Foundation Idea

[lightlord]

Videos showing what it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LXH-TJYS5w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Tj-c05qO1LA

DCA cure for cancer.
Pharmacies do not support it, because there's no money in it.
In rats implanted with tumors, there was a 70% shrinkage from DCA.

It only costs pennies to make.

http://thedcastore.com/
http://puredca.com/store/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dichloroacetic_acid Information.

Stores selling this already, though it costs $299, and up to $1200 for 1 KG, even though it costs penny to make.

My idea is we as a community work together to bring something that is amazing, and perhaps
changing for the world. It would go that we start up a charity called DCA Charity Foundation ,
and the site can be DCACharityFoundation.com.

Charities would be provided to patients in need, and terminal patients. And for any form of cancer.
The site would run off Charities purely, and there are other charity organizations already,
so adding this one would make things better, after all cure for cancer guys we want that!

Guys let all get together and start up something amazing! We could even make this site
donatable by bitcoins!

I would vouch for this myself, as someone in my family has a little girl, and another kid is dying of cancer  

I hope any of you, with a similarity, or the need of considering, this would benefit everyone.

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[Third Way]

I'd be weary of studies like that and any promotion of miracle cures.


The road to hell is paved with good intentions though, wish ya luck and hope you don't end up sharing breathing room with less savory elements.

[lightlord]

I would expect the opposite, as pharmacies, a major cooperation, does not want a cancer cure treatment,
that would cost pennies to make, it would only cripple their sales, and thus they would never promote such a thing.

I checked the reviews, there are many good reviews, and some with stage four cancer, all being reversed,
and explain the rat being planted with a human tumor, and it shrinking 70% with no noticeable side effects.
Chemotherapy provides many side effects, and my Mother went under that after she got stage 2 cancer uterus.
Though its been all successful, but it made her sick, nausea, and loss of hair.

I don't want anyone to suffer the same fate.

I'd be weary of studies like that and any promotion of miracle cures.


The road to hell is paved with good intentions though, wish ya luck and hope you don't end up sharing breathing room with less savory elements.

[Third Way]

I'm fully against chemo, don't get me wrong. Whom ever thought up poisoning with radiation the human body as a treatment is an asshole.


If I am diagnosed, fuck it, I'll just live my life and die.

[lightlord]

If I am diagnosed, fuck it, I'll just live my life and die.

You see, DCA, provides a opportunity where you don't have to choose that.
 

[Third Way]

Everyone dies eventually, is what I was getting to, why fight it?

[lightlord]

Everyone dies eventually, is what I was getting to, why fight it?

So your basically saying, I should just let two little children aged 4-5 in my family die,
and I should listen to you saying *Why fight it.

No fuck your statement, I will fight it, and will do anything to take it down.
Innocent children shouldn't die, they should be allowed to live a normal long
life like the rest of us.

[Gabi]

I'm fully against chemo, don't get me wrong. Whom ever thought up poisoning with radiation the human body as a treatment is an asshole.


If I am diagnosed, fuck it, I'll just live my life and die.

FUD to its extreme!

[Third Way]

I didn't mean for your kids to die, I meant myself. Notmuch for me to live for, but go for it man, I support your startup/foundation

[lightlord]

Since cancer kills nearly 1/3, and there are lots of close realtivies, to a certain person.
I was merely expecting a ton of supporters.

But there seem to be almost none. Everyone seems to want the pharmacies to make money,
and no one wants to take them down for this one. No one wants to stand up, or
make a difference.

All i get is *FUD to the extreme*

Already been more then a day, and dumb threads
seems to get posted by everyone, and these threads do not even
are interesting by anyone.

Its not just the kids on my family, its not like my family is the only one in the world.
There are millions upon millions, and many children and adults.

I expect some supporters.

Not retarded responses.

This foundation idea can only work if enough supporters, but if all I get is *FUD to the extreme.*
I don't feel any hope for this taking off.

[Third Way]

You're not going to get supporters until you:

A) Deliver results on your own.

