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January 08, 2016, 02:22:44 AM
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I can´t copy paste from bloody New York Times, those wankers have some block for that, but

“All of us need to demand leaders brave enough to stand up to the gun lobby’s lies. All of us need to stand up and protect our fellow citizens,” he writes. “All of us need to demand that governors, mayors and our representatives in Congress do their part.”

Obama’s op-ed was published shortly before the President took the stage at a town hall event on guns in America hosted by CNN, and two days after he announced a series of executive actions on gun control. The two leading Democratic candidates for President, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, expressed support for the executive actions, making it unlikely that Obama’s ultimatum would affect a member of Obama’s party.

In the editorial, Obama calls gun violence a “national crisis” that requires a “national response” and listed a number of examples of what he called “common-sense” reforms, such allowing consumer safety requirements for guns, conducting more research on the public health impact of gun violence, and making it easier to bring lawsuits against manufacturers.”

The President also reiterated that all Americans have a role to play in reducing gun deaths, which he said claim more than 30,000 American lives every year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/opinion/president-barack-obama-guns-are-our-shared-responsibility.html?_r=0

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I can´t believe how he forgets to mention the survivors of all this shooting. The scores of the wounded and some of them invalid for the rest of their lives. But of course that would also point the attention to soldiers that fight for the corporate interests, not to mention the civilian victims of this war racket. So, he and other war salesmen don´t talk about too inconvenient things.

Dead is dead and that is that and it´s common sense to these people to ignore the rest of the story.

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January 08, 2016, 06:07:28 AM
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Guns don't need reformed, criminals and murderers do.

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January 08, 2016, 06:30:41 AM
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bro, you live in America. We are violent. We have a love affair with guns. People want to confront everyone they encounter because everyone they encounter may very well be a thug, at least in an American's eyes

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January 08, 2016, 07:00:12 AM
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A Commander-in-Chief’s Crying has Consequences

Poetrooper | January 7, 2016   | 54 Comments

I’ve never subscribed to that ancient admonition that real men don’t cry. I’ve witnessed men much harder and tougher than me shed tears under the stresses, frustrations and personal losses of ground combat. But when those men relaxed their emotional defenses and allowed tears to flow, it was within the relative privacy of their fire teams or squads, among those who had shared their stresses and damned well knew the man crying was no weakling. I can imagine the tears of frustration shed by those soldiers and sailors who wash out of elite programs like Ranger and SEAL training, especially those dismissed in the latter stages after they’ve endured so much, not exactly the kind of people you’d be inclined to dismiss as crybabies except at your own peril.

But what I’ve never witnessed is a commanding officer going before a parade field of massed troops and wiping away tears as he discusses new regulations he is about to implement and the reasons that necessitate the changes. And that, in effect, is what our commander-in-chief did recently in his speech about the new executive orders regarding gun control he is preparing to issue.

Obama didn’t just emote before the troops; he emoted before all the troops and their leaders massed against us all around the globe. Can you imagine how the Imams are reacting to that emotional display? How about Putin? Think he may be rethinking his options in Ukraine or the Baltic states?

Or the Norks? Sure, I know it’s a coincidence they detonated a nuclear weapon the same day as Obama’s tearful speech and I’m betting that now they’re wishing they’d waited a day to take advantage of the propaganda potential with their own people: See how the weak American president cries like a child at our glorious demonstration of socialist military might.

Even our allies must be cringing with the knowledge that this emoting wuss is what they have to rely on for their own national security. For the leaders of Israel, Ukraine, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, South Korea, it’s one thing to be assured that the most powerful military forces on the planet have your back; but when all that military might is in the hands of a leader who tears up announcing domestic policy changes, a shiver surely must go down your spine while viewing that video clip. Rewind it and watch it once more while remembering crossed red lines, unwise troop withdrawals, terrorist releases and Iranian nuclear deals and you’ll probably be wondering where you put that number for Vladimir’s personal line.

Imagine the delight among ISIS leaders watching their bête noire (no pun or racist reference intended) demonstrate that he is no Great Satan but ikely much more a mere Little Djinnie? It’s rumored the ISIS propaganda folks are producing a dubbed video of a bicycle-helmeted, mom jeans wearing dude with a putter in his hand being tossed off a building. It should have instant credibility and recruiting potential all across the region. They’ll probably be running that tape in loops at Middle Eastern television stations for the next year or so, right after the excerpts of Obama’s tearful gun control speech and followed by a reminder of Osama bin Laden’s solid Arabian horse sense.

A commander-in-chief crying has consequences, for crying out loud.

