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January 15, 2016, 05:05:23 PM
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jesus not god .

Guys: with comments like that you force me to change this thread from free to comment to self-moderated.

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January 15, 2016, 05:18:24 PM
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Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.

Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.
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January 15, 2016, 05:20:02 PM
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Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.

Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.

That is a comment!

That made me understand where all this fuss is coming from.

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January 15, 2016, 05:23:06 PM
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jesus not god .

(Jesus, son of Mary, is only a Messenger of God, His Word, and a spirit from Him whom He conveyed to Mary) he is the prophet of god and prophet means messenger of god who give messages of god to people.
1- A proximate angel of Allah’s who delivers Allah’s message to the prophets.Example.
2- A divine book
3- Aid from the unseen from Allah to His servants.
4- One of the characteristics of Prophet Isa.

Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.

Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.

How can you say that ? if i say that Christianity is a religion of violence .I just give money to some peoples and give guns in there hand and ask them to kill people and if they get captured they tell that they are related from Christianity . I guess you have'nt watch this video please watch this . http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735806/islam-isis-violent
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January 15, 2016, 05:24:45 PM
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jesus not god .

(Jesus, son of Mary, is only a Messenger of God, His Word, and a spirit from Him whom He conveyed to Mary) he is the prophet of god and prophet means messenger of god who give messages of god to people.
1- A proximate angel of Allah’s who delivers Allah’s message to the prophets.Example.
2- A divine book
3- Aid from the unseen from Allah to His servants.
4- One of the characteristics of Prophet Isa.

Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.


Then you meant: Jesus is not God.

Your sentence was grammatically wrong.


Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.

How can you say that ? if i say that Christianity is a religion of violence .I just give money to some peoples and give guns in there hand and ask them to kill people and if they get captured they tell that they are related from Christianity . I guess you have'nt watch this video please watch this . http://www.vox.com/2015/11/14/9735806/islam-isis-violent

You have a valid point: I didn't want to distinguish Christianity from Islam from subjective content (violence) I wanted to distinguish them from an objective content.

Objective content: Muslims worship a stone (idolatry), Christians do not.

Is the Black Stone the representation of God on Earth?


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January 15, 2016, 05:31:34 PM
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Once again you need to look up the definiton of religion (as posted above) and point out how (through the definition of religion) you can't worship a rock. If you believe a rock is a superhuman controlling power and worship it, then by the very definition you have a religion.
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January 15, 2016, 05:34:08 PM
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Once again you need to look up the definiton of religion (as posted above) and point out how (through the definition of religion) you can't worship a rock. If you believe a rock is a superhuman controlling power and worship it, then by the very definition you have a religion.

Religion: a set of dogmas on Faith.

There is no God on the definition of Religion.

You can call a stone God and worship that God and call that worshipping a religion (by your definition of Religion), than I can call you a stupid.

Definition of stupid: you.

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January 15, 2016, 05:37:42 PM
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"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"
- Ex 20:3

Idolatry is the worship of an idol or a physical object as a representation of a god.
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry

Muslims worship the Black Stone... why?
Ref: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pietra_Nera

If the Black Stone is the representation of God on Earth... Islam can be indicated as idolatry and hence been categorized not as Religion but as a sin.

What do you think?

Is the Black Stone the representation of God on Earth?


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I think that Christianity, Islamism and Judaism all have the same God.

Islam is a religion as much as Judaism and Catholicism.

 
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From what I understood, Islam is derived from a cult that worshiped the moon. And the black stone is part of a statue from that time that represented that moon deity.

Still - all religions have idols, and when you ask priests, teachers etc. what does that mean they say that it is only a symbol - they always mislead you and turn words around to mess with your head and try to convince you that what they say is right. Which, of course, always led to the greatest conflicts and loss of life in every era.

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January 15, 2016, 05:39:35 PM
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Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.

Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.

Violence is subjective, worshipping a stone is objective.


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January 15, 2016, 05:42:09 PM
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Failed troll attempt, Islam is the last religion by the book of God. Bible says there will be one more religion to come and every people should convert them. If you don't read book you don't know.

Islam is a religion of violence. All violence is from the Devil.

Violence is subjective, worshipping a stone is objective.


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16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Matthew 7:16 (KJV)
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January 15, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
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I think that Christianity, Islamism and Judaism all have the same God.

Islam is a religion as much as Judaism and Catholicism.



A religion is a set of dogmas on faith (definition).

If you call Religion a Religion that does worship a thing (idolatry, Islam... that is what I'm trying to understand here) you can infer that idolatry is not a sin.

That is wrong.

Islam has the same God as much as Judaism and Catholicism. Islam is not the same religion of Judaism and Catholicism is not the same religion of Judaism.


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January 15, 2016, 05:45:18 PM
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16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
Matthew 7:16 (KJV)

"Excatly" (wrong):
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me"
- Ex 20:3 

I'm citing the old testament: I want this understanding come into the Old Testament not on the new one.

Thank You for your comment.


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January 15, 2016, 05:47:13 PM
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I think that what sase007 was trying to say is that there is only one God and the different religions interpret God through their own experiences.
And also that Islam is a religion in the broader sense of the word not that these three religions he mentioned are the same.

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You can call a stone God and worship that God and call that worshipping a religion (by your definition of Religion), than I can call you a stupid.

Definition of stupid: you.

Do you like it?

What a waste of time. Resorting to calling people stupid. You're not asking a question at this point you're just looking for people to agree with your point of view. Anyone that objects to your point of view is called stupid. Wish a moderator would just toss this post into the trash where it belongs.
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You can call a stone God and worship that God and call that worshipping a religion (by your definition of Religion), than I can call you a stupid.

Definition of stupid: you.

Do you like it?

What a waste of time. Resorting to calling people stupid. You're not asking a question at this point you're just looking for people to agree with your point of view. Anyone that objects to your point of view is called stupid. Wish a moderator would just toss this post into the trash where it belongs.
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Agreed, I didn't want to say anything but it's like saying that I find your wife ugly, even though she is beautiful or she isn't and you see her as beautiful - negative comments like that are not constructive. If you don't agree with that user's point of view say so but try to understand his point of view and let him believe what he wants and you the same.

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You can call a stone God and worship that God and call that worshipping a religion (by your definition of Religion), than I can call you a stupid.

Definition of stupid: you.

Do you like it?

What a waste of time. Resorting to calling people stupid. You're not asking a question at this point you're just looking for people to agree with your point of view. Anyone that objects to your point of view is called stupid. Wish a moderator would just toss this post into the trash where it belongs.

What a waste of time reading post of an individual that just call you stupid because you mention the word stupid.

If you don't have constructive comments to do please avoid comments in the first place.


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January 15, 2016, 06:03:23 PM
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Guys: if you accept the definition of Religion with the word God in it
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re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.

Once again you need to look up the definiton of religion (as posted above) and point out how (through the definition of religion) you can't worship a rock. If you believe a rock is a superhuman controlling power and worship it, then by the very definition you have a religion.

You will come to a conclusion that worshipping a stone is acceptable.

The definition of religion has not the word God in it.
Religion: a set of dogmas on Faith.


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BitNow, your English is improving. You should be patient with kama. He doesn't have very good English at all. Perhaps you should learn Arabic for him.

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BitNow, your English is improving. You should be patient with kama. He doesn't have very good English at all. Perhaps you should learn Arabic for him.

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What is your definition of Religion BADecker?


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