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December 12, 2012, 10:45:15 PM
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I think the primary thing people forget is how much easier it is to be wrong than right.
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December 12, 2012, 11:01:16 PM
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I think the primary thing people forget is how much easier it is to be wrong than right.
True dat.

Do you have any idea how hard it is on me, being right all the time? Wink

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December 14, 2012, 01:09:18 PM
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Interlagos, you know that's a piss take, right? It was meant to be funny, not taken at face value.

Off course that was a joke, and it was a joke on my part as well Grin
But getting too emotional about information might severely damage your ability to look for patterns.

Everything is information (jokes are not excluded) and the Universe doesn't do meaningless things.
So, if you find yourself incapable/unwilling to make immediate sense of the information you receive it might be that the pattern is too complex for you to swallow or you might need to take a break Wink

Also one more hint for you "apprentice truth-seekers" Smiley
Once the pattern is recognized it becomes much easier to remember just the pattern but not the information you derived it from, thus freeing memory for new information to come in. If the pattern was valid it will be reinforced again and again over time with the new information you receive.

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I will be away from the Internet for the next 3 weeks, so feel free to continue to entertain yourself and keep this thread alive if you wish.
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December 14, 2012, 07:40:10 PM
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If I stick my biological tuning fork in a light socket will it change my frequency?
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December 15, 2012, 02:24:47 AM
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If I stick my biological tuning fork in a light socket will it change my frequency?

tried that .... it hurts but now i see much more clearly that .... ill finetune myself a bit now ....frzzzz


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Everything is information (jokes are not excluded) and the Universe doesn't do meaningless things.
Everything becomes meaningful because u give the Information meaning.... that doesn't imply that everything happens for a reason.... The universe does a lot meaningless things :/
 

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Everything is information (jokes are not excluded) and the Universe doesn't do meaningless things.
Everything becomes meaningful because u give the Information meaning.... that doesn't imply that everything happens for a reason.... The universe does a lot meaningless things :/
Yes, all situations are in a sense neutral, the meaning you assign to it will determine the effect you get out of it. But everything happens for a reason and you will learn to trust it with that Wink
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December 15, 2012, 07:17:31 AM
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You say alot of vaguely insightful things, as do the various youtube videos you keep posting rather than in depth evidence... However, the important thing is to actually do something useful for others. I mean actually useful not just they interpreted in such and such way and it is useful. Pretty much any non status quo idea can only help people on that front whether BS or not.
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December 15, 2012, 07:25:01 AM
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You say alot of vaguely insightful things, as do the various youtube videos you keep posting rather than in depth evidence... However, the important thing is to actually do something useful for others. I mean actually useful not just they interpreted in such and such way and it is useful. Pretty much any non status quo idea can only help people on that front whether BS or not.

I only say what needs to be said and only do what needs to be done! Wink
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December 15, 2012, 07:27:16 AM
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You say alot of vaguely insightful things, as do the various youtube videos you keep posting rather than in depth evidence... However, the important thing is to actually do something useful for others. I mean actually useful not just they interpreted in such and such way and it is useful. Pretty much any non status quo idea can only help people on that front whether BS or not.

I only say what needs to be said and only do what needs to be done! Wink


I guess you're doing your part then. I meant to imply opportunity cost tho.
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December 17, 2012, 05:42:44 PM
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If you took quantum physics you should already know that there isn't anything solid in reality anyway. it all boils down to probabilities of observing something. At quantum level the existence itself is waving.
But "mainstream" science still doesn't know what causes the alleged collapse of the wave-function, because they still don't understand what the consciousness is.

The explanation given in the presentation doesn't need to deal with the collapse of the wave-function because there isn't any. It only assumes that conscious observer has its own frequency pattern and can form ensembles with other frequency patterns via constructive and destructive interference. It unifies the conscious observer with everything else in the system making an implicit assumption that everything else is also made of consciousness (this wasn't mentioned in the video, just an extrapolation on my part).
There is a saying - you will not perceive what you're not a vibration of - that sum's it up nicely.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqtiFX_IQQ

This video is about the famous double slit experiment,that supports your point,its pure acceptable science  Smiley

Nobody have been able to find how and why the presence of an observer affects a physical phenomenon. Many spiritual things can be derived from this like "Reality exists due to observer".

Some Relevant history from Wiki
Another thing worth mentioning here, about collapse of wave-function of a particle, to a single point, on being observed.This problem can be best illustrated by the famous cat experiment of Schrodinger. It was interpreted by Everett by many worlds theory in 1957.

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December 18, 2012, 12:07:08 AM
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If you took quantum physics you should already know that there isn't anything solid in reality anyway. it all boils down to probabilities of observing something. At quantum level the existence itself is waving.
But "mainstream" science still doesn't know what causes the alleged collapse of the wave-function, because they still don't understand what the consciousness is.

The explanation given in the presentation doesn't need to deal with the collapse of the wave-function because there isn't any. It only assumes that conscious observer has its own frequency pattern and can form ensembles with other frequency patterns via constructive and destructive interference. It unifies the conscious observer with everything else in the system making an implicit assumption that everything else is also made of consciousness (this wasn't mentioned in the video, just an extrapolation on my part).
There is a saying - you will not perceive what you're not a vibration of - that sum's it up nicely.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqtiFX_IQQ

This video is about the famous double slit experiment,that supports your point,its pure acceptable science  Smiley

Nobody have been able to find how and why the presence of an observer affects a physical phenomenon. Many spiritual things can be derived from this like "Reality exists due to observer".

Some Relevant history from Wiki
Another thing worth mentioning here, about collapse of wave-function of a particle, to a single point, on being observed.This problem can be best illustrated by the famous cat experiment of Schrodinger. It was interpreted by Everett by many worlds theory in 1957.

Isn't the "observer" in the double-slit experiment actually the film?
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December 18, 2012, 12:41:30 AM
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This video is about the famous double slit experiment

Yeah, I think I remember seeing this porn flick.
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December 18, 2012, 10:48:49 AM
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You cloud take hard facts as joke as ignorance is a bliss.

Local Realism died way back in early 1980's. 

Must read Quantum Physics and the Boundaries of Spacetime.

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