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December 04, 2013, 06:47:45 AM
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Delete the pre-mine on StableCoin, all the pre-mined coins on Stablecoin were destroyed when the coin was revived.

I assume there is a proof for that, is there ?

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December 04, 2013, 06:50:02 AM
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Delete the pre-mine on StableCoin, all the pre-mined coins on Stablecoin were destroyed when the coin was revived.

I assume there is a proof for that, is there ?

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December 04, 2013, 07:20:34 AM
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Delete the pre-mine on StableCoin, all the pre-mined coins on Stablecoin were destroyed when the coin was revived.

I assume there is a proof for that, is there ?

DESTRUCTION OF THE PREMINE

As some of you may remember, as part of the old mixing service, there were 1.2 million coins premined to act as the basis of the mixing pool. Of course, this caused much anger within the community, with accusations that the money would be used improperly, among other things. 5 months later, these funds have yet to be touched, so I'm happy to have proved those people wrong on those front.

However, under the new mixing system, these coins are no longer necessary. Accordingly, these coins will be publicly destroyed, as they were never intended to be used for anything other than mixing.

In this case, the 1.2 million coins were created in the genesis block. You might notice this is different than most coins that do their premine in block 1 and onward. This is because there is a well documented quirk within bitcoin that makes the genesis block unspendable. This is because when Satoshi designed the client, he decided not to add the coinbase transaction from the genesis block to the global transaction database.

To make these funds spendable, I added a simple bit of code during the initialization of the client (init.cpp). This code adds the genesis transaction to the global transaction database, making it spendable.
Code:

Code:
       // Genesis block
    const char* pszTimestamp = "June 7 2013, The Times, Prince Philip admitted to hospital for two weeks";
    CTransaction txNew;
    txNew.vin.resize(1);
    txNew.vout.resize(1);
    txNew.vin[0].scriptSig = CScript() << 486604799 << CBigNum(4) << vector<unsigned char>((const unsigned char*)pszTimestamp, (const unsigned char*)pszTimestamp + strlen(pszTimestamp));
    txNew.vout[0].nValue = 1250000 * COIN;
    txNew.vout[0].scriptPubKey = CScript() << ParseHex("0449D77B9B62E0DB1FD6150ECFC5722F31FEE52E585DE31B5AEFAD2CAC415D5698991F8F0B0CBBA7B9F4431BBE79B684876EDFBD369554ACC4182753FA48A3CD80") << OP_CHECKSIG;
    CBlock block;
    block.vtx.push_back(txNew);
    block.hashPrevBlock = 0;
    block.hashMerkleRoot = block.BuildMerkleTree();
    block.nVersion = 1;
    block.nTime    = 1370579804;
    block.nBits    = 0x1e0fffff;
    block.nNonce   = 2788;
                
        uint256 genesisHash("0x0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221");
        uint256 hash = txNew.GetHash();

{
        LOCK(mempool.cs);
        mempool.addUnchecked(hash,txNew);
}
                
{
        CTxDB txdb;
        txdb.TxnBegin();
        CBlockIndex* pindex = mapBlockIndex.find(genesisHash)->second;
        unsigned int nTxPos = pindex->nBlockPos + ::GetSerializeSize(CBlock(), SER_DISK, CLIENT_VERSION) - 1 + GetSizeOfCompactSize(block.vtx.size());
        CDiskTxPos posThisTx(pindex->nFile, pindex->nBlockPos, nTxPos);
    txdb.UpdateTxIndex(txNew.GetHash(), CTxIndex(posThisTx, txNew.vout.size()));
    txdb.TxnCommit();
}

By removing this code, the genesis block becomes unspendable, and the coins are essentially destroyed. This is the most eloquent way to accomplish the goal. Version 1.3 of StableCoin has this bit of code removed. I urge everyone to update immediately.

You can view the relevant commit here: https://github.com/stablecoin/stablecoin/commit/1912b4c1e9fb195c242e57459c613cb8c7846c8b

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December 04, 2013, 07:52:01 AM
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OK Guys!
With the recent price explosion, we have here some revolution in the altcoin world.

everything is now what MAJOR was not so long ago.
We have to change all the categories.

 my proposition:

TRUE CURRENCIES
-BITCOIN
-LITECOIN

THE BIG ONES
-MAJOR
-MINOR

NOTICEABLE
-MAJOR
-MINOR

CANDIDATES
-MAJOR
-MINOR

PURGATORY
-PROMISING
-THE REST


There is a lot to update, I found around 35 new coins.

