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January 22, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
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You already run the promotion as I thought you mentioned about running one shortly after the first 48 hours has been completed for the site.
Have I missed it already and if not. Can you elaborate what it is about. Then I will decide whether I will put some bits into your program.

Official launch giveaway has not yet been announced.
As yesterday we were having delays with receiving deposits,
we wanted to make sure everything works perfectly before
involving more members. Now as everything is functioning perfectly
we are slowly putting together the giveaway rules.
You haven't missed it, just stay tuned for updates here and on our
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Good to know that I did not miss out on it as I was waiting for a giveaway or promotion to start this program and trying out a deposit.
If all goes well with it, would you be raising the maximum amount of deposits amounts or would that just take too much from the allotted amount you have to payout existing investors?

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January 22, 2016, 08:55:45 PM
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is it still working normally? i would like to try it out myself
We were only experiencing small delays yesterday for some members.
As from today we are working without any errors or delays.
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January 22, 2016, 09:01:23 PM
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is it still working normally? i would like to try it out myself
it works normally now. better than yesterday =)
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January 22, 2016, 09:01:34 PM
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Admin its been around 18 hours now and no payment to my account can you please check payment

34LweGjML2EfLmVkW1Y5DZyrwWS16mhfb4  of 0.05003171 BTC

Refund if possible, let me know if we can try again.



Admin can you check this for me please?

Refund for the delayed deposit , paid back.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/15a88bbb19cfcdd450282cc05f9b53e764927fa901d76cba1fe1cf5006baabb2

We apologize that this happened. Yesterday we had some delays as i explained many times before.
Today deposits are going thru without delays and are registering in our system without problems.
And those who deposited yesterday at the problematic time, refunds have been sent out, check few
posts back for proof of payments.

Got the refund thanks man. I'll try again today.
Well it does your business good to know you are giving refunds for the deposits not made to their accounts. This shows that you are good to your members who join and not just in it to make a quick amount of bitcoin.
This reflects good on your efforts to make your site last longer with more new members to come.

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January 22, 2016, 09:05:10 PM
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Is anybody putting in more than 0.5btc into this site, I don't see any thing on the deposit sheet that has above this or is that the minimum allowed? Are you planning on upping the amount allowed to deposit at once?
I see that members are saying you can do more than one deposit to the same address, will it allow it to send out your payments in lump sumps if you do this?
The maximum allowed deposit is 0.5 BTC
You can make as many deposits as you like.
If you will send two different payments to 1 generated wallet,
it will make thesedeposits separate and send payments as for separate deposits.
But the minimum allowed is 0.005btc correct? So what if someone put in 0.004btc for one deposit then the second as 0.001btc would they be rejected or still be processed  as one valid deposit of the minimum of 0.005btc?
They would both stay in the account, transactions do not get rejected if they are less amount.
Few people have already mistakenly sent smaller amount, we have issued a refund for them upon request. Wink
But if they stay in the account do they just accumulate until they reach the 0.005btc minimum?
Are the getting the hourly payouts after that happens or are just sitting there idle not doing anything?

They wouldnt  be accepted as a deposit. They would just stay there. The limits are mentioned on btc.surf homepage, in 3 places for people not to make a mistake. But if they do, we are open to refund the sent deposit so you could add a bit and deposit again so it reaches the minimum allowed.
I did just that for the amount of 0.004btc. I sent you the details in order to get it refunded back to where it was sent from.
Can you provide me the refund tx id for that in a pm please? Let me know if I have any other deposits just sitting at that same deposit address I provided and not having been accepted as an allowed deposit amount.

Refund paid back for your deposit that didn't reach minimum allowed amount. (0,005)
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January 22, 2016, 09:06:40 PM
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Admin its been around 18 hours now and no payment to my account can you please check payment

34LweGjML2EfLmVkW1Y5DZyrwWS16mhfb4  of 0.05003171 BTC

Refund if possible, let me know if we can try again.



Admin can you check this for me please?

Refund for the delayed deposit , paid back.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/15a88bbb19cfcdd450282cc05f9b53e764927fa901d76cba1fe1cf5006baabb2

We apologize that this happened. Yesterday we had some delays as i explained many times before.
Today deposits are going thru without delays and are registering in our system without problems.
And those who deposited yesterday at the problematic time, refunds have been sent out, check few
posts back for proof of payments.

