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Author Topic: ckpool vs btc.com? which one should i choose ?  (Read 419 times)
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March 03, 2019, 07:26:39 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:18:15 AM by frodocooper
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things to consider :

1> i can wait for payout upto a month no problem
2> prefer coin base generated coins
3> around 860 TH/s

but i don't want to loose profits, which is best pool and most profitable considering i get frequent power outage.

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March 03, 2019, 08:10:25 PM
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Definitely not BTC.com, Antpool, or any other Bitmain pool with a high fee and SPV mining.

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March 03, 2019, 08:35:07 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:19:07 AM by frodocooper
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I would have some with pool.ckpool and some with viabtc pps+ payment.

You reduce risk with viabtc
You get better payments with pool.ckpool.org

I would balance the two.

Say 460th on one
And 400th on the other.

Both pools I picked will not punish you severely for dropping out a hour or two here and there.

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March 03, 2019, 08:38:10 PM
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Is there a reason you have settled on those pools?

I could understand the question, if say you were only comparing pools that share the entire block reward including the transaction fees.

Then it comes down to fees, pool size for payment frequency.

Have you looked into say kano or slush.


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March 03, 2019, 10:23:55 PM
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I would definitely suggest you choose a pool where you can at least verify if people were paid more or less ...

Though wanting a coinbase payout means the pool needs to send a larger than normal coinbase to all miners on the pool and a larger than normal coinbase transaction out to the network when they find a block.
When a pool finds a block, only the coinbase transaction isn't known on the network - the rest of the transactions in the block are usually known by all the large pools.
Using a coinbase payout can increase stales and orphans (i.e. lost blocks)

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March 04, 2019, 03:41:37 AM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:20:07 AM by frodocooper
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Since you want payments under a month, Kano pool. As long as ckpool remains with 8PH/s, payments will take more than 1 month. Do note ckpool does not pay on every block unless you are in the top 100.

If you had 1 EH/s at your disposal, i would tell you ckpool hands down, because of the 0% fee. But nearly an extra PH/s isn't going to make much difference. Kano.is is paying around 4 times per month with 40PH/s, and is therefore the next best in my opinion.

You have to take into account variance when using PPLNS pools, do not run your operation spending everything you earn, you have to save when there is good luck to compensate when there is bad luck. A PPS pool will do that for you at the expense of even higher fees. I think btc is like 4% in PPS or 2% in PPLNS mode.

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March 04, 2019, 09:32:40 AM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:22:10 AM by frodocooper
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Definitely not BTC.com, Antpool, or any other Bitmain pool with a high fee and SPV mining.

i am google what is SPV mining ? and why i should prefer pool with high fees ? i think pool with low fees are good.



Since you want payments under a month, Kano pool. As long as ckpool remains with 8PH/s, payments will take more than 1 month. Do note ckpool does not pay on every block unless you are in the top 100.

If you had 1 EH/s at your disposal, i would tell you ckpool hands down, because of the 0% fee. But nearly an extra PH/s isn't going to make much difference. Kano.is is paying around 4 times per month with 40PH/s, and is therefore the next best in my opinion.

You have to take into account variance when using PPLNS pools, do not run your operation spending everything you earn, you have to save when there is good luck to compensate when there is bad luck. A PPS pool will do that for you at the expense of even higher fees. I think btc is like 4% in PPS or 2% in PPLNS mode.

thanks for your detailed explanation, but i prefer anonymous mining. i checked kanopool i think its just like btc.com where i need username

in ckpool i am in 3rd position, but since i close my farm for 4 hours at peek electric rate my average hashrate drops, would that harm me in long run ?



I would have some with pool.ckpool and some with viabtc pps+ payment

You reduce risk with viabtc
You get better payments with pool.ckpool.org

I would balance the two.

Say 460th on one
And 400th on the other.

Both pools I picked will not punish you serverly for dropping out a hour or two here and there.

can you please share url for viabtc ? i see lot of sites want to make sure i am not phished.

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March 04, 2019, 09:34:38 AM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:22:57 AM by frodocooper
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i am google what is SPV mining ? and why i should prefer pool with high fees ? i think pool with low fees are good

I said that you should definitely not choose a pool which has a high fee and does SPV mining (mining empty blocks without no or close to no transactions).

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March 04, 2019, 10:16:38 AM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:23:36 AM by frodocooper
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thanks for your detailed explaination, but i prefer anonymous mining. i checked kanopool i think its just like btc.com where i need username...

Hmmm - you probably missed reading this near the top of the front web page Tongue

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March 04, 2019, 03:16:17 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:24:55 AM by frodocooper
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can you please share url for viabtc ? i see lot of sites want to make sure i am not phished

Pool.viabtc.com

thanks for your detailed explaination, but i prefer anonymous mining. i checked kanopool i think its just like btc.com where i need username

in ckpool i am in 3rd position, but since i close my farm for 4 hours at peek electric rate my average hashrate drops, would that harm me in long run ?

On ckpool and on viabtc if you are mining 20 hours a day you get 20/24.

Which is exactly fair some pools crush you for mining 20 hours on and 4 hours off.

Slush hurts you if your gear is turned off when they hit a block.

I personally use ckpool and viabtc.

If I managed your farm I would blend both pools.

While I have been in a months long arguement with Kano.is his pool is okay.

But margins are tight so all Kano or all ckpool are risky due to variance.

Viabtc will pay 97% every day.  So they charge more fee for certain payment.

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March 04, 2019, 04:36:04 PM
Last edit: March 05, 2019, 01:25:28 AM by frodocooper
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i did 90% hashrate to ckpool
10% to viabtc

its a test, i thank you for you time for detailed explained answer !

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