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September 08, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
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It's starting to get near the end of the summer, Sirius. How have things been going? Do you have any updates. I checked out the slides in your signature and felt compelled to post. This looks really interesting, and seems to be the only one done by someone with a reputation here already. It'd help immensely in getting us off of using GPG and WoT to something simpler that the typical forum-goer can use.

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November 10, 2013, 12:24:45 AM
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I've just found these! Grin
Site: http://identifi.org
Github: https://github.com/identifi/identifi

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November 10, 2013, 04:43:03 AM
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All of the heavy lifting can already be provided through various means.

The things is that nothing decentralised is easy to use. I gave up on Bitcoin-OTC

Im working on such a system that should be fairly simple to use AND to hack on.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cKlN55wX7n0SLvxidLoFVrJnNMJO-Iefr8bVyeHBseg/edit?usp=sharing

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November 28, 2013, 03:43:32 PM
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So glad to see this happening!

I suggested this in June 2011 and put some thoughts about what it may and may not include. Really happy to see Sirius making this happen! More power to your elbow!

Here's my post from two years ago:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=17290.0

I believe there's this guy Joe Cascio working on something similar:
http://joecascio.net/joecblog/2013/03/25/collateralized-identity-using-bitcoin-to-suppress-sockpuppets/
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December 03, 2013, 03:23:54 PM
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Well this is an intriguing read.  I hadn't realized there was so much work being done to get a system like this up and running and now I see I was mistaken.  Gonna have a fair bit of catching to do to wrap my mind around this one.

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February 24, 2014, 07:04:46 PM
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Not completely functional yet, but still something to show: http://identi.fi (identifi/identifi). It's a Rails UI for the Identifi client, which is built on bitcoin-qt codebase. Basically, we flood trust packets throughout the network. Nodes give the priority to packets that are authored and signed by someone from within their web of trust.

Feedback, technical suggestions and help with development is very welcome. The code is available on GitHub.

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February 25, 2014, 01:21:37 AM
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That looks nice. I think I get the gist of what you're trying to do presently. Are those all test entries or is the intention to work with, say, nanotube to read ratings off of bitcoin-otc? It looks as if the user/account is an email located there, but I presume the idea is to identify the user and the site on which that user account resides.

I always thought it'd be kind of nice to have an identity management system whereby a trusted API (a "central" location) could indicate the last time an individual has proven their identity either via GPG, signed message with a registered Bitcoin address, or done phone call/text verification. Essentially if they don't meet M of N authorizations, the API would reject any "authentication" request as that particular user. Then sites like this forum, OTC, and etc could all work of it and consider it a reasonably secure way to ensure the entity they are speaking with is the correct one.

I know different exchanges do different forms of two-factor authentication, but having a single trusted source would be handy. Additionally, if open-sourced or hosted as a TOR hidden service, it could work to provide trust to otherwise anonymous identities as well.

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February 25, 2014, 08:19:57 AM
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The purpose is to crawl data from existing sources, so we don't need to build the WoT from scratch. The bitcoin-otc crawler is on GitHub too.

In Identifi, anyone can do identity verifications (i.e. make connections between identifiers) and choose whose verifications they trust. Anyone can start building a good reputation in identity verfication. A pseudonymous identity is just an identifier (a bitcoin address for example) that hasn't been reliably connected to the identifiers of an actual person.

Most users will probably be using the network through a web service, but I'm planning to make it easier to be run locally. A browser plugin would be an interesting solution.

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February 25, 2014, 08:39:29 AM
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Identity and reputation is the wrong way to go.

Building recourse into transactions such that you don't need to trust counterparties is the correct path.

Then you don't need to identify who you're doing business with so there's no valid reason to build privacy-destroying databases.
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February 25, 2014, 08:59:29 AM
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Escrow requires trust in the arbitrator.

Reputation is valuable in basically all human interaction. Airbnb, couchsurfing and Uber are practical examples of the power of reputation systems.

