NastyPoP vs Standard P2Pool

[jonnybravo0311]

It only affected the NastyPoP nodes for the vast majority of the few days.  The NastyP2P nodes were only down for a few hours.

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[jonnybravo0311]

Another good week for p2pool, and as a result, p2pool standard payouts have exceeded expectations over the length of the test.  This week's results put my standard p2pool earnings at 101.08% of expected from 12/26 until 8/21.  NastyPoP isn't too far behind, but it is behind nonetheless.  It's overall results show I have received 94.81% of expected earnings.

Here are the numbers:

8/14 - 8/21
NastyPoP: 0.03640067BTC
NastyP2P: 0.04331323BTC
Expected: 0.02939197BTC
Luck - 138.27%

OP updated.

[yslyung]

any insights or particular reason why the regular p2p is more than pop & both of them are p2p ?

[TheAnalogKid]

any insights or particular reason why the regular p2p is more than pop & both of them are p2p ?

NastyPoP is a ckpool front end running on top of the core P2Pool.  It proxies all PoP miners as one address to P2Pool, and then it keeps track of shares and pays out weekly.   It aims to be a more even distribution method to smooth out the variance spikes as well as make sure smaller miners receive proper payouts when they may otherwise not land a share in the current block payout. 

Over a long term the numbers should converge and in reality the expectation is that PoP should come out ahead in the long run.

When the normal P2Pool has a good week it ends up higher, when its luck is down PoP ends up higher.  The long term numbers from Johnny however, I don't know why it's still a little off.

[jonnybravo0311]

It's been a few weeks since I've updated this post.  Unfortunately work has kept me too busy to keep up here.  P2Pool had a couple unlucky weeks and a lucky week.  Network difficulty has continued to increase, and new hardware has been introduced, making my S3s that much closer to being obsolete.  Quite honestly, I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to keep them plugged in and mining.  The new S7 certainly looks to be an interesting piece of hardware, bringing levels of efficiency never seen before in a 28nm process ASIC.  However, its price point is a bitter pill to swallow.

Anyway, let's take a look at the numbers for the past few weeks:

8/21 - 8/28
NastyPoP: 0.01170063BTC
NastyP2P: 0.02753223BTC
Expected: 0.02857788BTC
Luck - 54.07%

8/28 - 9/4
NastyPoP: 0.0455039BTC
NastyP2P: 0.04888988BTC
Expected: 0.02846873BTC
Luck - 180.68%

9/4 - 9/11
NastyPoP: 0.01466154BTC
NastyP2P: 0.00815205BTC
Expected: 0.02719480BTC
Luck - 63.24%

OP Updated

[jonnybravo0311]

Yeah, I'm behind.  The real world has kept me busy and this is really the first time I've sat down to do the data.  The data is below; however, unlike in previous updates I'm not going to update the OP with the details.  I'll just leave it up to the graphs and raw data from the spreadsheet to provide the updates in the OP.  Eventually I'm not going to be able to add any more text to the first post anyway, so I might as well just start condensing it now.

In the past 6 weeks, things have been up and down for p2pool.  The luck stats would seem to indicate that as well.  Weeks of 9/18, 9/25, and 10/9 were below average expected luck, while the weeks of 10/2, 10/16 and 10/23 were above average.  As for my miners, they've tended to mirror that trend as well.  However, of note is that my miner on the NastyPoP payout has pretty much consistently (only 1 week in 6 that it didn't) beaten the standard p2pool payout.

9/11 - 9/18
NastyPoP: 0.01749809BTC
NastyP2P: 0.01594801BTC
Expected: 0.02704454BTC
Luck - 64.05%

9/18 - 9/25
NastyPoP: 0.02153287BTC
NastyP2P: 0.0122369BTC
Expected: 0.02610505BTC
Luck - 97%

9/25 - 10/2
NastyPoP: 0.04509658BTC
NastyP2P: 0.04937384BTC
Expected: 0.02598755BTC
Luck - 197.69%

10/2 - 10/9
NastyPoP: 0.01134903BTC
NastyP2P: 0.00951317BTC
Expected: 0.02547065BTC
Luck - 57.71%

10/9 - 10/16
NastyPoP: 0.02790957BTC
NastyP2P: 0.02483293BTC
Expected: 0.02546511BTC
Luck - 133.15%

10/16 - 10/23
NastyPoP: 0.03667461BTC
NastyP2P: 0.02703798BTC
Expected: 0.02544111BTC
Luck - 185.08%

OP updated with latest numbers

[jonnybravo0311]

2 weeks worth of data this time because last week wasn't worth the effort to post as p2pool found no blocks whatsoever.  However, even though there were no blocks found last week, I still received a payout from NastyPoP because of the seat donations that are incorporated into the weekly payouts.  Numbers are below:

10/23 - 10/30
NastyPoP: 0.00647901BTC
NastyP2P: 0BTC
Expected: 0.02531252BTC
Luck - 0%

10/30 - 11/6
NastyPoP: 0.02516974BTC
NastyP2P: 0.02863589BTC
Expected: 0.02488117BTC
Luck - 99.8%

OP updated

[wanqinyua]

I've re-pointed all my miners now to the US node with the original EU node as failover, works well.
I start by saying thank you to jonnybravo0311. You are doing excellent work testing.

[jonnybravo0311]

Well... I've been running this test for over a year.  Friday (Yep, Christmas) will mark the full year for both miners on OgNasty's nodes.  Looking back through the data, one can clearly see some pretty wild swings in the variance.  Overall?  Not too bad, even with some pretty awful luck streaks.  Unless there's a Christmas miracle this week, standard p2pool payouts will have proven the most profitable by a slim margin.  The OP is updated with the totals and the raw data has been uploaded as well.