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January 08, 2016, 07:08:13 AM
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Thursday morning feel good stories


In Las Vegas, Nevada, Joey Imerti met an intruder breaking into his house at the window the criminal was using and fired two shots at the crook until his rifle misfired and the bad guy ran off.

In Little Rock, Arkansas a homeowner was injured when his wife struggled with intruders into their home. The homeowner was able to return fire and struck the crook in the chest twice, and in the legs. Both were treated for their non-life-threatening injuries.

In Alton, Illinois, an armed intruder, wearing body armor, shot himself in the hand when he got in a struggle with the resident. He was arrested for being a felon with a handgun.

Bobo sends us a link to the story of a 65-year-old woman in Manchester, New Hampshire who shot a 23-year-old who assaulted her outside her home. She says that she has owned the gun for ten years and this is the first time that she had to protect herself with it. The criminal was arraigned from his hospital bed.

UpNorth sends a link to a story which happened in Detroit, Michigan where a fellow on the street announced that he was sticking up a concealed weapon carrier, and the licensed gun owner refused to submit and sent the criminal to the hospital in critical condition.

David sends us a link to a story in Houston, Texas in which car salesman Jose Martinez was kidnapped and stuffed in the trunk of the car in which he was accompanying a person he thought was going for a test drive. Jose pulled the trunk escape latch and threw himself to the pavement. The pair of thieves went back to get him when one of them dropped his gun. Jose retrieved the firearm and shot one of the thieves. They unassed the AO and there’s no word on the condition of the target.

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January 09, 2016, 06:02:45 AM
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Let's see, the government sold guns to the Drug Lords to see where they would wind up.. So who went to jail over that? Who was responsible?
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January 09, 2016, 06:39:29 AM
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Regarding America, here is the common sense approach for a self governing (as opposed to a government governing) people.

The Preamble to the Constitution:
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What is liberty? From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberty?s=t:
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liberty
[lib-er-tee]

noun, plural liberties.
1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.

2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.

3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.

4. freedom from captivity, confinement, or physical restraint:
The prisoner soon regained his liberty.

5. permission granted to a sailor, especially in the navy, to go ashore.

6. freedom or right to frequent or use a place:
The visitors were given the liberty of the city.

7. unwarranted or impertinent freedom in action or speech, or a form or instance of it:
to take liberties.

8. a female figure personifying freedom from despotism.

When you consider the Preamble words, "... secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity ..." any government agent or official that does anything against out liberty as expressed in numbers 1 thru 4 of the definition of liberty, is acting outside his governmental capacity.

As long as I do not take the liberty from someone else, nobody has the right to take my liberty from me. As long as I am not harming and have not harmed anyone with loaded guns, anybody that takes my guns from me is acting against my liberty. Such a person is acting criminally. This person should be tried and punished... along with being made to return my property to me, and reimburse me for the time that he didn't let me enjoy my property.

If you want to accept what gun grabbers are doing, go ahead. Otherwise prosecute them. Not an issue... except that they have freedom of speech like all the rest of us.

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January 09, 2016, 08:15:46 AM
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I think Obama is up against a losing cause.
There is too much opposition to gun "reform" for it to be pushed through.
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January 09, 2016, 04:39:40 PM
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I think Obama is up against a losing cause.
There is too much opposition to gun "reform" for it to be pushed through.

When government comes for your guns, they will do it by sending in a dozen SWAT to one average gun citizen.

We need to form loosely held neighborhood gun groups that will support each other when the gun grabbers come.

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January 09, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
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But there are over 300 million guns in probably 70 million locations. Or maybe it´s even more. To confiscate even a fraction would be a huge operation. They must count on people turning in the weapons en masse voluntarily.

And since they are so concerned about public safety what are they going to confiscate next? People are unlikely to stop killing each other and themselves and have accidents involving dangerous things just because the guns are gone. Maybe murder by automobile will skyrocket.

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January 09, 2016, 05:37:21 PM
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Im not sure why americans get so defensive when any kind of gun control gets mentioned, Im pretty sure at the moment in some states suspected terrorists can freely obtain firearms legally. Should things like this be sorted to make the place safer for everyone. I know its far too late for any serious gun control in america since the place is over run with them.

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January 09, 2016, 05:59:38 PM
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Im not sure why americans get so defensive when any kind of gun control gets mentioned, Im pretty sure at the moment in some states suspected terrorists can freely obtain firearms legally. Should things like this be sorted to make the place safer for everyone. I know its far too late for any serious gun control in america since the place is over run with them.

