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January 17, 2017, 12:37:21 AM
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So as many of us.  Wink

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January 17, 2017, 10:59:09 PM
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Judging by how desperate everybody is for Bitcoin ASICs seems like it would be the perfect business to be in.

Huge DEMAND, very little or no supply.

You could easily create a monopoly. Too bad its very expensive to actually design and manufacteur the ASICs.

They HAVE the monopoly bro........you senile or what??

THEY have the chips.....


 Bitmain does not have a monopoly - and to my specific knowlage there are at least 5 companies with working or are working on SHA256 mining chips (I am NOT counting Innosilicon in that, they appear to have dropped the A3 for some reason - likely relating to inadaquate efficiency if it was going to be comparable to the BW.COM LK1401 chip).

 The "apparent" monopoly was all about BitMain getting to market first - and Caanan killed it with their Avalon 721 release (and now there seems to be a wave of BitFury machines FINALLY showing up for public sale to add to the "overdue" competition).

 The others (BW.COM and one I've recently become aware of but am not allowed to talk about) don't appear to be interested in selling their chips or miners to outside customers (or ONLY to large industrial-scale customers perhaps in the case of BW.COM).


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March 14, 2017, 08:35:57 PM
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Lightningasic: What is the current situation of this project?  Smiley
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March 16, 2017, 04:59:44 AM
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Judging by how desperate everybody is for Bitcoin ASICs seems like it would be the perfect business to be in.

Huge DEMAND, very little or no supply.

You could easily create a monopoly. Too bad its very expensive to actually design and manufacteur the ASICs.

They HAVE the monopoly bro........you senile or what??

THEY have the chips.....


 Bitmain does not have a monopoly - and to my specific knowlage there are at least 5 companies with working or are working on SHA256 mining chips (I am NOT counting Innosilicon in that, they appear to have dropped the A3 for some reason - likely relating to inadaquate efficiency if it was going to be comparable to the BW.COM LK1401 chip).

 The "apparent" monopoly was all about BitMain getting to market first - and Caanan killed it with their Avalon 721 release (and now there seems to be a wave of BitFury machines FINALLY showing up for public sale to add to the "overdue" competition).

 The others (BW.COM and one I've recently become aware of but am not allowed to talk about) don't appear to be interested in selling their chips or miners to outside customers (or ONLY to large industrial-scale customers perhaps in the case of BW.COM).




Did I say Bitmain?? No I did not....I inferred that CHIP makers (Bitmain IS included though) have the monopoly on miners..........

Only 2 makers are selling to the public in decent quantities.....Bitmain & Caanan.....maybe 1 or 2 others selling VERY limited amounts of miners....

What is your definition of a monopoly?? Mine is,THEY control the market,which all these makers do,since YOU cannot make your own chip....

I kinda lump all chip makers as a monopoly,cause you CANNOT mine BTC with anything except ASICs & you HAVE to buy from them & only them....

Newegg,Tiger direct,Micrcenter,etc do NOT carry ASICs.Nor do ANY stores,so again,it's a monopoly.....

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March 20, 2017, 04:10:54 AM
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Any news here?

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March 20, 2017, 10:39:47 PM
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Any news here?
Nope. Everything's moving along as it has for the last few months, unlikely anything major will pop up unless some people have secretly been working on an miner and decide to debut it soon, which is unlikely. Everybody's holed up and supposedly mining with their own private tech for now.














 

 

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March 21, 2017, 08:29:58 AM
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If only I was rich enough... I could make many wonderful things...

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March 21, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
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I get that.

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March 22, 2017, 05:08:16 AM
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Newegg,Tiger direct,Micrcenter,etc do NOT carry ASICs.Nor do ANY stores,so again,it's a monopoly.....

 Partial error, NewEgg HAS in the past carried ASIC from at least 2 manufacturers (Bitmain S7s and something else for a while late last year or early this year, and something that was badly outdated around XMas time 2015).

 I suspect that the Bitmain units were sold by Bitmain to NewEgg just to "clear the last ones out of inventory" though, as the S9 had been around for a few months by the time the S7s showed up on NewEgg.

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Newegg,Tiger direct,Micrcenter,etc do NOT carry ASICs.Nor do ANY stores,so again,it's a monopoly.....

 Partial error, NewEgg HAS in the past carried ASIC from at least 2 manufacturers (Bitmain S7s and something else for a while late last year or early this year, and something that was badly outdated around XMas time 2015).

 I suspect that the Bitmain units were sold by Bitmain to NewEgg just to "clear the last ones out of inventory" though, as the S9 had been around for a few months by the time the S7s showed up on NewEgg.



Ok,TigerDirect also sold BFL crap......but not in any kind of volume & WAY back when......

and now no one does so your point is & was moot as of this post  Cheesy

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