Got the refund thanks man. I'll try again today.
Well it does your business good to know you are giving refunds for the deposits not made to their accounts. This shows that you are good to your members who join and not just in it to make a quick amount of bitcoin.
This reflects good on your efforts to make your site last longer with more new members to come.

Thank you for your kind words and positive feedback.
We are doing our best to help out everyone as much as possible
and we will keep doing it for days to come.
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January 22, 2016, 09:10:14 PM
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Admin its been around 18 hours now and no payment to my account can you please check payment

34LweGjML2EfLmVkW1Y5DZyrwWS16mhfb4  of 0.05003171 BTC

Refund if possible, let me know if we can try again.



Admin can you check this for me please?

Refund for the delayed deposit , paid back.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/15a88bbb19cfcdd450282cc05f9b53e764927fa901d76cba1fe1cf5006baabb2

We apologize that this happened. Yesterday we had some delays as i explained many times before.
Today deposits are going thru without delays and are registering in our system without problems.
And those who deposited yesterday at the problematic time, refunds have been sent out, check few
posts back for proof of payments.

Got the refund thanks man. I'll try again today.
Well it does your business good to know you are giving refunds for the deposits not made to their accounts. This shows that you are good to your members who join and not just in it to make a quick amount of bitcoin.
This reflects good on your efforts to make your site last longer with more new members to come.

Thank you for your kind words and positive feedback.
We are doing our best to help out everyone as much as possible
and we will keep doing it for days to come.
If you are staying to your word on this, I will add a positive feedback to get rid of some of that red on your name because of this. But only if I reach ROI when I put in my deposit once you start the promotion offer. Sound ok? Time will tell of course.

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January 22, 2016, 09:17:40 PM
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Admin its been around 18 hours now and no payment to my account can you please check payment

34LweGjML2EfLmVkW1Y5DZyrwWS16mhfb4  of 0.05003171 BTC

Refund if possible, let me know if we can try again.



Admin can you check this for me please?

Refund for the delayed deposit , paid back.
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/15a88bbb19cfcdd450282cc05f9b53e764927fa901d76cba1fe1cf5006baabb2

We apologize that this happened. Yesterday we had some delays as i explained many times before.
Today deposits are going thru without delays and are registering in our system without problems.
And those who deposited yesterday at the problematic time, refunds have been sent out, check few
posts back for proof of payments.

Got the refund thanks man. I'll try again today.
Well it does your business good to know you are giving refunds for the deposits not made to their accounts. This shows that you are good to your members who join and not just in it to make a quick amount of bitcoin.
This reflects good on your efforts to make your site last longer with more new members to come.

Thank you for your kind words and positive feedback.
We are doing our best to help out everyone as much as possible
and we will keep doing it for days to come.
If you are staying to your word on this, I will add a positive feedback to get rid of some of that red on your name because of this. But only if I reach ROI when I put in my deposit once you start the promotion offer. Sound ok? Time will tell of course.

We are here to prove ourselves as profitable project and time is the best thing that will show it.
Currently lot of members are profiting so we are holding our word and will keep doing it,
We are thankful for this amazing support from members .
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January 22, 2016, 09:21:43 PM
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January 22, 2016, 09:28:02 PM
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kindly check my deposit. i already deposited. but it seems not appeared on your site.

https://blockchain.info/tx/8c588091afb751ca576ee34cb397dcc69ca34589bf47ac790e8764ad5deca546

https://blockchain.info/tx/9e9426f359fd67acb572a01c4095c04fe28587c0e42cd7a4bf69febac1e14123

olease do something abt this transaction. i already deposited.and havent recv any payout.

We apologize as we are having some delays in receiving the transaction to our database from the Blocktrail webhooks This is mainly Blockchains fault as they are having some lags today. Only few members are having these delays when depositing, others are okey. Your payment is not lost, our system just haven't received a notification of it so we can not process it manually without disturbing other payments. On this we just have to wait for now a bit while it clears thru and gets accepted.
Thank you for your patience.
As you can see on btc.surf homepage, other deposits are going thru almost every 10 minutes, Payments are still on time, sent instantly and everything else is working perfectly. We cant be enough sorry for the delays some are experiencing at deposit step, and we are doing our best to get to the bottom of it and explain it to those who are experiencing these delays.


