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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. |
"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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March 25, 2016, 11:34:37 PM |
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Sheep will always need a leader, but at least we should choose the right ones this time.
... You'd think so, but you'd be wrong. Bitcoiners are a special sort of sheep -- sheep who, much like yourself, don't think of themselves as sheep. Bitcoiners are anti-authoritarian, wild, angsty, edgy, rebellious sheep! Sheep who identify with lions, think that if it wasn't for their shepherd, they themselves would be lions. These sheep will not be led  |
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chek2fire
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March 25, 2016, 11:35:18 PM |
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If you kick out individuals then you are already a form of a government.
Well, yes. Bitcoin would not only start losing its decentralization, it would also lose its censorship resistance. I doubt that anyone would want to use it at that point. If classic implements blacklists, then they will assume the position of governors of bitcoin ,and then it will become centralized.
Honestly, with corporations such as Coinbase standing behind them it would not surprise me. However, they won't make the same mistake as XT and would probably implement it down the road. It's really hard to keep bitcoin decentralized, too many powerhungry people are here  Indeed. can anyone inform us how much will cost us per month to use the Coinbase version of Bitcoin? |
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March 25, 2016, 11:36:15 PM |
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bitcoin is privil-hedge.
Luckily 70-80% of the coins are held by the 10-15% serious people, so it's perfect. There is an inverse relationship between get-rich-quick users and their holdings, and the same as serious people's numbers and their money. So nature rewards loyal people more than get-rich-quick speculators! |
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March 25, 2016, 11:36:54 PM |
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right? you're comfortable with that? |
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March 25, 2016, 11:41:47 PM |
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you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right?
you're comfortable with that?
Better than 16 or 32 mb blocks. Thats 32x more |
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March 25, 2016, 11:44:52 PM |
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right? you're comfortable with that? For the nodes who care to upgrade sure why not. You can also opt to stay behind. |
"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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adamstgBit
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March 25, 2016, 11:46:05 PM |
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you guys got me.
its completely insane to think bitcoin could operate without having the majority of nodes ran by individuals.
clearly what we have now is a very decentralized system
and we need to keep it just the way it is.
This is not about restricting nodes to any particular subset of society but achieving robustness through diversity and diffusion of power. Continue to educate yourself, maybe one day you'll get it. have you given up on your 1MB forever stance? It's not up to me and quite the opposite I'm increasingly comfortable leaving the block size alone for the near future absent some undeniable consensus on how to move forward. Segwit, payment channels are coming, lightning later on. Bitcoin is thriving why the fuck would you want to mess with it. you get segwit means ~2X more bandwidth requirements on nodes right? you're comfortable with that? For the nodes who care to upgrade sure why not. You can also opt to stay behind. glad to see your onboard for segwit. |
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March 25, 2016, 11:50:05 PM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. |
"I believe this will be the ultimate fate of Bitcoin, to be the "high-powered money" that serves as a reserve currency for banks that issue their own digital cash." Hal Finney, Dec. 2010
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March 26, 2016, 12:05:27 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* |
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adamstgBit
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March 26, 2016, 12:22:43 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. lol... its not like they planted these idea in my head, have i been known to ever have any other idea? for like 1 day i was in the small block camp. I like the other forum, the like button is cool. https://bitco.in/forum/you know me, simple little things and am i'm all like WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee you have yourself a good night you fucking asshole. |
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March 26, 2016, 01:26:26 AM |
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Can anyone inform me why Classic followers are racist to the chinese people? I am very sure that if this miner was white people from Usa or Zurich they will have not problem at all.