B) Stop calling people retarded

C)Stop Expecting supporters "just because".

[lightlord]

I get many sources, saying it cost pennies to make.
First of off, I am expecting, methods, help, ideas.
I am expecting some effort from this community.

Once I get some volunteers, for the webpage creation,
or anyone good at working with chemicals, and different types,
and knows how to make this substance.

All really is need is support, but if there is nothing, it won't work.
There are charities for cancer, and tons of people support them.
But since this completely cures cancer for good, there should be a ton
more people supporting this one, as everyone in the other one wants the same thing,
and it hasn't happen yet.

[lightlord]

You're not going to get supporters until you:

A) Deliver results on your own.

B) Stop calling people retarded

C)Stop Expecting supporters "just because".

A) Results have already been shown, 70% decrease in lab rats with implanted human tumors, and
stage 4 people have been completely cured with very high success rates.
Delivering results is difficult, because these sites that deal with DCA charge $1200 per KG,
and they cost pennies to make. I wanted to fix that solution for everyone, but there has to be support.

B) People shouting *FUD to the extreme* is not really any info, and its pointless, what else should I say?

C) All charities expect this, if there wasn't any supporters, charities would have a hell of a time, or wouldn't
even exist.

[Third Way]

If 'c' is true why are you arguing about not having supporters?

'b' is just a strawman.

'a', results are in lab mice with human tumors, I meant lab results that showed results in HUMANS. And with control groups. Hell a blind or double blind would be even better.

[lassdas]

All i get is *FUD to the extreme*

You mentioned that now a couple of times, but maybe,
just maybe...you should read what people post,
because that *FUD to the extreme* statement you're so upset about wasn't even pointed at you.

So better calm down a bit.

Besides that you act like it were a proven fact that DCA is helpful at all, which is untrue,
here's for example what the american cancer society has to say about it:

DCA has been tested in humans on a small scale for rare diseases of metabolism (energy production), but has recently shown some promise in the lab for cancer treatment. This has led some people with cancer to try taking DCA on their own. DCA is known to cause nerve and liver damage, as well as some other side effects. It may also be able to cause cancer in humans, but that has not been proven.

At this time, clinical trials (studies on human volunteers) have just been started to find out if DCA might be helpful against cancer. No human studies have been completed yet, so it is unclear how or whether it might help, or what the proper dose might be.

Can't find anything about very high success rates on humans at all,
so whats your sources? Maybe you should show some of them, instead of just mentioning something you read, heard, or viewed on a youtube-video and take it for real.

[Largo]

Quote from wikipedia.

Side effects

Reports in the lay press after the 2007 University of Alberta announcement claim that dichloroacetate "has actually been used safely in humans for decades",[35] DCA is generally well tolerated, even in children.[36] Short-term, infused, bolus doses of DCA at 50 mg/kg/day have been well tolerated.[37]

At sustained, higher doses(generally 25 mg/kg/day taken orally, or greater), there is increased risk of several reversible toxicities, especially peripheral neuropathy, neurotoxicity, and gait disturbance.[5][35]

Studies have also shown that it can be carcinogenic in male B6C3F1 mice at high doses

Why mess with this when there are better and safer alternatives:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3CQ62F1p0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7SDt4pJ_Qo&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy66MUZP538
http://phoenixtears.ca/
http://www.endalldisease.com/harvard-study-says-marijuana-cures-cancer/
http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2012/10/23/biochemist-who-cured-his-stage-4-prostate-cancer-with-cannabis-oil-explains-how-it-works/
http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/2010/01/04/marijuana-cures-cancer-us-government-has-known-since-1974/

Cannabis not only kills cancer, it does it without harming you in ANY WAY, its even good for your general health since it works as an antioxidant and neuroprotectant.
And with cannabis, everyone can grow it for free, you dont even need chemicals or a lab, just some water, dirt and sunlight  

[Third Way]

Cannabis doesn't kill cancer that hasn't been proven, but it does help in preventing cancerous cell formation which are completely different things.