Please refund also mine.havent receive my payment.will try to deposit.
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January 22, 2016, 09:34:02 PM
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hey wakasaki808
http://s2.postimg.org/x1plu4sax/BTC_SURF_DOUBLE_YOUR_BITCOIN_S_JUST_LIKE_THAT.png
you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
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January 22, 2016, 09:44:11 PM
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hey wakasaki808

you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
Well that is unusual.
Usually from what I have seen on past sites like this one, they do this to not pay so much in transaction fees (miners fee) for smaller amounts.
I hope Wakasaki808 can explain it for you.

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January 22, 2016, 09:50:21 PM
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hey wakasaki808
http://s2.postimg.org/x1plu4sax/BTC_SURF_DOUBLE_YOUR_BITCOIN_S_JUST_LIKE_THAT.png
you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
Well that is unusual.
Usually from what I have seen on past sites like this one, they do this to not pay so much in transaction fees (miners fee) for smaller amounts.
I hope Wakasaki808 can explain it for you.
do not pay much in transaction fee is ok, but count one payment as two - is not good
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January 22, 2016, 10:01:40 PM
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hey wakasaki808

you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
Well that is unusual.
Usually from what I have seen on past sites like this one, they do this to not pay so much in transaction fees (miners fee) for smaller amounts.
I hope Wakasaki808 can explain it for you.

Yesterday at one point there were delays in outgoing payments for few minutes because of the payment amount being too low to send.
So system gives out errors,  to not stop the payouts because of miners fees we added 0.0001 BTC fee for every outgoing payment from out pockets.
Yesterday this amount was going to fees as for today the transactions are going thru without the need of fee so we have removed it from our side as it is just costing us extra.  Basically for some time you were earning a bit more than 200% of deposit.

Your initial deposit was: 0.006 BTC
200% of 0.006 BTC is 0.012 BTC
0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

When we added the 0.0001 at first it was used as fee to cover small payments, but when network opens it can let payments thru without fees, so for some time You received many payments of: 0.000225 BTC until few hours ago we removed it.

calculate that: 0.000225 BTC x 96 = 0.0216 BTC
If you would receive every payment like that , then you would profit more than double.

I hope this explains you it. In few words, for some time you were earning more than you should be.

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January 22, 2016, 10:08:13 PM
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Nice explanation with description and the calculations involved.
Usually you don't see this from site owners of these programs being so through in their sites functionality.  Smiley

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January 22, 2016, 10:19:55 PM
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hey wakasaki808
http://s2.postimg.org/x1plu4sax/BTC_SURF_DOUBLE_YOUR_BITCOIN_S_JUST_LIKE_THAT.png
you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
Well that is unusual.
Usually from what I have seen on past sites like this one, they do this to not pay so much in transaction fees (miners fee) for smaller amounts.
I hope Wakasaki808 can explain it for you.

Yesterday at one point there were delays in outgoing payments for few minutes because of the payment amount being too low to send.
So system gives out errors,  to not stop the payouts because of miners fees we added 0.0001 BTC fee for every outgoing payment from out pockets.
Yesterday this amount was going to fees as for today the transactions are going thru without the need of fee so we have removed it from our side as it is just costing us extra.  Basically for some time you were earning a bit more than 200% of deposit.

Your initial deposit was: 0.006 BTC
200% of 0.006 BTC is 0.012 BTC
0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

When we added the 0.0001 at first it was used as fee to cover small payments, but when network opens it can let payments thru without fees, so for some time You received many payments of: 0.000225 BTC until few hours ago we removed it.

calculate that: 0.000225 BTC x 96 = 0.0216 BTC
If you would receive every payment like that , then you would profit more than double.

I hope this explains you it. In few words, for some time you were earning more than you should be.


anyway you're wrong in calculations.
you say: 0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC
you've made 9 payments (87 payments left)
so if you say that every payment is 0.000125 BTC i should get 0.000125 BTC * 9 = 0.001125 BTC
you've paid me 0.001825 BTC and 87 payments left

so i can't still get it
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January 22, 2016, 10:27:38 PM
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hey wakasaki808

you've made last two payments for half of a one and count it as two
can you explain it, please?
Well that is unusual.
Usually from what I have seen on past sites like this one, they do this to not pay so much in transaction fees (miners fee) for smaller amounts.
I hope Wakasaki808 can explain it for you.

