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January 20, 2016, 07:51:19 AM
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Talk about abuse of the Trust System here on bitcointalk, look at my Trust.  I have red trust because I doxxed to suchmoon and Paul Revere what they have done to so many. 

They may do some good things for the crypto community but their take no prisoners approach is unethical.  While they post around the forums with the anti GAW posse, they leave a path of destruction.  It is a "prove your innocent" approach with these guys.  They think that collateral damage is ok, well it is not ok in my book.

By their standards, they get praised for doxxing people and a pat on the back.  All I get is a negative Trust rating.  Well, here it is for all to see.

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January 20, 2016, 07:56:38 AM
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The person that labeled me with negative Trust - thinks I am displaying behavior consistent with a scam.  WOW, great reason to leave negative trust. 

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January 20, 2016, 08:03:16 AM
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The person that labeled me with negative Trust - thinks I am displaying behavior consistent with a scam.  WOW, great reason to leave negative trust.  
Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member).

By their standards, they get praised for doxxing people and a pat on the back. 
AFAIK, Doxxing scammers isn't against the forum rules.
All I get is a negative Trust rating.
You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.
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January 20, 2016, 08:07:10 AM
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The person that labeled me with negative Trust - thinks I am displaying behavior consistent with a scam.  WOW, great reason to leave negative trust.  
Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member). You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.

Not if it is publicly available info

"Q: What about deleting DOXes?
A: Nope, we don't delete them either as long as they are on topic and the information can be obtained legally (no SSNs for example). Why? Because such doxing is just compiling information about a user already available publicly, often via search engines."

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

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January 20, 2016, 09:09:46 AM
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Here is the way that CryptoDevil decides to give out negative trust, because peonminer insinuated I am the BitStoneDev.  Based on nothing more than their assumptions.  What a shame.


I mean, THANKS BITSTONEDEV.

Oh? Untrustworthiness reporting widened to include Bitstonedev account then.

After all, if they are using one account to attempt to promote themselves as a legitimate business while using another to doxx and rage against people who have questioned that business, then both accounts need to be flagged as being operated by a person who is clearly untrustworthy.



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January 20, 2016, 10:57:39 AM
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Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member).
You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.
No, it is not. If it was, he would be already banned and the information removed.


OP technically this isn't a 'abuse of trust' as anyone could leave you a negative for whatever reason they think is justified. You have two options:
1. Contact cryptodevil and try to resolve it with him.
2. Contact the person on Depth 1 who has trusted cryptodevil (thus putting him on Depth 2). That would be dooglus.


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January 20, 2016, 11:20:34 AM
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Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member).
You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.
No, it is not. If it was, he would be already banned and the information removed.


OP technically this isn't a 'abuse of trust' as anyone could leave you a negative for whatever reason they think is justified. You have two options:
1. Contact cryptodevil and try to resolve it with him.
2. Contact the person on Depth 1 who has trusted cryptodevil (thus putting him on Depth 2). That would be dooglus.

Actually, the placement of dooglus in DT should be debated...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1307383.0
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January 20, 2016, 01:35:39 PM
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Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member).
You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.
No, it is not. If it was, he would be already banned and the information removed.


OP technically this isn't a 'abuse of trust' as anyone could leave you a negative for whatever reason they think is justified. You have two options:
1. Contact cryptodevil and try to resolve it with him.
2. Contact the person on Depth 1 who has trusted cryptodevil (thus putting him on Depth 2). That would be dooglus.

Actually, the placement of dooglus in DT should be debated...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1307383.0

Oh, FFS, give it up butthurt-quickscammer, do you really think we are stupid as you are?   Tongue
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January 20, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
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Oh thats serious. I think posting someone details is not good. Dont know much yet though.

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January 20, 2016, 03:22:25 PM
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Talk about abuse of the Trust System here on bitcointalk, look at my Trust.  I have red trust because I doxxed to suchmoon and Paul Revere what they have done to so many

To whom exactly? You? Where?

