Newtown Shooting - How it will unfold

[Haole]

- Controlled demolition dropped the World Trade Center towers

Do you fucking know how many other concrete buildings in all recorded history, even those that were much more damaged, crumbled down
upon airplane or other vehicles impacts, or fires?

NONE, you idiot!

I'm amazed subSTRATA, the idiocy and/or ignorance demonstrated by a few of the specimens here is truly astounding.  This is obviously not the place to discuss rational perceptions or even entertain the use of common sense for that matter.  

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[myrkul]

- Controlled demolition dropped the World Trade Center towers

Do you fucking know how many other concrete buildings in all recorded history, even those that were much more damaged, crumbled down
upon airplane or other vehicles impacts, or fires?

NONE, you idiot!

Do you know how many other high rise buildings have been hit by jet airliners loaded with 100,000 to 200,000 pounds of jet fuel with ten to twenty floors above the impact point which are still standing?

Are we to include WTC 7 in our count, or no? Just curious.

[evolve]

And here we go into full on nutjob territory.....

So tell me, was it the aliens or the Jews that orchestrated 9/11? I'm just wondering which brand of crazy I'm dealing with.

[FirstAscent]

- Controlled demolition dropped the World Trade Center towers

Do you fucking know how many other concrete buildings in all recorded history, even those that were much more damaged, crumbled down
upon airplane or other vehicles impacts, or fires?

NONE, you idiot!

Do you know how many other high rise buildings have been hit by jet airliners loaded with 100,000 to 200,000 pounds of jet fuel with ten to twenty floors above the impact point which are still standing?

Do you have any fucking idea what temperature jet fuel or anything that can be normaly found in buildings burn at, and what is melting
temperature of steel used for reinforcing, or concrete itself? Maybe you think the amount of fuel matters?
 
Really, go educate yourself.

Why are we talking about melting? Did I mention melting? Really, don't blindside yourself because you want to believe in government conspiracies. And yes, the quantity of jet fuel does matter.

[Rudd-O]

Just FYI, subSTARDED, FirstAsshat and ElectricVomit are all in my ignore list, and this thread is about conspiracy theories now -- so this thread is amusing as hell, more amusing than an FBI release about aliens with three quarters of the text censored out.

[FirstAscent]

- Controlled demolition dropped the World Trade Center towers

Do you fucking know how many other concrete buildings in all recorded history, even those that were much more damaged, crumbled down
upon airplane or other vehicles impacts, or fires?

NONE, you idiot!

Do you know how many other high rise buildings have been hit by jet airliners loaded with 100,000 to 200,000 pounds of jet fuel with ten to twenty floors above the impact point which are still standing?

Do you have any fucking idea what temperature jet fuel or anything that can be normaly found in buildings burn at, and what is melting
temperature of steel used for reinforcing, or concrete itself? Maybe you think the amount of fuel matters?
 
Really, go educate yourself.

Why are we talking about melting? Did I mention melting? Really, don't blindside yourself because you want to believe in government conspiracies. And yes, the quantity of jet fuel does matter.

So we were talking about the melting point of steel (or rather, subSTRATA was). But I'm not sure why. So please tell me why we were discussing the melting point of steel. Is it somehow relevant to making a case about a WTC conspiracy?

[FirstAscent]

I don't have time to explain construction works for you, check it on Internet.

Maybe I have. I suspect you're the one who is lacking information. Again, tell me how the melting point of steel is relevant? Oh, and tell me why the quantity of jet fuel is not relevant as well.

[FirstAscent]

No answer? Is that because you don't know anything but what you've been fed by your conspiracy loving "sources"?

Melting point of steel: explain the significance (and your understanding).

Jet fuel quantity: explain why you think the quantity of jet fuel does not matter.

[foggyb]

I think what you mean is that unenforceable laws do not prevent crime. You cannot allow firearms within a country and not expect child murder as the necessary result.