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December 04, 2013, 09:10:29 AM
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Xorxor, may I humbly remind you of a proposal I made some time ago:

That's why instead of everyone trying to push their own favorite alts up we should establish some objective criteria for categorizing coins. From the top of my head:

* age (reason: newcomers have to prove themselves before they can be taken seriously)
* hashrate (reason: measure of community support, albeit questionable. Tricky due to variety of algorithms, PoW/PoS differences etc.)
* trade volume at exchanges (reason: measure of market support)
* market cap  (reason: measure of market support, albeit questionable without significant trade volume)
* transaction volume per day (reason: measure of usefulness, but questionable)

Ideas, anyone?

I'd rather avoid spamming this thread with a discussion why XYC is not a "true currency", whatever that means. :-)

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December 04, 2013, 01:47:20 PM
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Xorxor, may I humbly remind you of a proposal I made some time ago:

That's why instead of everyone trying to push their own favorite alts up we should establish some objective criteria for categorizing coins. From the top of my head:

* age (reason: newcomers have to prove themselves before they can be taken seriously)
* hashrate (reason: measure of community support, albeit questionable. Tricky due to variety of algorithms, PoW/PoS differences etc.)
* trade volume at exchanges (reason: measure of market support)
* market cap  (reason: measure of market support, albeit questionable without significant trade volume)
* transaction volume per day (reason: measure of usefulness, but questionable)

Ideas, anyone?

I'd rather avoid spamming this thread with a discussion why XYC is not a "true currency", whatever that means. :-)
and try to put everything on a page linked to this forum?
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December 05, 2013, 01:26:37 AM
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OK Guys!
With the recent price explosion, we have here some revolution in the altcoin world.

everything is now what MAJOR was not so long ago.
We have to change all the categories.

 my proposition:

TRUE CURRENCIES
-BITCOIN
-LITECOIN

THE BIG ONES
-MAJOR
-MINOR

NOTICEABLE
-MAJOR
-MINOR

CANDIDATES
-MAJOR
-MINOR

PURGATORY
-PROMISING
-THE REST


There is a lot to update, I found around 35 new coins.

So long as you stop being biased against GLD for no good reason. There was no instamine, it was set out to have superblocks at the start to make it fairer for day 1 miners as other coins had linear growth but ignored the fact that their difficulties were not growing linearly.

I know plenty of people who had nothing to do with the original team that got some of those coins.

Where the hell did you even get the 3.2% number from. Seriously it's about as erroneous as you could get.

And how exactly is it determined who gets into what category?

Will you be making the unilateral decisions here?
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December 05, 2013, 02:21:28 AM
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So long as you stop being biased against GLD for no good reason. There was no instamine, it was set out to have superblocks at the start to make it fairer for day 1 miners as other coins had linear growth but ignored the fact that their difficulties were not growing linearly.

I know plenty of people who had nothing to do with the original team that got some of those coins.

Where the hell did you even get the 3.2% number from. Seriously it's about as erroneous as you could get.

And how exactly is it determined who gets into what category?

Will you be making the unilateral decisions here?
How much of MicroGuy's koolaid did you drink to actually think super blocks are fair?

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December 05, 2013, 02:48:07 AM
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So long as you stop being biased against GLD for no good reason. There was no instamine, it was set out to have superblocks at the start to make it fairer for day 1 miners as other coins had linear growth but ignored the fact that their difficulties were not growing linearly.

I know plenty of people who had nothing to do with the original team that got some of those coins.

Where the hell did you even get the 3.2% number from. Seriously it's about as erroneous as you could get.

And how exactly is it determined who gets into what category?

Will you be making the unilateral decisions here?
How much of MicroGuy's koolaid did you drink to actually think super blocks are fair?

None.. but while we're on the subject,

How many shitcoins did you make before you thought yourself an expert on anything?

I will say this again,

Other coins that did not have superblocks at the start had an unfair start.
This becomes apparent when you think of the initial difficulty of the coins.
As when the difficulty was really low it was easy to gather tons of coins but as more and more people started mining the difficulty went up and lowered the amount of coins/per hour/per person to a level that makes their initial distribution completely unfair.

