Gavineries

[iCEBREAKER]

your buddy icebreaker quickly dumped his National Front banner. Why was that?  Not quite the quisling you hoped for?

Don't ask other people to speak for me.  If you have a question, be a brave boy and ask me directly.

I've only changed my avatar once, for the duration of the last French election, in honor of those slain by invaders in Paris.

It's over, so now the Classic avatar is back.

Sputter all the Far-Left Spartacist boilerplate defamation you want.  Marion is going to finish the job her grandfather and aunt began.

All you tranzis and pinko types are going to be driven back to Brussels, where you belong.

The avenging angel of French liberty is rising; I hope you choke on your bilious jealousy and impotent rage.

Go cry to Frau Merkel if you like, but there is nothing you can to do stop her.

[sAt0sHiFanClub]

your buddy icebreaker quickly dumped his National Front banner. Why was that?  Not quite the quisling you hoped for?

Don't ask other people to speak for me.  If you have a question, be a brave boy and ask me directly.

I've only changed my avatar once, for the duration of the last French election, in honor of those slain by invaders in Paris.

Im sure Parisians can sleep at night knowing you have their back....




already asked you directly here

[pogress]

I always think of a classic version of any software as the oldest version that it began with... It doesn't seem right using classic to describe a new version/fork of a wallet.

The point of Bitcoin Classic is indeed follow the original Bitcoin vision and dont adding new planned Bitcoin Core features going against this. Bitcoin Core attempt to ignore majority view and the censorship of its supporteers really shed bad light on Bitcoin, but luckilly the situation is resolved before features like RBF were implemented. It is clear Blockstream devs cannot expect such features will be added to Bitcoin anymore.

BTW brilliant move to get support from all major Bitcoin players to follow original Bitcoin vision from now on again, definitivelly yesterday will come to Bitcoin history as very important day when the attempt of censorship and overtaking the Bitcoin project to Blockstream goals ended.

[notbatman]

Keeping track and discussing the Chief Scientist "Gavineries".


Some referenced list would have included:

- Meeting with CIA
- Association with bankrupted "Bitcoin Foundation" and renown scammers a la Mark Karpelese
- MIT eg. US Gov payroll
- Hearnia wingman in contentious social engineered fork attempt branded as "Bitcoin XT"


And the last to date: yet another Bitcoin fork branded as "Bitcoin Classic"..

https://bitcoinclassic.com/

Note one of his new "partner in crime":





Spice it up with Cryptsy's unsurprising EXIT SCAM:

http://www.imediaconnection.com/profiles/iMedia_PC_Bio.aspx?ID=66373



http://insidebitcoins.com/chicago/2015/speakers

Thank you Gavin, but no thank you.

Don't forget his meeting with the CFR!

Oh, and Bitcoin Classic, sounds like a new brand of fags; smoke 'em if you got 'em!

[Denker]

Please rename the title to fit the discussion. Some could argue that it doesn't matter who is behind the code, but it does even though Bitcoin is trustless. If there is going to be a switch of the developers, then we need people who are better than the current ones; not suspicious and controversial. Also the signatures by bad actors (e.g. Long) are worthless.

Beside that I never would run a client anymore where Gavin is head of, crooks like Marshall Long make me even more stay away from it.
And yes like someone else has already posted it seems to be the typical strategy of divide and conquer. Now where XT has failed this is attempt number two.

By the way has any of you guys read the report of Rand Corporation?

The report suggests that the U.S. Department of Defense should disrupt decentralized digital currencies to prevent “unprecedented global access to information and communication services that, at its core, is agnostic to the national security interests of the United States.”

The RAND report goes one step further and suggests that governments should use advanced technical means to actively disrupt virtual currencies. That includes terrorist groups, but also peaceful deployments of digital currencies by other non-state actors, and a general war on privacy and encryption.

http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1231/RAND_RR1231.pdf

[siameze]

Keeping track and discussing the Chief Scientist "Gavineries".


Some referenced list would have included:

- Meeting with CIA
- Association with bankrupted "Bitcoin Foundation" and renown scammers a la Mark Karpelese
- MIT eg. US Gov payroll
- Hearnia wingman in contentious social engineered fork attempt branded as "Bitcoin XT"

I always found it quite interesting that Satoshi vanished right after Gavin announced his meeting with the CIA. Coincidence?

[onemorexmr]

Keeping track and discussing the Chief Scientist "Gavineries".


Some referenced list would have included:

- Meeting with CIA
- Association with bankrupted "Bitcoin Foundation" and renown scammers a la Mark Karpelese
- MIT eg. US Gov payroll
- Hearnia wingman in contentious social engineered fork attempt branded as "Bitcoin XT"

I always found it quite interesting that Satoshi vanished right after Gavin announced his meeting with the CIA. Coincidence?

probably not a coincidence.
but thinking gavin works together with CIA to harm bitcoin is a stretch IMHO

[hdbuck]

Don't forget his meeting with the CFR!