Here in Singapore discharge or attempt to discharge a firearm is punishable by hanging. Possession of 3 or more firearms is also punishable by hanging. Toy guns are illegal. Air guns are illegal. Paintball guns are illegal. Pepper spray is illegal. Stun guns are illegal. Handcuffs are illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore#Arms_Offences_Act

Results: Next to no gun crime. Almost no murder. Almost no violent crime.

If you want to stop violent crime, just summarily execute anyone found in possession of arms. This approach has proven effectiveness.

Exactly what fool would try to profit from crime (using guns) in Singapore? The place is a dot in the ocean. The criminals aren't "suppressed" by these ridiculous laws, they just carry on elsewhere.

[cunicula]

I think what you mean is that unenforceable laws do not prevent crime. You cannot allow firearms within a country and not expect child murder as the necessary result.

Here in Singapore discharge or attempt to discharge a firearm is punishable by hanging. Possession of 3 or more firearms is also punishable by hanging. Toy guns are illegal. Air guns are illegal. Paintball guns are illegal. Pepper spray is illegal. Stun guns are illegal. Handcuffs are illegal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Singapore#Arms_Offences_Act

Results: Next to no gun crime. Almost no murder. Almost no violent crime.

If you want to stop violent crime, just summarily execute anyone found in possession of arms. This approach has proven effectiveness.

Exactly what fool would try to profit from crime (using guns) in Singapore? The place is a dot in the ocean. The criminals aren't "suppressed" by these ridiculous laws, they just carry on elsewhere.

Yeah, I'm sure the average criminal is quite internationally mobile. The typical US ghetto dweller is a world traveler. Regardless, encouraging criminals to 'carry on elsewhere' is one of the intentions of the law.

[Rudd-O]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuLgO4wo4xI&feature=autoshare

[hashman]

I think what you mean is that unenforceable laws do not prevent crime. You cannot allow firearms within a country and not expect child murder as the necessary result.

Here in Singapore discharge or attempt to discharge a firearm is punishable by hanging. Possession of 3 or more firearms is also punishable by hanging. Toy guns are illegal. Air guns are illegal. Paintball guns are illegal. Pepper spray is illegal. Stun guns are illegal. Handcuffs are illegal.

Results: Next to no gun crime. Almost no murder. Almost no violent crime.

If you want to stop violent crime, just summarily execute anyone found in possession of arms. This approach has proven effectiveness.

Great!  We all love summary executions I take it?  Lets just pile the bodies on the sidewalk.  I feel better already seeing a pile of corpses on the ground to know I'm safe and the police are effective.  Nothing like some bodies swinging from a tree to give me that nice secure feeling my children are growing up safe in a happy world.   

Yeah, and "posession" is totally a valid reason to kill people who have done nothing to harm others.  Provided of course you are batshit insane from a fucked up childhood.     

Him, him, him, her, and those kids.  I saw them all with guns or toy guns, so, kill them at will if you like.  Do you also recruit and train other psychos from around the world to conduct these righteous and pious hangings and summary executions?  Or is it only from the most mentally ill portion of your own population, as is more common in the western world for such institutions?     

[cunicula]

Do you also recruit and train other psychos from around the world to conduct these righteous and pious hangings and summary executions?

Yes, have you heard of the free cities project? It is a libertarian experiment. It proposes establishing a charter city in a chaotic country such as Honduras. One possibility under discussion was the contracting of the Singaporean State as sole provider law and enforcement services. The idea is that a bunch of investors hire the Singaporean military to police the place and try to attract settlers. The investors expect the land to appreciate and thus earn money off the deal.

The whole notion seems confused to me. Hire a semi-fascist state to implement law and order for a 'libertarian state.' Would that be a triumph of libertarianism or a triumph of statism?

[myrkul]

people who have done nothing to harm others.

What exactly you know about those people? Really, what the fuck you know about them? Except some shallow info from media,
which might not be true, you know about them as much as you know about random kid dying from starvation in Africa right now.

We know that they would (or at least, could) be arrested and put to death for nothing more than having over a specified amount of metal in a specific shape.