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January 13, 2016, 10:41:47 AM |
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There's no risk factor, because l because you're not risking anything. Maybe you might be risking a little faucet payout, but who cares?
I honestly think it's something like freebitco.in. I don't consider it as gambling, and who deposits there anyway? xD
Gambling without risk isn't gambling.
i think more user deposit to freebitco.in for gamling with a dice, because the really faucet user don't play the satoshi earn, but have more player use this site only for gambling. And now, freebitco.in have add already 1 ticket to lottery free every 8500 satoshi bet to dice (this week his lottery have paud 3 btc to the first) ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Daijess
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January 13, 2016, 10:48:28 AM |
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Just make the game much more intresting i think it will work out .
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January 13, 2016, 11:35:29 AM |
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Just make the game much more intresting i think it will work out .
Not sure if you know what are you talking about, because you're spamming/farming posts. How do you suggest me to make the game more interesting? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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January 13, 2016, 11:36:45 AM |
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If there's no risk, it doesn't seem like gambling to me. Just another game.
The risk is you waste your time and life is finite. You either waste time because you dont make any profit or you waste time because you could have found more entertainment elsewhere. You're not risking to lose your life though, lol. Nope you have 70 whatever years on average if you are lucky so you only lose your life if you spend your whole time grinding faucets haha. People only waste their time for so long and then reality sets in and they have to change tactics. I'm not that certain that even faucet grinders will be interested in this one, atleast not for long because 80-ish satoshi per claim is much lower than dice sites offer to people at most basic levels. If they would make an android app, on the other hand, there's a chance people would use it when bored, but even that is a stretch claim. Guess time will tell tho.. Faucet grinders are stuck in some mental pattern where they want to find a way to make easy money for not much thought and without leaving the house. Its a worthy goal but even if successful for a period you'd probably have to adapt very soon after since sites will catch on.
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January 13, 2016, 11:41:57 AM |
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If you're getting free coins from a faucet, and that site has a casino, which DOESN'T allow you to deposit ANY funds, is it considered as gambling if you use/play any of those games?
Been trying to figure out this thing for a week, but there's so much contradiction for both answers, so I am not sure how to pick "the right" answer, if there is one.
IMO it is still gambling even if you do not deposit a cent. As other commentators pointed out you "depositing" your time and the time is money. Anothter question whether a government considers it gambling and therefore blocks the site in the areas where gambling is prohibited?
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January 13, 2016, 11:49:42 AM |
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I consider it gambling. Some people said that there are no risk factor as you got that BTC for free. In my opinion it doesn't matter if you got that money for free or if you did something for that (actually watching ads falls to the "doing something" category). That money is already yours, you can withdraw it if you want, but if you risking your very own sats by playing there, then that's gambling.
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January 13, 2016, 11:59:52 AM |
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I consider it gambling. Some people said that there are no risk factor as you got that BTC for free. In my opinion it doesn't matter if you got that money for free or if you did something for that (actually watching ads falls to the "doing something" category). That money is already yours, you can withdraw it if you want, but if you risking your very own sats by playing there, then that's gambling.
It's more gaming, than gambling to me. You can call ordinary "gaming" on steam gambling as well, since you're investing your money in games which are made 10000% to waste your time and bring you 0 profit. Because even if you sell your items in those games, it's illegal and you can get banned. So, you're risking to lose your investment.
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January 13, 2016, 12:11:41 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
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January 13, 2016, 12:14:56 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
What if time doesn't exist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quantum “Theory” Proves That Time Does Not Exist, at the fundamental level and shows that our concept of time, as thought of as a linear passage of events is totally wide of the mark, and in fact there is no mark.
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January 13, 2016, 12:26:30 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
What if time doesn't exist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quantum “Theory” Proves That Time Does Not Exist, at the fundamental level and shows that our concept of time, as thought of as a linear passage of events is totally wide of the mark, and in fact there is no mark.
Interesting thought there. U want to discuss about theories and stuff in gambling section ya ? -.- So if time doesn't exist and there is no mark then what is the alternative measurement. we are not moving along time-space axis ? give me some reference to your statement to look up then we might need to start a topic elsewhere my friend.. it will be a big discussion.
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January 13, 2016, 12:31:10 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
What if time doesn't exist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quantum “Theory” Proves That Time Does Not Exist, at the fundamental level and shows that our concept of time, as thought of as a linear passage of events is totally wide of the mark, and in fact there is no mark.
Interesting thought there. U want to discuss about theories and stuff in gambling section ya ? -.- So if time doesn't exist and there is no mark then what is the alternative measurement. we are not moving along time-space axis ? give me some reference to your statement to look up then we might need to start a topic elsewhere my friend.. it will be a big discussion. Everyone is telling his own theory, so I'm telling my own theory. If we agree with Einstein's theory, that everything is relative, then sure, it doesn't exist. "Time" is man made measurement which doesn't exist in the nature/universe. But you're 100% right, this discussion can go waaaay far if we start talking about Quantum theories.