Oh, and Bitcoin Classic, sounds like a new brand of fags; smoke 'em if you got 'em!

CFR gavinerie added to the list!

Please rename the title to fit the discussion. Some could argue that it doesn't matter who is behind the code, but it does even though Bitcoin is trustless. If there is going to be a switch of the developers, then we need people who are better than the current ones; not suspicious and controversial. Also the signatures by bad actors (e.g. Long) are worthless.

Sorry, I found the name quite fitting the discussion about all the actions gavin will/has undertook to discredit himself and bring cryptoshame to his name.

Gavineries:

Keeping track and discussing the Chief Scientist "Gavineries".


Some referenced list would have included:

- Meeting with CIA
- Association with bankrupted "Bitcoin Foundation" and renown scammers a la Mark Karpelese
- MIT eg. US Gov payroll
- Hearnia wingman in contentious social engineered fork attempt branded as "Bitcoin XT"

I always found it quite interesting that Satoshi vanished right after Gavin announced his meeting with the CIA. Coincidence?

probably not a coincidence.
but thinking gavin works together with CIA to harm bitcoin is a stretch IMHO

No coincidence, he even admitted it himself:

Gavin had just received the alert keys to the Bitcoin network. Right afterwards, he tells Satoshi that he is visiting the CIA. Satoshi leaves for good coincidentally.

This is quoted from the defunct Bruce Wagner Bitcoin podcast:

Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding


Based on this, do you think Gavin fully meets Satoshi's vision for Bitcoin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113609.0


You just don't friendly chitchat with the CIA.. And it is even more critical when involving such disruptive technology as Bitcoin.
Taking a coffee break and counting flowers with them would be much more of a stretch imo.

[siameze]

No coincidence, he even admitted it himself:

Gavin had just received the alert keys to the Bitcoin network. Right afterwards, he tells Satoshi that he is visiting the CIA. Satoshi leaves for good coincidentally.

This is quoted from the defunct Bruce Wagner Bitcoin podcast:

Bruce Wagner : When was the last time you chatted to satoshi <laugh>
Gavin Andresen: Um... I haven't had email from satoshi in a couple months actually. The last email I sent him I actually told him I was going to talk at the CIA. So it's possible , that.... that may have um had something to with his deciding


Based on this, do you think Gavin fully meets Satoshi's vision for Bitcoin?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113609.0

Ah! thanks for the link to that. I still cannot fathom how Gavin expected a meeting with the fucking CIA would help advance the cause at all?

Was Satoshi filled with regret, saying to himself "Why the fuck did I ever trust this nitwit?"

[QuestionAuthority]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

[bhodson]

I've only been following bitcoin for the last 6 months.  I am guessing that Satoshi is shaking his head in disbelief when observing what Gavin is trying to do to Bitcoin.

[keepdoing]

reserved for links and references.

Here's a reference for ya Llama boy! 

https://bitcoinclassic.com/
Ka BOOM!

* world is back to normal, progress again being made, blockstream hijaakers being rounded up for a good drobbing of ridicule!

I love this new approach that the shilling, lying, manipulating blockstream fanboys have taken.... now we are expected to believe that a simple jump from 1mb > 2mb (which has huge support throughout the community) is a plot by the CIA.

https://bitcoinclassic.com/   <<< BACK to the future!  (by back, I mean, putting Bitcoin BACK on the original path Satoshi intended, rescued from the Blockstream Hijaakers)

[Lauda]

Meh, I was against Andresen before it was cool. Actually, I started many years ago and it was met by a lynch mob of Gavin homosexual fanboys. I still have the rope burns on my neck. You may as well leave Napoleon Bitaparte alone now. He's outed himself time and time again. I don't think anyone is missing who he really is at this point.

There was a time where I used to "trust" (might not be the right word) his opinions. Even back when he suggested 20 MB blocks; this was probably because I misunderstood everything related to the block size debate just as many do today. Over time one could easily see that he can't be trusted as he used to. 20 MB would have definitely harmed the system that we are using right now.

I've only been following bitcoin for the last 6 months.  I am guessing that Satoshi is shaking his head in disbelief when observing what Gavin is trying to do to Bitcoin.

Most likely. He left the project to the wrong person; luckily he's not in charge of the Core project anymore.

Beside that I never would run a client anymore where Gavin is head of, crooks like Marshall Long make me even more stay away from it.
And yes like someone else has already posted it seems to be the typical strategy of divide and conquer. Now where XT has failed this is attempt number two.