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January 20, 2016, 03:32:52 PM
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Retaliatory  feedback is the risk you take for outing scammers. You show as Neutral to me.
Doxxing is allowed for information that is already out there.

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January 20, 2016, 03:35:40 PM
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Well in your post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1334135.0 you are trolling basically. ''I don't like this user so I'm going to make a sig campaign against him and dox him'' Isn't that the definition of trolling? Not only that but your attitude definitely shows you are not trustworthy therefore the negative trust is well deserved.

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January 20, 2016, 04:14:16 PM
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Doxxing is allowed for information that is already out there.

Ha. You just made a funny.
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January 20, 2016, 08:09:21 PM
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I've noticed that MakeBelieve has a lot of negatives given by hacked accounts. Three of them were given on the same day, which implies that they could be owned by the same hacker who for some reason hates our OP. Maybe this DOX is the reason?


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January 20, 2016, 09:02:51 PM
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The person that labeled me with negative Trust - thinks I am displaying behavior consistent with a scam.  WOW, great reason to leave negative trust.  
Basically, doxxing is against the forum rules. You're doxxing suchmoon (DT member).

By their standards, they get praised for doxxing people and a pat on the back. 
AFAIK, Doxxing scammers isn't against the forum rules.
All I get is a negative Trust rating.
You maybe banned for this; negative trust isn't enough.

You dont know what you are talking about, a dox is just public information you put together, only theymos's dox is disallowed here

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January 20, 2016, 09:23:04 PM
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You dont know what you are talking about, a dox is just public information you put together, only theymos's dox is disallowed here

By your definition this isn't dox because MakeBelieve paid someone for the information and has not provided proof to show that it's been obtained legally from public sources. So what is it then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278868.0

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January 20, 2016, 09:29:11 PM
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You dont know what you are talking about, a dox is just public information you put together, only theymos's dox is disallowed here

By your definition this isn't dox because MakeBelieve paid someone for the information and has not provided proof to show that it's been obtained legally from public sources. So what is it then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278868.0

I would personally consider that trolling. Trying to dox someone and eventually doxing someone just because the sake of it should not be allowed even if the information is public and as you said he still has to provide evidence of it. This kind of behavior should not be allowed specially when it's obvious he is just retaliating because his butthurt.

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January 20, 2016, 10:33:36 PM
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You dont know what you are talking about, a dox is just public information you put together, only theymos's dox is disallowed here

By your definition this isn't dox because MakeBelieve paid someone for the information and has not provided proof to show that it's been obtained legally from public sources. So what is it then?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278868.0

I would personally consider that trolling. Trying to dox someone and eventually doxing someone just because the sake of it should not be allowed even if the information is public and as you said he still has to provide evidence of it. This kind of behavior should not be allowed specially when it's obvious he is just retaliating because his butthurt.

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January 20, 2016, 11:48:38 PM
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2. Contact the person on Depth 1 who has trusted cryptodevil (thus putting him on Depth 2). That would be dooglus.
I don't have proof ATM, however I would say there is a fairly decent chance that dooglus is cryptodevil. They tend to echo eachother in who they leave negative trust to, however they very rarely leave trust against the same person. They also tend to echo eachother in threads they both post in, however never directly respond to eachother.

@OP - why exactly did you dox suchmoon and Paul Revere? I really have not interacted with Paul, or really see what he posts about, and although I do not agree with suchmoon's tactics, I would say that (s)he overall contributes positively to the forum.


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January 21, 2016, 12:28:55 AM
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The person that labeled me with negative Trust - thinks I am displaying behavior consistent with a scam.  WOW, great reason to leave negative trust. 
Come on, if you've been a member here for any length of time, you know what can happen with negative trust.  There are folks here who are unscrupulous when it comes to this, and I've gotten red trust from dickheads simply because I disagreed with some of their posts.  It's meaningless unless there's a referenced thread, and even then that thread has to be meaningful in itself. 

I'm still trying to figure out what this little drama is all about, but I doubt this doxxing will amount to anything.  Was there an actual scam on the part of bitstone?  I'm still reading the other thread which is like a million pages long.


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