They get so defensive because most of them distrust the government. And although there seems to be a general consensus around the world that they are the dumbest fucks on the face of the earth, they are at least smart enough to realize that just because politicians say this and that doesn´t necessarily guarantee that they mean it, They may even be masking some dubious motives.

And that is actually plenty smart in my book.
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January 09, 2016, 06:16:37 PM
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And as for terrorists buying guns, people on no-fly list - which presumably means that the government considers them a threat - can walk into a store and buy a gun. That´s right, they´re too dangerous to board a plane but they can buy guns down on the ground and run around with them. Why would you trust the government?

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JASON CHAFFETZ: Of the revoked visas, do you give those to the Department of Homeland Security?

THOREN BOND: Exactly. We revoke the visa and the information is…

CHAFFETZ: So Homeland Security, how many revoked visas are still in the United States of America?

LEON RODRIGUEZ: Mr. Chairman, I don’t have that…

CHAFFETZ: You don’t have a clue, do you? These are people committing crimes, get caught, they get convicted, they’re in your hands and Homeland Security says, “No, go back out into the community.” Some 60 plus thousand times you did that. She couldn’t even tell me if more people come in by land, by sea or by air! She thinks most people come into this country by air. And she’s in charge of screening! You can see why we’re scared to death that this administration, the Department of Homeland Security, the State Department, is not protecting the American people.

Rep. Jason Chaffetz later joined Greta Van Susteren to discuss revoked visas.

CHAFFETZ: About 122,000 over the last 10 years or so, roughly. 9,500 were revoked by the State Department because of terrorist ties.

SUSTEREN: Where are those 9,500?

CHAFFETZ: I asked them that! I said, “Can you identify them? Where are they?” They haven’t a clue, Greta. And this is where we should be focusing our law enforcement effort. I mean, think about it. They have a visa from the State Department, State Department says, “Oh we better revoke that because of terrorist ties,” but they don’t go get them! They don’t send out a dragnet and deport these people!

He would also scrutinize the “rigorous vetting process” Obama touted for each immigrant and refugee.

CHAFFETZ: We had last year 51,000 people step foot in the United States, claim asylum and there are 40 people at Homeland Security - they have 250,000 employees - only 40 of them actually vet those 50,000 and most of them do it on the telephone. There’s no way! And they’re not looking at their social media.

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Homeland Security - they have 250,000 employees - only 40 of them actually vet those 50,000 and most of them do it on the telephone. There’s no way! And they’re not looking at their social media.

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January 12, 2016, 05:05:38 AM
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One-hundred people shot in Chicago in first 10 days of 2016

Twitchy  by Brett Taylor 4:46 am

If President Obama needs a shocking gun statistic to add to his State of the Union address Tuesday night, he can point out that 100 people have been shot in Chicago in the first 10 days of the new year. If you can call it good news, only 20 percent or so of those shootings proved fatal.

lies. .@POTUS Executive Action prevents this from happening https://t.co/CZAqIVJbUd

— contrary 2 ordinary (@aGuyFromTX) January 12, 2016

It wouldn’t be the first time Obama has acknowledged the gun violence in Chicago. In his January 5 address to the nation on his executive actions on guns, just after he wiped a tear from his cheek for the children of Sandy Hook to the sound of 1,000 camera lenses, he noted that, “by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day.” We haven’t noticed him tear up yet, though. Maybe he’s just relieved to live “in a reasonably good neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago” that isn’t so dangerous.

Over 100 people shot in Chicago during first 10 days of 2016: https://t.co/4qyfmt7bZM pic.twitter.com/DJxdQso6q1

— WGN TV News (@WGNNews) January 12, 2016

“Every week there’s a story about a young person getting shot” in Chicago, the president later told CNN’s Anderson Cooper, who noted that “fifty-five people have been shot in Chicago in the last seven days.” And yes, that is why the NRA points to Chicago as an example of gun control laws not working.

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Precisely. As the president pointed out:

Well, the problem is, is that about 30, 40 percent of those guns are coming from Indiana, across the border, where there are much laxer laws. And so folks will go to a gun show and purchase a whole bunch of firearms, put them in a van, drive up into Mike Pfleger’s neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago, where his parish is, open up the trunk, and those things are for sale.

“Now, technically, you could say those folks bought them illegally,” the president confirmed.