Unlike in GLD where we had superblocks for ~2 months straight.

There was plenty of time to "get in".

Take a look at Feathercoin's first 96 hours:

http://cryptometer.org/feathercoin_96_hour_charts.html

In the first 12 hours the difficulty the difficulty grew 10,000 fold...

And there were 2.461M feathercoins produced.

But only 741K of those were produced at a difficulty where the distribution of the coins was fair for early adopters.(In otherwords only 741 thousand of those coins didn't favor those with large mining farms, every other coin produced had a minute share going to the little guy)

So one could say that ~30% of the initially mined feathercoins were distributed evenly amongst the people. The other 70% went straight into the pockets of those with big mining rigs/farms.

Compare that to Goldcoin

http://cryptometer.org/goldcoin_96_hour_charts.html

In the first 12 hours the difficulty remained constant,

And there were 3.138M GoldCoins produced.

Thus 100% of the initially mined GoldCoins were available to mine fairly, even if you want to make the argument that the "newbie" section release was unfair that still only accounts for 36% of the coins.

At least 64%(probably more) of the initially minted GoldCoins were distributed evenly to both big and small miners alike.


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December 06, 2013, 02:19:57 AM
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Thank you for removing the premine from StableCoin, xorxor. However, we're still listed as having 0 starting difficulty, as if it were a bad thing. StableCoin used an aggressive reward scaling system to ensure early miner were not able to get a ton of coins. You can independently verify this here, refer to the minted currency and total supply graphs: http://cryptometer.org/stablecoin_90_day_charts.html

As for this whole debate going on right now... Superblocks worth 10,000 coins at minimum difficulty are in no way fair. Trying to pass them off as such is incredibly disingenuous. If you want to see what fair coin distribution looks like, please look at the graphs of StableCoin. Smiley

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December 06, 2013, 03:17:40 AM
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So long as you stop being biased against GLD for no good reason. There was no instamine, it was set out to have superblocks at the start to make it fairer for day 1 miners as other coins had linear growth but ignored the fact that their difficulties were not growing linearly.

I know plenty of people who had nothing to do with the original team that got some of those coins.

Where the hell did you even get the 3.2% number from. Seriously it's about as erroneous as you could get.

And how exactly is it determined who gets into what category?

Will you be making the unilateral decisions here?
How much of MicroGuy's koolaid did you drink to actually think super blocks are fair?

None.. but while we're on the subject,

How many shitcoins did you make before you thought yourself an expert on anything?

I will say this again,

Other coins that did not have superblocks at the start had an unfair start.
This becomes apparent when you think of the initial difficulty of the coins.
As when the difficulty was really low it was easy to gather tons of coins but as more and more people started mining the difficulty went up and lowered the amount of coins/per hour/per person to a level that makes their initial distribution completely unfair.

Unlike in GLD where we had superblocks for ~2 months straight.

There was plenty of time to "get in".

Take a look at Feathercoin's first 96 hours:

http://cryptometer.org/feathercoin_96_hour_charts.html

In the first 12 hours the difficulty the difficulty grew 10,000 fold...

And there were 2.461M feathercoins produced.

But only 741K of those were produced at a difficulty where the distribution of the coins was fair for early adopters.(In otherwords only 741 thousand of those coins didn't favor those with large mining farms, every other coin produced had a minute share going to the little guy)

So one could say that ~30% of the initially mined feathercoins were distributed evenly amongst the people. The other 70% went straight into the pockets of those with big mining rigs/farms.

Compare that to Goldcoin

http://cryptometer.org/goldcoin_96_hour_charts.html

In the first 12 hours the difficulty remained constant,

And there were 3.138M GoldCoins produced.

Thus 100% of the initially mined GoldCoins were available to mine fairly, even if you want to make the argument that the "newbie" section release was unfair that still only accounts for 36% of the coins.

At least 64%(probably more) of the initially minted GoldCoins were distributed evenly to both big and small miners alike.


Ok, this - what we need is an alt-coin that rewards new miners in a fair manner.  Instead of incentives driven by mining power or first mover advantage, we need an alt-coin that incentivizes new people to also participate - thereby driving greater adoption.  Maybe each block is "mined" when a sufficient quantity of new people use the client, payed evenly across all participants. 
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I wonder why NXT is missing in the list

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December 06, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
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Delete the pre-mine on StableCoin, all the pre-mined coins on Stablecoin were destroyed when the coin was revived.