You probably forgot about Bitcoin Unlimited. This is attempt number three.

[Kprawn]

Gavin's choice on partners leave a lot of open questions.... At first it was Hearn with XT and now it's Long with suppository Bitcoin Classic?  What is he thinking... 

I kind of liked Gavin, when he was one of the Lead developers of Bitcoin Core, but his head grew a little and I think he lost the plot.

Satoshi saw something in him, and we should respect that, but people change and we have to realize and accept that too.. I always look for the good in people and that might be

my downfall some day.   

[Bergmann_Christoph]

reserved for links and references.

Here's a reference for ya Llama boy!  

https://bitcoinclassic.com/
Ka BOOM!

* world is back to normal, progress again being made, blockstream hijaakers being rounded up for a good drobbing of ridicule!

I love this new approach that the shilling, lying, manipulating blockstream fanboys have taken.... now we are expected to believe that a simple jump from 1mb > 2mb (which has huge support throughout the community) is a plot by the CIA.

https://bitcoinclassic.com/   <<< BACK to the future!  (by back, I mean, putting Bitcoin BACK on the original path Satoshi intended, rescued from the Blockstream Hijaakers)

++

I love how even core distances itself from bitcoin.org and accepts multiple clients. The authorative, in-eloquent, aggressive, hate-spreading small block militia is left without masters. What will those poor kids do, when they find out that there is nobody who hugs and pats them for their media-engagement?

[Bergmann_Christoph]

And yes like someone else has already posted it seems to be the typical strategy of divide and conquer. Now where XT has failed this is attempt number two.

You probably forgot about Bitcoin Unlimited. This is attempt number three.

Neither XT nor Unlimited have failed. They are here if they are needed. If the growth in transactions slows down and Core's approach is early successfull, they will not be needed. But as soon as the highway is full, mempool growths continuosly and core's approaches fail you'll be thankfull for every alternative client that saves bitcoin.

(this said, classic may have chosen the wrong timing to come out. Otherwise they can now built a community and develop an own roadmap to be prepared when / if the need for some alternative to core will be urgent)

[Zarathustra]

reserved for links and references.

Here's a reference for ya Llama boy!  

https://bitcoinclassic.com/
Ka BOOM!

* world is back to normal, progress again being made, blockstream hijaakers being rounded up for a good drobbing of ridicule!

I love this new approach that the shilling, lying, manipulating blockstream fanboys have taken.... now we are expected to believe that a simple jump from 1mb > 2mb (which has huge support throughout the community) is a plot by the CIA.

https://bitcoinclassic.com/   <<< BACK to the future!  (by back, I mean, putting Bitcoin BACK on the original path Satoshi intended, rescued from the Blockstream Hijaakers)

++

I love how even core distances itself from bitcoin.org and accepts multiple clients. The authorative, in-eloquent, aggressive, hate-spreading small block militia is left without masters. What will those poor kids do, when they find out that there is nobody who hugs and pats them for their media-engagement?

Then they still have their 'Geliebte Führerin':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325375.msg13536859#msg13536859

“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.” Arthur Schopenhauer

[Bergmann_Christoph]

reserved for links and references.

Here's a reference for ya Llama boy!  

https://bitcoinclassic.com/
Ka BOOM!

* world is back to normal, progress again being made, blockstream hijaakers being rounded up for a good drobbing of ridicule!

I love this new approach that the shilling, lying, manipulating blockstream fanboys have taken.... now we are expected to believe that a simple jump from 1mb > 2mb (which has huge support throughout the community) is a plot by the CIA.

https://bitcoinclassic.com/   <<< BACK to the future!  (by back, I mean, putting Bitcoin BACK on the original path Satoshi intended, rescued from the Blockstream Hijaakers)

++

I love how even core distances itself from bitcoin.org and accepts multiple clients. The authorative, in-eloquent, aggressive, hate-spreading small block militia is left without masters. What will those poor kids do, when they find out that there is nobody who hugs and pats them for their media-engagement?

Then they still have their 'Geliebte Führerin':

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1325375.msg13536859#msg13536859

Hehe ... Marie will be the first to bann bitcoin, cause it's new and alien and unknown and she and none of their fanboys understand it.

As it is, our small block militia seems neither to understand bitcoin nor their 'Geliebte Führerin'

But I'm sure they'll promote the plan to restrict travel in the metro to 2-3 passengers / second (to protect the historical metro, and because without this nobody will pay for a ticket, etc.)

[hdbuck]

fuck. shitposters spamming the discussion.

[Bergmann_Christoph]

fuck. shitposters spamming the discussion.

 

You really call that ... a discussion? The dissonance is great with you, my boy