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January 23, 2016, 05:19:24 AM
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until they block all the vpn and vps provider, they are doing nothign there, if they are intelligent enough they should know this

besides youc an always trade bitcoin in other way and with plenty of other website
How will they ban all the free VPN/ Home VPN providers? They will keep on popping up. Also, what can be done about Tor?
This ban almost absolutely means nothing for the existing people who are dealing with bitcoin. Though it may make bitcoin look less attractive to the new users.
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January 23, 2016, 06:01:51 AM
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until they block all the vpn and vps provider, they are doing nothign there, if they are intelligent enough they should know this

besides youc an always trade bitcoin in other way and with plenty of other website
How will they ban all the free VPN/ Home VPN providers? They will keep on popping up. Also, what can be done about Tor?
This ban almost absolutely means nothing for the existing people who are dealing with bitcoin. Though it may make bitcoin look less attractive to the new users.

it may be true, but nobody likes to take this additional step of using vpn or Tor to access websites regularly. it would become a pain in the ass. besides using all those things are not free of risk.

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January 23, 2016, 06:30:13 AM
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Russia now as desperate as North Korea

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January 23, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
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What is it "Russia joins North Korea"  Roll Eyes

I think so, on the surface of Russia is a democracy, but some aspects are not, what do you think?
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January 23, 2016, 07:11:54 AM
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There are a lot of people for and against governments in any country. The people against the government, will become aware of Bitcoin when they see this attempted ban. They

will start using Bitcoin to stick it to the government. The government block one site and another pop up elsewhere.... If there are a full ban, people will react and take it

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January 23, 2016, 07:41:26 AM
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What does Russia have to lose by letting their people use Bitcoin? They have no reason to ban exchanges.
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January 23, 2016, 08:11:37 AM
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I really don't know why Russia would do this. I know that Bitcoin isn't very prominent in Russia but still.  Huh Huh Huh

u sound lile risky from the other Russian thread

talk sht much?

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January 23, 2016, 08:13:41 AM
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What does Russia have to lose by letting their people use Bitcoin? They have no reason to ban exchanges.

The Russian government wants to exert control over their citizens. Allowing them to have a financial freedom in the form of anonymous Bitcoin is a threat.

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January 23, 2016, 08:23:42 AM
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Russia is the largest country in the world. Blocking it will affect a lot of Bitcoiner that uses Bitstamps and BTC-e. Thankfully that there is ways to bypass the block or just simply use another site. The bad thing here is that new Russian will not know about the existence of cryptocurrency.

until they block all the vpn and vps provider, they are doing nothign there, if they are intelligent enough they should know this

besides youc an always trade bitcoin in other way and with plenty of other website

Yes agree. I'd say that the majority of Bitcoiners is very tech-savvy. They would simply use a VPN, VPS or Tor Browser to bypass the blocked sites.

-you are talking about land mass here right? what is the point?


- because young russians always follow their dictators? everything that is illegal is used alot in russia.

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January 23, 2016, 08:29:52 AM
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Can't block decentralized NXT multigateway exchanges which allow you to trade BTC and a multitude of alts.



when they run the roost like NK

u know they are big dealers in drugs prostitution and money laundering

could u imagine if they caught u phtographing NK gov workers

handling big bags of crystal meth

or any number of other dodgy pictures u could get

Singapore is the same

Jail for Anti gov posts on Facebook

yet a thousand kilometres of supposedly

illegal street brothels, corruption in ur face



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January 23, 2016, 09:04:38 AM
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They should not block all VPN, so to do is to join the North Korea, no, the Russian people do not agree with this
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January 23, 2016, 10:43:23 AM
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Well let's see how this will play out in the long run. For the actual Bitcoin users in Russia there are and will be ways to bypass this blocks.
Bitcoiners are pretty tech savvy and therefore they will be able to continue buying bitcoins.
But decentralized exchanges would be really nice to have as third party services which are centralized can be easily attacked as we can see.
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January 23, 2016, 10:47:46 AM
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This is only a sign of the powerlessness of the russian authorities, as the source of problems with Russia economy is in the fact, that it almost completely relies on the fossil fuels trading. As the Iran is coming back in to the business, Putin can only channel his frustration elsewhere.
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January 23, 2016, 11:15:20 AM
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FYI: BTCe moved to Cyprus a couple years ago.

If they did that, then BTC-e must have a financial license according to EU laws. I am sure they don't have it as many other exchangers.


That depends on which half of Cyprus BTCe moved to. There is the self-declared Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, and the other half called Southern Cyprus. Northern Cyprus is not recognized by the EU so doesn't have to abide by its laws. Southern Cyprus is recognized by the EU so has to abide by its laws. No countries except Turkey recognize Northern Cyprus, so if BTCe moved there it only has to abide by Turkish law.




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January 23, 2016, 11:53:11 AM
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until they block all the vpn and vps provider, they are doing nothign there, if they are intelligent enough they should know this

besides youc an always trade bitcoin in other way and with plenty of other website
How will they ban all the free VPN/ Home VPN providers? They will keep on popping up. Also, what can be done about Tor?
This ban almost absolutely means nothing for the existing people who are dealing with bitcoin. Though it may make bitcoin look less attractive to the new users.

it may be true, but nobody likes to take this additional step of using vpn or Tor to access websites regularly. it would become a pain in the ass. besides using all those things are not free of risk.
I would take that extra step. If you truly wanted to use Bitcoin, then you would do it to.
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January 23, 2016, 12:00:25 PM
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It seems that only dictators fear bitcoin Smiley
Bitcoin is about freedom and anonymity, 2 terms they don't like much.
I'm not sure if they really can stop bitcoin in their countries.
Maybe N. Korea can because only a few people there can use computers and Internet, under strict control.

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January 23, 2016, 12:04:23 PM
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I really don't know why Russia would do this. I know that Bitcoin isn't very prominent in Russia but still.  Huh Huh Huh
I can say that whatever the reason from Russia, they blocks Bitcoins exchanges or do anything, we must say that we have to save Bitcoins for our future here. And should follow what our Seniors mentors says about it.
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January 23, 2016, 12:12:13 PM
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until they block all the vpn and vps provider, they are doing nothing there, if they are intelligent enough they should know this

besides youc an always trade bitcoin in other way and with plenty of other website

Very true, but for new users the use of vpn and vps providers may be just that extra step to take that they don't feel like.

For existing users, it is no problem, they are tech savvy or interested enough to find ways around it, but for new users it becomes much more difficult to enter.
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January 23, 2016, 12:19:29 PM
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It seems that only dictators fear bitcoin Smiley
Bitcoin is about freedom and anonymity, 2 terms they don't like much.
I'm not sure if they really can stop bitcoin in their countries.
Maybe N. Korea can because only a few people there can use computers and Internet, under strict control.


I agree. In modern day Russia, in distinction from North Korea, it's impossible to make people stop using Bitcoin. Of course they can change the legislation and things will be different but let's hope this won't happen.

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January 23, 2016, 01:50:00 PM
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What next? Block Localbitcoin, any bitcoin-related website, VPN, Tor, Proxy or Bitcoin Nodes?
Guess there's no freedom for Russian & bitcoin is threat for their centralized currency.

But, what's point of block bitcoin exchanges in North Korea? There aren't too many computer & internet connection is very rare, so forget about block bitcoin, people there even don't know bitcoin.

there are decentralized exchange coming, it would be funny to see how they intend to block those

all this story about blocking and banning bitcoin was ridiculous since the beginning, even fed admitted that they cna not block bitcoin(i remember it soem years ago)
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