I assume there is a proof for that, is there ?

DESTRUCTION OF THE PREMINE

As some of you may remember, as part of the old mixing service, there were 1.2 million coins premined to act as the basis of the mixing pool. Of course, this caused much anger within the community, with accusations that the money would be used improperly, among other things. 5 months later, these funds have yet to be touched, so I'm happy to have proved those people wrong on those front.

However, under the new mixing system, these coins are no longer necessary. Accordingly, these coins will be publicly destroyed, as they were never intended to be used for anything other than mixing.

In this case, the 1.2 million coins were created in the genesis block. You might notice this is different than most coins that do their premine in block 1 and onward. This is because there is a well documented quirk within bitcoin that makes the genesis block unspendable. This is because when Satoshi designed the client, he decided not to add the coinbase transaction from the genesis block to the global transaction database.

To make these funds spendable, I added a simple bit of code during the initialization of the client (init.cpp). This code adds the genesis transaction to the global transaction database, making it spendable.
Code:

Code:
       // Genesis block
    const char* pszTimestamp = "June 7 2013, The Times, Prince Philip admitted to hospital for two weeks";
    CTransaction txNew;
    txNew.vin.resize(1);
    txNew.vout.resize(1);
    txNew.vin[0].scriptSig = CScript() << 486604799 << CBigNum(4) << vector<unsigned char>((const unsigned char*)pszTimestamp, (const unsigned char*)pszTimestamp + strlen(pszTimestamp));
    txNew.vout[0].nValue = 1250000 * COIN;
    txNew.vout[0].scriptPubKey = CScript() << ParseHex("0449D77B9B62E0DB1FD6150ECFC5722F31FEE52E585DE31B5AEFAD2CAC415D5698991F8F0B0CBBA7B9F4431BBE79B684876EDFBD369554ACC4182753FA48A3CD80") << OP_CHECKSIG;
    CBlock block;
    block.vtx.push_back(txNew);
    block.hashPrevBlock = 0;
    block.hashMerkleRoot = block.BuildMerkleTree();
    block.nVersion = 1;
    block.nTime    = 1370579804;
    block.nBits    = 0x1e0fffff;
    block.nNonce   = 2788;
                
        uint256 genesisHash("0x0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221");
        uint256 hash = txNew.GetHash();

{
        LOCK(mempool.cs);
        mempool.addUnchecked(hash,txNew);
}
                
{
        CTxDB txdb;
        txdb.TxnBegin();
        CBlockIndex* pindex = mapBlockIndex.find(genesisHash)->second;
        unsigned int nTxPos = pindex->nBlockPos + ::GetSerializeSize(CBlock(), SER_DISK, CLIENT_VERSION) - 1 + GetSizeOfCompactSize(block.vtx.size());
        CDiskTxPos posThisTx(pindex->nFile, pindex->nBlockPos, nTxPos);
    txdb.UpdateTxIndex(txNew.GetHash(), CTxIndex(posThisTx, txNew.vout.size()));
    txdb.TxnCommit();
}


By removing this code, the genesis block becomes unspendable, and the coins are essentially destroyed. This is the most eloquent way to accomplish the goal. Version 1.3 of StableCoin has this bit of code removed. I urge everyone to update immediately.

You can view the relevant commit here: https://github.com/stablecoin/stablecoin/commit/1912b4c1e9fb195c242e57459c613cb8c7846c8b

LOL Genesis Block have already been generated, so the deletion of this code does not imply the deletion of the genesis block  generated. Deletion would be effective if new block chain were generated, what obviously is not the case

The prove is that block 0 hash 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221 is the current genesis block accordiing wallet:



Genesis block date is obviously 7 jun 2013

Code:
$ date -d @1370579804
jun 7 04:36:44 2013

Obviously block explorer is down for hiding premined 1,2 Million, but thanks to artos comments it is easy to realize that premine is ongoing, as shown by http://cryptometer.org/stablecoin_90_day_charts.html

and raw blocks log file http://cryptometer.org/stablecoin_90_day_blocks.txt

Code:
height, hash, diff, time, time-text, time-delta, mint
0, 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221, 0.00024414, 1370579804, 2013-06-07 04:36:44, 0, 1250000
1, 4aa3098e85b00b6e843c01ddb5dcc85a1dd2eada1d2bcb48beadba38a95471f6, 0.00024414, 1370620922, 2013-06-07 16:02:02, 41118, 0
...