10 days into new year, more than 100 people shot in Chicago https://t.co/qZd5oKx4Ko

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10 days into 2016 and 100 people have been shot in Chicago. We really have to do something

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This is absolutely insane: 10 days into new year, more than 100 people shot in Chicago https://t.co/ouCUBPdFGU

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The Mayor has lost totally control of Chicago, over 100 people shot in Chicago in first 10 days of 2016. Emanuel its time for you to Go!

— mel reynolds (@melreynoldsU) January 12, 2016

Agreed about the mayor, but who’s Emanuel, president of the NRA or something?

Chicago: over 100 people shot within the first 10 days of 2016…. I don't think Detroit has ever seen numbers like that…

— Rolling Stone (@FreshChester248) January 12, 2016

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One-hundred people shot in Chicago in first 10 days of 2016

Twitchy  by Brett Taylor 4:46 am

If President Obama needs a shocking gun statistic to add to his State of the Union address Tuesday night, he can point out that 100 people have been shot in Chicago in the first 10 days of the new year. If you can call it good news, only 20 percent or so of those shootings proved fatal.

lies. .@POTUS Executive Action prevents this from happening https://t.co/CZAqIVJbUd

— contrary 2 ordinary (@aGuyFromTX) January 12, 2016

It wouldn’t be the first time Obama has acknowledged the gun violence in Chicago. In his January 5 address to the nation on his executive actions on guns, just after he wiped a tear from his cheek for the children of Sandy Hook to the sound of 1,000 camera lenses, he noted that, “by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day.” We haven’t noticed him tear up yet, though. Maybe he’s just relieved to live “in a reasonably good neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago” that isn’t so dangerous.

Over 100 people shot in Chicago during first 10 days of 2016: https://t.co/4qyfmt7bZM pic.twitter.com/DJxdQso6q1

— WGN TV News (@WGNNews) January 12, 2016

“Every week there’s a story about a young person getting shot” in Chicago, the president later told CNN’s Anderson Cooper, who noted that “fifty-five people have been shot in Chicago in the last seven days.” And yes, that is why the NRA points to Chicago as an example of gun control laws not working.

REMEMBER, ACCORDING TO THE DEMOCRATS, THIS IS INDIANA'S FAULT @WGNNews

— FYI (@fyisocialnews) January 12, 2016

Precisely. As the president pointed out:

Well, the problem is, is that about 30, 40 percent of those guns are coming from Indiana, across the border, where there are much laxer laws. And so folks will go to a gun show and purchase a whole bunch of firearms, put them in a van, drive up into Mike Pfleger’s neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago, where his parish is, open up the trunk, and those things are for sale.

“Now, technically, you could say those folks bought them illegally,” the president confirmed.

10 days into new year, more than 100 people shot in Chicago https://t.co/qZd5oKx4Ko

— ChicagoBreaking (@ChicagoBreaking) January 11, 2016

10 days into 2016 and 100 people have been shot in Chicago. We really have to do something

— Prince Trilliam Abu (@PoloWill) January 12, 2016

This is absolutely insane: 10 days into new year, more than 100 people shot in Chicago https://t.co/ouCUBPdFGU

— Rev. Akil Dickens (@Akilkd) January 12, 2016

The Mayor has lost totally control of Chicago, over 100 people shot in Chicago in first 10 days of 2016. Emanuel its time for you to Go!

— mel reynolds (@melreynoldsU) January 12, 2016

Agreed about the mayor, but who’s Emanuel, president of the NRA or something?

Chicago: over 100 people shot within the first 10 days of 2016…. I don't think Detroit has ever seen numbers like that…

— Rolling Stone (@FreshChester248) January 12, 2016

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Should take all the guns away from cops for 10 days, and see if the statistic goes up or down.

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Funny that the guy who says that the people should not have guns is the most protected man in the world, with hundreds of heavily armed men dedicated to his own unique protection, and hundreds of thousands of soldiers with the best guns available under his direct command.

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I was going to bed when I remembered that I had left the light in the garage on. Was half way out the door when I saw that there were some guys carrying stuff out and loading their van.
I called the police and asked them to send a unit.
But was told that no units were available, but I should lock all the doors and they would send someone soon.
Ok I said and hung up. Two minutes later I called again and told them  "I called earlier and asked you to send a car because there are thieves in my garage. But it´s no hurry now because I went and shot the thieves, all six of them "
Within three minutes, six police cars, a helicopter, a fire truck and three ambulances arrived.
The thieves were arrested and one policeman came to me and said: "Didn´t you say that you shot those guys. You could land in trouble for misleading the police." I replied, "Didn´t you say that no units were available?"

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I can´t copy paste from bloody New York Times, those wankers have some block for that, but
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