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January 13, 2016, 12:52:39 PM |
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Everyone is telling his own theory, so I'm telling my own theory.
If we agree with Einstein's theory, that everything is relative, then sure, it doesn't exist.
"Time" is man made measurement which doesn't exist in the nature/universe.
But you're 100% right, this discussion can go waaaay far if we start talking about Quantum theories.
Yes lol great to see some physics used in gambling, and if you just read the thread title, you would get confused, as why will someone pay you to gamble ?
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January 13, 2016, 01:07:57 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
What if time doesn't exist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quantum “Theory” Proves That Time Does Not Exist, at the fundamental level and shows that our concept of time, as thought of as a linear passage of events is totally wide of the mark, and in fact there is no mark.
Interesting thought there. U want to discuss about theories and stuff in gambling section ya ? -.- So if time doesn't exist and there is no mark then what is the alternative measurement. we are not moving along time-space axis ? give me some reference to your statement to look up then we might need to start a topic elsewhere my friend.. it will be a big discussion. Everyone is telling his own theory, so I'm telling my own theory. If we agree with Einstein's theory, that everything is relative, then sure, it doesn't exist. "Time" is man made measurement which doesn't exist in the nature/universe. But you're 100% right, this discussion can go waaaay far if we start talking about Quantum theories. I would like to have that discussion if ur willing to. i am currently working a junior research fellow in an nanotechnology institution and heck i love science !!
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January 13, 2016, 01:57:53 PM |
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Yup, it's considered as a gambling. Even though you're not spending your money, but you're wasting your time. Time = Money So if you are theoretically spending your money
What if time doesn't exist? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Quantum “Theory” Proves That Time Does Not Exist, at the fundamental level and shows that our concept of time, as thought of as a linear passage of events is totally wide of the mark, and in fact there is no mark.
Interesting thought there. U want to discuss about theories and stuff in gambling section ya ? -.- So if time doesn't exist and there is no mark then what is the alternative measurement. we are not moving along time-space axis ? give me some reference to your statement to look up then we might need to start a topic elsewhere my friend.. it will be a big discussion. Everyone is telling his own theory, so I'm telling my own theory. If we agree with Einstein's theory, that everything is relative, then sure, it doesn't exist. "Time" is man made measurement which doesn't exist in the nature/universe. But you're 100% right, this discussion can go waaaay far if we start talking about Quantum theories. time exist or not, still can convert to money anyway. put those theories here is completely off-topic and ridiculous, wrong direction. i don't believe that u guys even can't see it for yourselves.
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January 13, 2016, 02:47:41 PM |
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Yes, you are gambling - gambling for free essentially. That money was given to you for free. It is now yours and you gamble it. Any winnings are yours. If you lose, you lose that money that was given to you for free.
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January 13, 2016, 06:00:18 PM |
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It's of course gambling because you "earned" that money doing something, and even if the process was "passive" it became your money at that point, the same kind of money you earn in your daily job even if it's a very small fraction of it. And then you decide to gamble it. That's it. There's nothing wrong with gambling though, just enjoy yourself and don't bet what you can afford to lose, really, consider that money gone, similar as if you would pay for a movie ticket. It's all entertainment.
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January 13, 2016, 06:25:06 PM |
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With the only difference, casinos rig their games to favor them. Not the players/users. In this case, my site is rigged to favor the users/players, not the site ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Playing a dice game with a normal 1% house edge is a gamble, but it is still a gamble even if it has a jackpot that is huge enough to make the game to give a positive EV. So I think your site should still be considered as a gambling site.
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January 13, 2016, 06:26:21 PM |
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With the only difference, casinos rig their games to favor them. Not the players/users. In this case, my site is rigged to favor the users/players, not the site ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Playing a dice game with a normal 1% house edge is a gamble, but it is still a gamble even if it has a jackpot that is huge enough to make the game to give a positive EV. So I think your site should still be considered as a gambling site. Would it be still gambling if the house edge was 0%?
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January 13, 2016, 06:44:02 PM |
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With the only difference, casinos rig their games to favor them. Not the players/users. In this case, my site is rigged to favor the users/players, not the site ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Playing a dice game with a normal 1% house edge is a gamble, but it is still a gamble even if it has a jackpot that is huge enough to make the game to give a positive EV. So I think your site should still be considered as a gambling site. Would it be still gambling if the house edge was 0%? When Primedice 3 first rolled out, it had a PvP page allowing players to gamble against each other and PD took nothing from it (no fee or commission). IMHO, it is still gambling when the house edge is 0% because you are still risking some money for some profit.
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January 13, 2016, 07:31:16 PM |
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I think I have seen this in actual casinos, or at least there was a rumor that in some Vegas casinos they paid some people to stand in some of the machines and just keep rolling all day, because when people saw other people playing, then the people outside would be more inclined to join too, just to make it look more crowded than it was. I think this is actually a good idea for new casinos to get the ball rolling. Successful casinos don't need this as they get legit clients all the time.
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