not sure, but I've heard some homophobic statements coming from that direction also ... think they said Core devs are gay or something, who knows they might be right but is there anything wrong with that? |
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March 26, 2016, 01:32:54 AM |
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blockstream fanboys word of the months
january: doomsday
Um, XT/Classic fanboys been saying doomsday since a year ago. When is the apocalypse of "fee event" coming? ... it was the 0mg!"capacity cliff catastrophe" before it was the "fee event". Not sure if Gavin called it the blockopocalypse in one of his endless blogs on the subject, but he may as well as have. In future it may just be referred to as the "failed coup attempt". |
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March 26, 2016, 01:34:02 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* Friend, just in case you're young & naive: Nnothing and no one here "is totally legit." Welcome to Bitcoin. What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree. |
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adamstgBit
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March 26, 2016, 01:37:05 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* Friend, just in case you're young & naive: Nnothing and no one here "is totally legit." Welcome to Bitcoin. What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree. this is interesting what scam did cypherdoc pull off? |
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March 26, 2016, 01:41:22 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* Friend, just in case you're young & naive: Nnothing and no one here "is totally legit." Welcome to Bitcoin. What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree. this is interesting what scam did cypherdoc pull off? Google "cypherdoc hashfast lebron james" and prepare to roll on the floor laughing at his lawyer's defense. Check his trust page. |
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March 26, 2016, 01:48:37 AM |
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What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree.
this is interesting what scam did cypherdoc pull off? ... he denies it was a scam. Basically quite a few guys pre-paid for ASIC mining equipment that was never delivered, cypherdoc was front and center pumping the pre-sale here on bitcoin talk ... bottom line, those guys didn't get any mining equipment and cypherdoc (and some others) got their BTC, cypherdoc pocketed 3000BTC ... when challenged directly on the ethics of this he just says "stuff-mumble-stuff lawyers" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1105722.0 |
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March 26, 2016, 01:51:57 AM |
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Can anyone inform me why Classic followers are racist to the chinese people? I am very sure that if this miner was white people from Usa or Zurich they will have not problem at all.
not sure, but I've heard some homophobic statements coming from that direction also ... think they said Core devs are gay or something, who knows they might be right but is there anything wrong with that? Core devs were called faggots,and you thought that was ...not a compliment? Pretty twisted, brah. |
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adamstgBit
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March 26, 2016, 01:59:42 AM |
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What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree.
this is interesting what scam did cypherdoc pull off? ... he denies it was a scam. Basically quite a few guys pre-paid for ASIC mining equipment that was never delivered, cypherdoc was front and center pumping the pre-sale here on bitcoin talk ... bottom line, those guys didn't get any mining equipment and cypherdoc (and some others) got their BTC, cypherdoc pocketed 3000BTC ... when challenged directly on the ethics of this he just says "stuff-mumble-stuff lawyers" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1105722.0dang thats really kinda nutty... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=8389wow he even ripped off gmaxwell kinda sounds like he got sucked into promoting Hashfast and Hashfast never delivered? |
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March 26, 2016, 02:05:57 AM |
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glad to see your onboard for segwit.
How about you roll a blunt or open a bottle of wine and chill a bit, you're not helping yourself getting all excited and drinking the bitco.in kool aid. Really, stay away from that place it's full of scammers and liars. What do you mean? frapdoc is totally legit! *cough* Hashfast *cough* Friend, just in case you're young & naive: Nnothing and no one here "is totally legit." Welcome to Bitcoin. What are you suggesting? That we should ignore the fact that people like frapdoc and jl777 pulled massive scams on the bitcoin community? If you're suggesting that everyone in the community has done so.... well, I disagree. No, not suggesting that everyone has. Many have, more have tried & failed (because not smart enough to steal even from their fellow intrepid entrepreneurs -- the other bitcoin enthusiasts). And pretty much the rest are just grist for the mill -- victims, degenerate gamblers, those who prey on degenerate gamblers. And those who eke out a living by promoting illegal dice sites [that prey on degenerate gamblers] in their signatures, and those who post that for the Nth time they're "all in" because moon and CCMF, etc., etc... Have I missed anyone? I'm sure I have. BTW, I tried warning "the community" about Cypher & HashFast. "The community" thought it knew better & called me a FUDster and ...even worse  So zero compassion  @adam re. "kinda sounds like he got sucked into promoting Hashfast and Hashfast never delivered?" Lol no, he knew exactly what he was doing. Don't assume that just because Core supporters are douches, Classic supporters are saints. |
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