the one member of this site who seems to be well on the money (without ever providing any TA for his projections and forecasts) is Morecoin Freeman. He turned bear after $420 (yeah, BTC went up to $470, but so what). He said, 'see ya all in 2016'. Perhaps he is mindful of this pending 3 Months Future contract turnover and the overstretched nature of the market?
Finally something reasonable and backed by some technical arguments in a sea of 'to da moon' posts.
I also see quite a lot of support levels in the cluster between $350 and $400 and I expect this area to be tested in the upcoming weeks with a positive outcome.
The only question to me is how deep we go below $400, $360 would be already a very reasonable correction, I expect to have keen buyers already at around $380.

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December 22, 2015, 12:18:58 PM
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Does it mean anything that the volume is very low compared to the volume around the 4th when we had a rise,  i am guessing it means theres not enough momentum to keep rising a fall is due soon.  I am not a trader so dont fully understand these charts.

 Wink

It's a sign of a big big dump coming... But after the dump the price is probably going to go back up again pretty soon as we've seen several times this month already.

Yes I believe this will happen as well. It wouldn't surprise me. We'll just have to wait and see what will happen the next couple of days or so.
At least nobody can say that bitcoin is dying, it keeps on moving.

Who beside brand new shill accounts have been talking about Bitcoin is dying? I haven't seen anyone beside you. The price will definitely go up as we are heading closer and closer towards the block halving. Each dump that you see now is just a temporary occurrence. People should not panic and use it to buy more coins if they haven't already.

Well I'm not a brand new shill account and I say Bitcoin's price will definitely go down. I agree with newcoins1978, and he didn't say Bitcoin's dying, he said the price will crash soon.
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December 22, 2015, 12:59:00 PM
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Less volume makes it easier to pump... or dump.

This volume is the real market volume of bitcoin. Meaning in a few days/weeks when the market manipulators come back we will see a big pump.. or they decided to cash out..

I would go for a pump, I don't think the whales would decide to cash all out with the price being this low. I doubt they would enjoy so very little profits.
Who knows though, I'm just gonna wait until a pump happens.
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December 22, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
Last edit: December 22, 2015, 03:54:19 PM by MatTheCat
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Less volume makes it easier to pump... or dump.

This volume is the real market volume of bitcoin. Meaning in a few days/weeks when the market manipulators come back we will see a big pump.. or they decided to cash out..

I would go for a pump, I don't think the whales would decide to cash all out with the price being this low. I doubt they would enjoy so very little profits.
Who knows though, I'm just gonna wait until a pump happens.

Hmm, now let me see.

'They' took their positions $300-$320. Bitcoin currently $430. $100 Profit per BTC. That is like 33% gains!

But, instead of taking this profit, and then letting/making the market fall away back down the price scale into $300s and further profiting from Short Selling Bitcoin, before reloading 'their' long positions at wholesale panic dumpy prices, to later dump at retail prices back up in the upper $400s or possibly the $500s, you think it would be more profitable for the whales just hodl their BTC and push the spot price up even higher?

Well....if that is what ya like to think.....




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December 26, 2015, 05:18:29 PM
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This is interesting moment now. If price will goes up to reach level of past days, about $460 or if it goes down, then some people will start selling to cover losses and we will see drop.

On 25th Dec 2015, 3 Month Futures Contracts on OKCoin expire (huge market btw).

Word has it, that 'they' have a vested interest in holding Bitcoin in and around this range until this date, at which point 'they' cash in, cash out, and then short Bitcoin. Until then, expect BTC to be full of nasty choppiness, with all manner of misleading signals and market structure to sucker punch n00b traders but ultimately the experienced and shrewd trader (and that certainly isn't me) is expecting a correction at least down to the 30 ema and/or the 38.2% retracement for the whole rally (so around $400). Whatever happens, bound to be a bounce around here, but if it doesn't hold, then it will be the $360 zone down at the 61.8% retracement, which just so happens to be what Smart Money would refer to has the 'wholesale' reload zone. Right now, we are in the 'retail' zone. This is where Smart Money sells 'overvalued' BTC to n00bs....and like I say, much shrewder punters than me reckon we will hang around here until the 3 Month Future contracts turnover (in 3 days time), and then after that.....DOWN!

I am long term bullish on Bitcoin, but Bitcoin has changed. We now have margin trading, ability to short, and a large and liquid BTC futures market on top of that, with yet more leveraged trading. Unlike in the days of Gox and Willy bot, when Bitcoin whales still largely consisted of 'dumb money' (i.e. tech nerds holding all the BTC as opposed to pro traders), I think in the next bull rise, we can expect to see a shit ton more up and down volatility as the pro trader whales take market down into their wholesale reload zones, before ramping it up into their retail cash out zones. This is how Smart Money takes money from the market. 'They' aint going to just let this rise and rise unabated (with the odd panic flash sell off) like in previous bull runs.

Go long now at your own peril. Even attempt to trade swings now at your own peril. Since I returned here, I have noticed that the one member of this site who seems to be well on the money (without ever providing any TA for his projections and forecasts) is Morecoin Freeman. He turned bear after $420 (yeah, BTC went up to $470, but so what). He said, 'see ya all in 2016'. Perhaps he is mindful of this pending 3 Months Future contract turnover and the overstretched nature of the market?


Ahem.......  Grin


Not that I can take personal credit for this market insight.......a a pro trader told me! But it certainly pays to pay attention to what the Pros say, other than the inane brain damage that gets touted around this forum.

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