Yesterday at one point there were delays in outgoing payments for few minutes because of the payment amount being too low to send.
So system gives out errors,  to not stop the payouts because of miners fees we added 0.0001 BTC fee for every outgoing payment from out pockets.
Yesterday this amount was going to fees as for today the transactions are going thru without the need of fee so we have removed it from our side as it is just costing us extra.  Basically for some time you were earning a bit more than 200% of deposit.

Your initial deposit was: 0.006 BTC
200% of 0.006 BTC is 0.012 BTC
0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

When we added the 0.0001 at first it was used as fee to cover small payments, but when network opens it can let payments thru without fees, so for some time You received many payments of: 0.000225 BTC until few hours ago we removed it.

calculate that: 0.000225 BTC x 96 = 0.0216 BTC
If you would receive every payment like that , then you would profit more than double.

I hope this explains you it. In few words, for some time you were earning more than you should be.


anyway you're wrong in calculations.
you say: 0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC
you've made 9 payments (87 payments left)
so if you say that every payment is 0.000125 BTC i should get 0.000125 BTC * 9 = 0.001125 BTC
you've paid me 0.001825 BTC and 87 payments left

so i can't still get it


Like you wrote: 0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

Your deposit: 0.006 BTC
Double your deposit: 0.012 BTC

1) So based on the above calculations you should receive: 0.000125 BTC every hour.

2) For few hours you received more, which was: 0.000225 BTC  (that is 0.000125 + our added fee cover 0.0001)

Why was it more?
Because we added it in code to add 0.0001 BTC extra to every outgoing payment to cover fees requested by miners, because yesterday some small payments didn't want to send out because of too low amount. As today the fee is not required, so we are not just paying members extra 0.0001 BTC on every payment, so we removed the extra 0.0001 BTC we added.

Hope this explains you it.
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January 22, 2016, 10:34:55 PM
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Like you wrote: 0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

Your deposit: 0.006 BTC
Double your deposit: 0.012 BTC

So based on the above calculations you should receive: 0.000125 BTC every hour.

For few hours you received more, which is: 0.000225 BTC

Why was it more?
Because we added in code to ad 0.0001 BTC to every outgoing payment to cover fees, because yesterday some small payments didn't go thru. As today the fee is not required, then we are not just paying members extra 0.0001 BTC on every payment.

Hope this explains you it.

if you'll do 87 more payments with 0.000125 BTC you'll pay me more than 0.012 BTC
you've already paid 0.001825 BTC
87 payments left. so 87 * 0.000125 = 0.010875 BTC
and the total sum will be 0.001825 BTC + 0.010875 BTC = 0.020575 BTC which is greater than 0.012 BTC by 0.008575 BTC
am i right?

what am i talking about is that your 'Payments Left' calculations are wrong. or you're going to pay me more than x2
it's nice but not fair =)
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January 22, 2016, 10:35:10 PM
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Damnn wish I wasn't away from the forum for the past few days I totally would have invested in this one, but now it might be too late .
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January 22, 2016, 10:38:03 PM
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Like you wrote: 0.000125 BTC x 96 = 0.012 BTC

Your deposit: 0.006 BTC
Double your deposit: 0.012 BTC

So based on the above calculations you should receive: 0.000125 BTC every hour.

For few hours you received more, which is: 0.000225 BTC

Why was it more?
Because we added in code to ad 0.0001 BTC to every outgoing payment to cover fees, because yesterday some small payments didn't go thru. As today the fee is not required, then we are not just paying members extra 0.0001 BTC on every payment.

Hope this explains you it.

if you'll do 87 more payments with 0.000125 BTC you'll pay me more than 0.012 BTC
you've already paid 0.001825 BTC
87 payments left. so 87 * 0.000125 = 0.010875 BTC
and the total sum will be 0.001825 BTC + 0.010875 BTC = 0.020575 BTC which is greater than 0.012 BTC by 0.008575 BTC
am i right?

what am i talking about is that your 'Payments Left' calculations are wrong. or you're going to pay me more than x2
it's nice but not fair =)

Yes , correct! For this deposit at the end you will have a little bit more on top of your 200% profit.
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