Note as hash, date and all data of genesis block are the same as shown by current version of walllet.

So, it seems a clear scam. Author claims to have destroyed the 1,2 Millon premined coins but lies conscienciously because genesis block was  already generated and the unique option is to regenerate a new blockchain without premined block genesis.

Wel, the prove is here.

UPDATE 1

Well, I have debugged current version 1.3 of stableCoin wallet and, soundly, you can see the 1.25 millons coins premined in the print info of block genesis creation:


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12/06/13 15:14:39 StableCoin version v1.3.0.0-g3aaa7ba-beta ($Format:%cD)
12/06/13 15:14:39 Startup time: 12/06/13 15:14:39
12/06/13 15:14:39 Default data directory C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin
12/06/13 15:14:39 Used data directory C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin
12/06/13 15:14:39 Bound to [::]:17500
12/06/13 15:14:39 Bound to 0.0.0.0:17500
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading block index...
12/06/13 15:14:39 dbenv.open LogDir=C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin\database ErrorFile=C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin\db.log
12/06/13 15:14:39 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221
12/06/13 15:14:39 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221
12/06/13 15:14:39 22fafe4f684eed751b2ffea656b0ca28a0ad34c6b584872a96350e09f681f49a
12/06/13 15:14:39 CBlock(hash=0a59605118489aa9cde5, PoW=000003cea8ce31c19c25, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=00000000000000000000, hashMerkleRoot=22fafe4f68, nTime=1370579804, nBits=1e0fffff, nNonce=2788, vtx=1)
12/06/13 15:14:39   CTransaction(hash=22fafe4f68, ver=1, vin.size=1, vout.size=1, nLockTime=0)
    CTxIn(COutPoint(0000000000, -1), coinbase 04ffff001d0104484a756e65203720323031332c205468652054696d65732c205072696e6365205 068696c69702061646d697474656420746f20686f73706974616c20666f722074776f207765656b 73)
    CTxOut(nValue=1250000.00000000, scriptPubKey=0449d77b9b62e0db1fd6150ecfc572)
  vMerkleTree: 22fafe4f68
12/06/13 15:14:39 SetBestChain: new best=0a59605118489aa9cde5  height=0  work=1048577  date=06/07/13 04:36:44
12/06/13 15:14:39  block index              50ms
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading wallet...
12/06/13 15:14:39 nFileVersion = 1030000
12/06/13 15:14:39  wallet                  108ms
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading addresses...
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December 06, 2013, 03:05:44 PM
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Hey, idiot. If you bothered to read the post you would know that THE GENESIS BLOCK IS UNSPENDABLE. It's a bug/oversight within bitcoin that has existed since the very first version of it. The bit of code that was added allowed it to be spent. With it removed, it's back to being unspendable.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block

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Hey, idiot. If you bothered to read the post you would know that THE GENESIS BLOCK IS UNSPENDABLE. It's a bug/oversight within bitcoin that has existed since the very first version of it. The bit of code that was added allowed it to be spent. With it removed, it's back to being unspendable.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Genesis_block

Yes, reading is hard, I know.

LOL it is unspeandable if the current binary shipped is built from the source in github  ... but could not be, and if artos does not provide another update which allows the spending of block genesis coinbase transaction ... because people we are so stupid ...

So, Why he said 1.25 million was destroyed if it is still  into genesis block?  Why are you so interested in it ? It smells to SC...