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February 25, 2014, 09:07:38 AM
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Owning facebook profile won't prevent any one from making a lot of them. Not to mention not everyone might like the idea of publication of they personality under certain vote. Besides for many if people they facebook profile is more of private thing, reserved for they family and friends ( well family mostly recently hehe, twitter is for friends). But lunching such service shouldn't be a problem and I'm always happy to see new initiatives. Another problem might be traffic on such site, what you probably would enjoy, and possible attacks from unhappy sites.

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February 25, 2014, 09:26:31 AM
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Escrow requires trust in the arbitrator.
Does it really have to, or is that just the way people have always done it before?

Reputation is valuable in basically all human interaction. Airbnb, couchsurfing and Uber are practical examples of the power of reputation systems.
Reputation systems give you a limited and imperfect method of predicting intentionally malicious behavior.

Insurance provides recourse that covers both intentional and unintentional damages. Properly implemented insurance systems offer a strict superset of the functionality provided by reputation systems and also don't require privacy compromises.
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March 15, 2014, 01:02:02 AM
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There is an update on the project, you can now easly join with a Twitter account.
http://identi.fi (identifi/identifi)

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May 30, 2014, 08:24:33 AM
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I see that this project was posted in 2012. Ethereum was not around then. But, in 2014, I believe the best implementation of this project is done through Ethereum.

White Paper: https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-White-Paper

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May 30, 2014, 09:18:33 PM
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Hello Sirius,

I'm from Kenya. I've been following keenly on digital currency trends. Much has been said of crypto currencies and Africa and I've been brainstorming ideas on how to best leverage crypto concepts such as the blockchain to solving some of the immediate problems in Kenya (some can be generalized to much of Sub Saharan Africa). Anyway, some of my thoughts led me here. Identity. I think its possible to use the blockchain (or a public ledger) to store multiple identities of individuals and have them hold on to the private key to restore their identities on multiple services/sign ups in case of loss. I'll explain

My friend carries around 14 cards in his wallet: multiple debit cards, loyalty cards, National ID card, Social Security card. . .you get the picture. Here in Kenya, the national identification card/issuing system is separate from tax ID, Social Security ID and hospital insurance iD. There's no centralized database system to lock in all identities into 1 card. Losing any of these cards requires a tedious process of restoring it. Takes days/weeks/months depending on card. Much of the national system isn't computerized to streamline process [read zero-early adoption]

To my point. Imagine a 'transaction' on a public ledger that establishes an individual and all his/her identities on whatever service [ALL in one]. Any additional identities are added to an address through 'new transactions'. The info will be hashed and the private key secured by the individual. Losing any of the cards would just require the owner to restore his identity on a new card via the private key and a new transaction to verify restoration.

I'm curious on whether such a system is in development based on the blockchain concept. Are you aware of any? I'd like to get your take on the feasibility of this. I'm not looking to develop, but rather, to have it as a possible application of cryptos to Africa for a digital currency awareness campaign.



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June 01, 2014, 04:24:20 AM
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Very interesting project, looking to implement something like this in a P2P lending project I am considering doing. Keeping watch
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July 14, 2014, 09:40:50 PM
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Just something I got stuck with, easy (?) 0.5 BTC for someone who's familiar with bitcoin-qt code: https://github.com/identifi/identifi/issues/3

Now we just need to get that one fixed, plus some network code, and we have something that works.

The current data storage and transfer model might not be the optimal, but this is more of a proof-of-concept implementation.

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August 22, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
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Looking for paid developers, check out http://identifi.org/

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August 22, 2014, 03:35:05 PM
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Looking for paid developers, check out http://identifi.org/

Is relocation a criteria to join your team ?

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August 22, 2014, 04:11:05 PM
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Looking for paid developers, check out http://identifi.org/

Is relocation a criteria to join your team ?

Nah. Skill, motivation and a skype account is sufficient.

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