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January 07, 2016, 04:41:32 PM
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What does this have to do with Bitcoin again? Do we assume that people dealing in bitcoins, knows how to smuggle gold? In any way.. in the days before 911.. some people

attached "Gold" Kruger coins to the back of their watches and they smuggled it in that way. Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these

scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

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January 07, 2016, 06:37:17 PM
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... Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these
scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

I'm not so sure.  Huh
What scanner could discern a solid Iron pen form a solid gold pen? They would both be visible as a silhouette, but the scanner operator could not tell what the object is made of. Just don't melt it into the shape of a pistol. lol

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January 07, 2016, 07:42:18 PM
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... Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these
scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

I'm not so sure.  Huh
What scanner could discern a solid Iron pen form a solid gold pen? They would both be visible as a silhouette, but the scanner operator could not tell what the object is made of. Just don't melt it into the shape of a pistol. lol

I presume different metals would have a different signature under X-ray?

As gold is super dense it would probably show blacker than other metals.
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January 07, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
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... Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these
scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

I'm not so sure.  Huh
What scanner could discern a solid Iron pen form a solid gold pen? They would both be visible as a silhouette, but the scanner operator could not tell what the object is made of. Just don't melt it into the shape of a pistol. lol

I presume different metals would have a different signature under X-ray?

As gold is super dense it would probably show blacker than other metals.

Have you ever played with metal detectors? They have a feature called "discrimination". You can actually make it more or less sensitive to certain metals.

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January 07, 2016, 08:54:53 PM
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... Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these
scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

I'm not so sure.  Huh
What scanner could discern a solid Iron pen form a solid gold pen? They would both be visible as a silhouette, but the scanner operator could not tell what the object is made of. Just don't melt it into the shape of a pistol. lol

I presume different metals would have a different signature under X-ray?

As gold is super dense it would probably show blacker than other metals.

Have you ever played with metal detectors? They have a feature called "discrimination". You can actually make it more or less sensitive to certain metals.


Yep, that's my understanding as well.  The gold would "glow" more (or be blacker) than anything else the TSA guys see that day.

Pretty hard puzzle, eh?  Like I wrote at the O/P, I have thought and thought without arriving at a good procedure.

How do you get the gold onto the plane?

Let's say 20 oz, a real amount.  After all, I have brought about 1.25 oz in small coins w/ no problem, no detection in an old-fashioned coin-purse thing (like you see for sale at tourist traps).
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January 07, 2016, 09:10:12 PM
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... Now you have to remove all metal objects before you go through these
scanners, and they scan your items... so there are virtually no way to get past them.  Roll Eyes

I'm not so sure.  Huh
What scanner could discern a solid Iron pen form a solid gold pen? They would both be visible as a silhouette, but the scanner operator could not tell what the object is made of. Just don't melt it into the shape of a pistol. lol

I presume different metals would have a different signature under X-ray?

As gold is super dense it would probably show blacker than other metals.

Have you ever played with metal detectors? They have a feature called "discrimination". You can actually make it more or less sensitive to certain metals.


Yep, that's my understanding as well.  The gold would "glow" more (or be blacker) than anything else the TSA guys see that day.

Pretty hard puzzle, eh?  Like I wrote at the O/P, I have thought and thought without arriving at a good procedure.

How do you get the gold onto the plane?

Let's say 20 oz, a real amount.  After all, I have brought about 1.25 oz in small coins w/ no problem, no detection in an old-fashioned coin-purse thing (like you see for sale at tourist traps).
I see what you guys are saying and I do have a metal detector. It makes sense that a discriminator could find gold. However I'm not sure that those TSA machines are able to do this. When I try peeking at the TSA screen (we all do this I assume) I see only the shapes of metal objects. Something that would catch a handgun but could not tell you what kind of metal the gun was made of. I don't really know and I would not want to find out.

I like the coin purse Idea. Maybe you could put a shot of copper paint on the coins first? Then a little acetone to clean them up.   

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January 07, 2016, 09:10:48 PM
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I take comfort in the fact that you cant think of a way to smuggle gold on to plane.

If you could smuggle large amounts of gold undetected that means you could just as easily smuggle a gun or bomb onboard and thats in no one's best interest Smiley
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January 07, 2016, 09:18:21 PM
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The days of travelling with a suitcase (or anus) full of gold are over, I think this is where cryptos really shine in that it is not so easy for them to be pinned to you or your digital strawman if you're smart about it.
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January 07, 2016, 11:36:24 PM
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There isn't one single solution. It all depends on quantity and destination.

Some people have suggested to melt the metal, but I advise not to do that, because it would make gold much more difficult to sell, and it would only sell at a discount. If you want to sell full price, be it a coin or a bar, there must be the name of the issuer on it. If it's a large bar, there shall be a serial number, too.

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January 07, 2016, 11:52:06 PM
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Make friends with a cobbler and have him make you some steel gold toed work boots.

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January 08, 2016, 05:31:49 AM
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I take comfort in the fact that you cant think of a way to smuggle gold on to plane.

If you could smuggle large amounts of gold undetected that means you could just as easily smuggle a gun or bomb onboard and thats in no one's best interest Smiley



That's an interesting point.  Maybe the time has come for this thread's comments to end.  Maybe there is no good way to get the gold onto the plane.

I do see your point markj113.

I suppose the best solution we could hope for is gold merchants "over there" who would take Bitcoin...

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January 08, 2016, 07:04:35 AM
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There are no laws against transporting gold out of the U.S., but there are reporting requirements. Read this: http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/mark-nestmann/understand-rules-before-you-transport-precious-metals-overseas-part-i

Well shit, I honestly didn't know that this was a legit problem people face when trying to travel with gold (didn't even think about it honestly...). But this goes to show you how cryptocurrencies are insanely revolutionary in itself though. Digital "gold" that can be transferred anywhere in the world to anyone, as a form of "currency" for means of conducting business.  from the article:

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The term ‘currency’ is defined in our regulation as ‘the coin and paper money of the United States or of any other country that (1) is designated as legal tender, (2) circulates, and (3) is customarily used and accepted as a medium of exchange in the country of issuance.’ Coins or paper money must satisfy all three conditions to be considered ‘currency’; a failure to satisfy one prong means that the payment instrument is not ‘currency’ for CMIR purposes.

So no need to physically move actual gold around and instead transfer digital gold? Count me in.  The problem lies that we are still tied to the monetary system instead of having bitcoin and other cryptos backed by gold instead... now that would be a logically fit way to run a somewhat ok economy in my mind.

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January 08, 2016, 07:14:54 AM
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Use your own private jet.
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