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12/06/13 15:14:39 StableCoin version v1.3.0.0-g3aaa7ba-beta ($Format:%cD)
12/06/13 15:14:39 Startup time: 12/06/13 15:14:39
12/06/13 15:14:39 Default data directory C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin
12/06/13 15:14:39 Used data directory C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin
12/06/13 15:14:39 Bound to [::]:17500
12/06/13 15:14:39 Bound to 0.0.0.0:17500
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading block index...
12/06/13 15:14:39 dbenv.open LogDir=C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin\database ErrorFile=C:\Users\eagleEye\AppData\Roaming\StableCoin\db.log
12/06/13 15:14:39 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221
12/06/13 15:14:39 0a59605118489aa9cde58e64210d3d56e246758fbabcd1482e54bf4032545221
12/06/13 15:14:39 22fafe4f684eed751b2ffea656b0ca28a0ad34c6b584872a96350e09f681f49a
12/06/13 15:14:39 CBlock(hash=0a59605118489aa9cde5, PoW=000003cea8ce31c19c25, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=00000000000000000000, hashMerkleRoot=22fafe4f68, nTime=1370579804, nBits=1e0fffff, nNonce=2788, vtx=1)
12/06/13 15:14:39   CTransaction(hash=22fafe4f68, ver=1, vin.size=1, vout.size=1, nLockTime=0)
    CTxIn(COutPoint(0000000000, -1), coinbase 04ffff001d0104484a756e65203720323031332c205468652054696d65732c205072696e6365205 068696c69702061646d697474656420746f20686f73706974616c20666f722074776f207765656b 73)
    CTxOut(nValue=1250000.00000000, scriptPubKey=0449d77b9b62e0db1fd6150ecfc572)
  vMerkleTree: 22fafe4f68
12/06/13 15:14:39 SetBestChain: new best=0a59605118489aa9cde5  height=0  work=1048577  date=06/07/13 04:36:44
12/06/13 15:14:39  block index              50ms
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading wallet...
12/06/13 15:14:39 nFileVersion = 1030000
12/06/13 15:14:39  wallet                  108ms
12/06/13 15:14:39 Loading addresses...


It is obvious 1.250 Millions of premined coins are still on blockchain ...
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December 06, 2013, 03:42:26 PM
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LOL it is unspeandable if the current binary shipped is built from the source in github  ... but could not be.
False. The people finding the blocks (aka pools) are running software created from the git. No blocks involving the genesis transaction could ever make it into the block chain because of this.

But it's clear you do not have any knowledge of the bitcoin protocol, nor show any desire to learn, so the effort is wasted on you.

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December 06, 2013, 03:50:26 PM
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LOL it is unspeandable if the current binary shipped is built from the source in github  ... but could not be.
False. The people finding the blocks (aka pools) are running software created from the git. No blocks involving the genesis transaction could ever make it into the block chain because of this.

But it's clear you do not have any knowledge of the bitcoin protocol, nor show any desire to learn, so the effort is wasted on you.

Lol this is his pain.

But artos could fork the chain by means of an updade for making the coinbase tx spendable ... LOL. Great plan !! ... but it has been caught ! !
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December 06, 2013, 04:04:33 PM
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LOL it is unspeandable if the current binary shipped is built from the source in github  ... but could not be.
False. The people finding the blocks (aka pools) are running software created from the git. No blocks involving the genesis transaction could ever make it into the block chain because of this.

But it's clear you do not have any knowledge of the bitcoin protocol, nor show any desire to learn, so the effort is wasted on you.

Lol this is his pain.

But artos could fork the chain by means of an updade for making the coinbase tx spendable ... LOL. Great plan !! ... but it has been caught ! !
Any chain could be hardforked to poof a large amount of coins into existence. What is your point?

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December 06, 2013, 04:12:21 PM
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Please add Gridcoin, GRC.

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December 06, 2013, 04:15:23 PM
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LOL it is unspeandable if the current binary shipped is built from the source in github  ... but could not be.
False. The people finding the blocks (aka pools) are running software created from the git. No blocks involving the genesis transaction could ever make it into the block chain because of this.

But it's clear you do not have any knowledge of the bitcoin protocol, nor show any desire to learn, so the effort is wasted on you.

Lol this is his pain.

But artos could fork the chain by means of an updade for making the coinbase tx spendable ... LOL. Great plan !! ... but it has been caught ! !
Any chain could be hardforked to poof a large amount of coins into existence. What is your point?

Are you retarded?  who are going to avoid artos, who claimed 1.25 millions were "destroyed", do a hardfork for spending the 1.250 Millons premined into blockchain block genesis? Really think people are stupid? You are a scammer or  really retarded ...


Btw, block genesis is still 1.250 millions ... LOL, liar artos claiming it was "destroyed" by deleting the lines of b.genesis ... LOL
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