I'd also suggest in reading up on Royal Rife's research on cancer.

[lightlord]

Even if its not pointed at me, I expected some info, or something that would be helpful.

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-12-04/tech/coolsc.coolsc.mousegenome_1_human-genome-new-human-genes-genes-that-cause-disease?_s=PM:TECH

Rats share about 99% of genes compared to humans, supposedly going by this article.

It wasn't a rat tumor, it was human tumor planted in the rat. If it responds in the rat, it will respond in humans.

http://www.medicorcancer.com/dca-data.html

60% positive response, and several with complete tumor regression.

http://puredca.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/dca_review.jpg
http://puredca.com/testimonials/

*Dr. Evangelos Michelakis, a professor at the University of Alberta Department of Medicine, has shown that dichloroacetate can turn the mitochondria of cancer cells back on, allowing them to spot the faults in the cell and commit suicide. *

http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-link.aspx?n=3153

american cancer society has to say about it:

Its more then likely pharmacy companies, that offer cancer treatments for years, that make
loads of money, are just working to corrupt the system here.
There are tons of reviews, and promising results.
If some cancer patients are dying, they will die anyways,
whats the harm in offering something, that shows positive results?
They will die anyways right?

All i get is *FUD to the extreme*

You mentioned that know a couple of times, but maybe,
just maybe...you should read what people post,
because that *FUD to the extreme* statement you're so upset about wasn't even pointed at you.

So better calm down a bit.

Besides that you act like it were a proven fact that DCA is helpful at all, which is untrue,
here's for example what the american cancer society has to say about it:

DCA has been tested in humans on a small scale for rare diseases of metabolism (energy production), but has recently shown some promise in the lab for cancer treatment. This has led some people with cancer to try taking DCA on their own. DCA is known to cause nerve and liver damage, as well as some other side effects. It may also be able to cause cancer in humans, but that has not been proven.

At this time, clinical trials (studies on human volunteers) have just been started to find out if DCA might be helpful against cancer. No human studies have been completed yet, so it is unclear how or whether it might help, or what the proper dose might be.

Can't find anything about very high success rates on humans at all,
so whats your sources? Maybe you should show some of them, instead of just mentioning something you read, heard, or viewed on a youtube-video and take it for real.

[Largo]

Cannabis doesn't kill cancer that hasn't been proven, but it does help in preventing cancerous cell formation which are completely different things.


I'd also suggest in reading up on Royal Rife's research on cancer.

There is enough 'anecdotal evidence' about cannabis curing cancer, just check my links above, if you still dont belive it after you watched those videos then i cant help you.
Only reason this hasnt been 'proven' is its a schedule 1 drug in the US.
And please dont cunfuse this with smoking weed or making hemp oil from seeds, the product that cured countless people even with terminal cancer is the extracted oil from the buds.

[TECSHARE]

Everyone dies eventually, is what I was getting to, why fight it?

Why go to a thread aimed toward saving peoples lives to declare your lack of will to live? You would just let yourself die, good for you.... you don't get to make that decision for the rest of us. You need to let this one go, you fucked up. Deal with it. You can stop derailing the thread now.

BTW I checked this substance out a little bit and it is very new but clearly has some backing even from more "mainstream" sources. His claims are also supported by clinical trials. I would be weary of calling anything a cure, but if it helps why not?


BTW I'll just leave this here: http://www.cannabis-med.org/index.php?tpl=cannabinoids&id=243&lng=en&red=cannabinoidslist

[Third Way]

Funny you tell me im derailing the thread focosin on what I said in one post without looking at the rest. Did you even check out Royal Rife's research on cancer?

I merely stated that I would not fight it if I had some type of cancer, not telling you or anyone else to not fight it if they can through any means necessary.

DCA for what it's worth is a double edged compound, some research points that it can be poisonous although reversible, while some say it's almost a miracle cure, but without complete testing with credible studies performed, it's not much.

Those are my 2 c's