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December 11, 2012, 06:57:17 PM
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The rest of casinos are BSing about provable fairness.

What do you mean by that?  Is it that you don't understand how provable fairness works, or have you found some way the sites can cheat despite their so-called provable fairness?  If so, could you please point out how?

How do you propose provable fairness will be implemented in Texas Holdem except using mental poker?

I didn't mention poker.  You said other casinos' provable fairness was BS.  I asked if you had anything to back that up.  You dodged the question.  Holdem is irrelevant to my question since there's no bitcoin poker site currently offering provable fairness.

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December 11, 2012, 07:01:31 PM
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I am a simple website admin, I am not here to discuss cryptography or any technical related info. I am a messenger between the person above me and the average user, I reply to emails, help resolve account problems etc etc, anyone with enough braincells to comprehend the concept of internal company hierarchy will understand that no one will pay a chief security expert which works with banks (and we have access to those) 150$ an hour to discuss ciphers with 16 year old teenagers that play Minecraft.

It is clear how much competition and dirty promoting exist on these forums since I was met with sticks and stones.

I mean no disrespect but I would rather trust my money to casino 777 than Satoshi or any other "provably fair" casino which will likely loose it's bitcoins as foolishly as Bitcoinia. Those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind. If there are any serious entrepreneurs that are ready to invest I can easily arrange an online chat with an expert.

Got it.  Like Tom Smykowski.  He deals with the god damn customers, so the engineers don't have to.  He has people skills, he is good at dealing with people!  Can't you understand that?  What the hell is wrong with you people?

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December 11, 2012, 07:22:32 PM
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... to discuss ciphers with 16 year old teenagers that play Minecraft.

It is clear how much competition and dirty promoting exist on these forums since I was met with sticks and stones.

You are lost my friend.  You might see other operators as competitors but that's really not how we see ourselves when speaking to you about issues.  We all want to see Bitcoin succeed and crap websites don't help the community image.  So we just try to help, no one told you to go away.  If we wanted you to go away we wouldn't have said anything and your site would have taken the inevitable plunge to obscurity because your site really is garbage design and won't appeal to people.  Remember most people owning bitcoins are fairly technical and can smell crap from a country mile away.  We don't engage you to have a buddy to talk ciphers to.
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December 11, 2012, 10:05:37 PM
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I am a simple website admin, I am not here to discuss cryptography or any technical related info. I am a messenger between the person above me and the average user, I reply to emails, help resolve account problems etc etc, anyone with enough braincells to comprehend the concept of internal company hierarchy will understand that no one will pay a chief security expert which works with banks (and we have access to those) 150$ an hour to discuss ciphers with 16 year old teenagers that play Minecraft.


A few things for the future:

1) I'm a 30 year old IT professional who plays Minecraft. The dismissive tone you've had for the entire thread sounds like customer support I've experienced before that won't really care about my very real money at stake in their game. YOU are the sole PR person for this site that none of us have heard of before, and you've done a horrible job of providing PR - insulting and dismissing people groups.

2) You started off in your OP sounding like it was your project, and now you're saying that none of this is your repsonsibility. You're new here, introduce yourself. Give us a reason to like you, which I haven't seen yet.

3) You entered into an internet forum for an experimental peer-to-peer digital cryptocurrency where some of the first proponents were hardcore anarchists, but don't want to talk details about how the product works. Again, this sounds like not taking the time to actually try and learn about who you're talking to, which makes me think that I won't be taken seriously if I enter your site.

4) I also have access to chief security experts, some of whom make far more than $150 an hour. That doesn't mean that I hired them, which is what it sounds like you didn't do either. Of course, this could just be the fact that you have no technical chops to discuss what is going on with your site with people who demonstrably do.

5) The reason provably fair games are a necessity is that Bitcoin is rife with scams. A sickening amount of traffic that goes on is a scam, so people are very cautious. Again, you didn't read the forums, you didn't know who you were talking with, and you just come across as being a brat who expects people to believe you without proof. Casinos don't have to show proof because we can easily sue if it turns out that they aren't fair and they are legislated - this has become something that is known. If you suddenly disappear with the Bitcoins or cook the algorithms to have an edge while saying that you don't, we have little to no recourse.

What I see here is that you come into a forum that a cursory glance would show is very technically minded with no technical expertise to back you up. Then upon being asked for details, you proceeded to minimize, dismiss, and insult the very people who would be your biggest word of mouth believers and initial investors.

And last thought about the site: the color of the text on the buttons needs to be changed. Even if you aren't color blind, it requires concentration to get letters out of it. The entire site consists of same colored text on same colored background with no contrast to make it easy on the eyes. The font is too small to sustain that and it tires eyes out. There is also improper grammar in several places throughout, raising more red flags.

Final thought; you (as the website admin, I have to assume you have final say on what goes on the website) have felt the need to say on the homepage says "Bitcoin verifies transactions with the same state-of-the-art encryption that is used in military and government applications." Then you come onto the forum that is responsible for the community behind Bitcoin, and proceed to show a very poor knowledge of what encryption is. This disconnect between what is being stated and the meaning behind the words is what seems to be turning most of us off.

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December 12, 2012, 10:17:02 AM
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I am a simple website admin, I am not here to discuss cryptography or any technical related info. I am a messenger between the person above me and the average user, I reply to emails, help resolve account problems etc etc, anyone with enough braincells to comprehend the concept of internal company hierarchy will understand that no one will pay a chief security expert which works with banks (and we have access to those) 150$ an hour to discuss ciphers with 16 year old teenagers that play Minecraft.

It is clear how much competition and dirty promoting exist on these forums since I was met with sticks and stones.

I mean no disrespect but I would rather trust my money to casino 777 than Satoshi or any other "provably fair" casino which will likely loose it's bitcoins as foolishly as Bitcoinia. Those who mind don't matter, those who matter don't mind. If there are any serious entrepreneurs that are ready to invest I can easily arrange an online chat with an expert.

Got it.  Like Tom Smykowski.  He deals with the god damn customers, so the engineers don't have to.  He has people skills, he is good at dealing with people!  Can't you understand that?  What the hell is wrong with you people?
CasinoBit, you should hire me as a PR manager. Currently, you are doing PR worse than MPOE-PR, and that is really an achievement.
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