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January 02, 2013, 11:46:35 PM
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I'm no expert in Smartphones but I suspect this might be important:

Wired:  Ubuntu Linux Comes to Smartphones

Couldn't this be an opportunity for bitcoin?

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January 03, 2013, 12:29:47 AM
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I'm afraid there is no opportunity for bitcoins, but it's a good news :-)

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January 03, 2013, 12:50:22 AM
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Interesting.

Although I'm more excited for https://sailfishos.org

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January 03, 2013, 12:55:45 AM
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I'm looking forward to this.

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January 03, 2013, 01:11:12 AM
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Interesting.

Although I'm more excited for https://sailfishos.org
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January 03, 2013, 01:11:21 AM
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Richard Stallman and the FSF dislike Ubanto, so I also don't like it because it infringes on your freedumbs and spies on you.

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January 03, 2013, 09:57:22 PM
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Richard Stallman and the FSF dislike Ubanto, so I also don't like it because it infringes on your freedumbs and spies on you.

The evidence?

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January 03, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
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Why is it?

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January 03, 2013, 11:03:52 PM
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they should work on getting fl studio or combat arms to work on UBUNTU first damnit..
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January 03, 2013, 11:29:01 PM
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I used to be a fan of Maemo, Mer and Meego, also active in the community for quite some time. Since many people from that community are now involved with Sailfishos, I'm interested.

Ubuntu phone turns me off because I like simplistic user interfaces. Their desktop ui is a total clusterfuck and phone interface seems to follow suit.

A phone OS called Tizen is also in my watchlist since it's using enlightenment foundation libraries (EFL) for the UI. The smoothest thing since iOS. Though, like Ubuntu, they appear to fail with the simplicity.
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January 03, 2013, 11:30:54 PM
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Richard Stallman and the FSF dislike Ubanto, so I also don't like it because it infringes on your freedumbs and spies on you.

The evidence?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/stallman_on_ubuntu_spyware/
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January 03, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
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Just another linux based phone os, is to be expected..

Ubuntu has grown to be one of the largest corporate linux OS distro's.

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January 03, 2013, 11:35:49 PM
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Richard Stallman and the FSF dislike Ubanto, so I also don't like it because it infringes on your freedumbs and spies on you.

The evidence?

The current decision of Ubanto's founding company, Canonical, of integrating desktop amazon searches by default, and the fact they send your queries to their own servers, for who knows what.

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January 04, 2013, 12:55:45 AM
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The current decision of Ubanto's founding company, Canonical, of integrating desktop amazon searches by default, and the fact they send your queries to their own servers, for who knows what.

Still, even for people who don't like Ubuntu (I myself run a vanilla Debian distrib), I think it's still a good news because it might give an incentive for constructors to ensure their hardware is FOSS compliant.

In other words, Ubuntu can be another troyan horse for free software.

Again, I'm no expert in these things but that's how I see it anyway. 

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January 04, 2013, 01:54:41 AM
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I for one, don't really mind of one way or the other, I refuse to use ubuntu on principal, but not because 'install gentoo' told me so. I think debian derivations are the bees knees by the way.


But I'm a sucker for Arch and Open SuSe.


Which reminds me to install open suse again.

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January 04, 2013, 08:00:29 PM
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I used to be a fan of Maemo, Mer and Meego, also active in the community for quite some time. Since many people from that community are now involved with Sailfishos, I'm interested.

Ubuntu phone turns me off because I like simplistic user interfaces. Their desktop ui is a total clusterfuck and phone interface seems to follow suit.

A phone OS called Tizen is also in my watchlist since it's using enlightenment foundation libraries (EFL) for the UI. The smoothest thing since iOS. Though, like Ubuntu, they appear to fail with the simplicity.

Personally I don't like this Nokia Linuxes. Nokia used to be the leader of mobile phones in Europe, but they lost their train, because they gave to much support to the not Open source OS, like Window and Symbian.
It's long time I analysed for the last time their Maemo Os, but it was worse, from my point of view than Android, even if I'd like to change Android to an really Open source Os on my mobile.
To those who prefer Nokia Linux OS's (like Maemo) to Ubuntu, I'd like to ask whether that OS's support postgresql, because Android doesn't.


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January 04, 2013, 10:18:49 PM
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Richard Stallman and the FSF dislike Ubanto, so I also don't like it because it infringes on your freedumbs and spies on you.

The evidence?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/12/07/stallman_on_ubuntu_spyware/
Well, on the one hand I'm glad I use Ubuntu 12.04 (since this "spyware" is introduced on 12.10). But on the other hand I'm not overly bothered that the spying is limited to the "Home Lens" unified search feature (which I don't have let alone use) including recommendations from Amazon.

"As bad as Windows"? Oh HELL NO.
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January 05, 2013, 04:21:46 PM
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To those who prefer Nokia Linux OS's (like Maemo) to Ubuntu, I'd like to ask whether that OS's support postgresql, because Android doesn't.
yes. postgresql was available for Maemo. I don't know a thing about Meego but Maemo 4 and 5 were the perfection Grin (imo of course) Most debian applications worked with little modifications and it was possible to directly install and boot debian or latter, ubuntu too, directly on the devices (N800/N810/N900)
Nokia had an application manager back in 2005!!! That was fucking years Apple "invented" App Store.

But that was long time ago.. Now, Nokia can go to hell and stay down there with their Microsoft alliance. Google has already stated they will not write apps for windows phone. I sincerely hope other follow suit.
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January 06, 2013, 05:56:23 PM
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I don't understand why this is so exciting. What's the difference between using android and ubuntu if you use proprietary software anyway. Simply buy an OpenMoko, install debian and use free software only. That's the real deal and possible since years.

Next development steps to go (I'm working on the designs):
1. A decentralized cryptoexchange protocol
2. A cryptocoin with a fix USD/Coin rate
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January 06, 2013, 09:47:35 PM
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I don't understand why this is so exciting. What's the difference between using android and ubuntu if you use proprietary software anyway. Simply buy an OpenMoko, install debian and use free software only. That's the real deal and possible since years.
Did you not actually read the article? You only have to get through the first paragraph to see what makes this interesting...

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unlike other smartphone operating systems, it will work as a full desktop OS when connected to a monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

Also, developed in private != proprietary

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January 06, 2013, 11:15:58 PM
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I don't understand why this is so exciting. What's the difference between using android and ubuntu if you use proprietary software anyway. Simply buy an OpenMoko, install debian and use free software only. That's the real deal and possible since years.
Have you ever used OpenMoko in your life?

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January 07, 2013, 07:19:08 AM
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Yes. I know it's not a very powerful device but it's enough for the necessary actions and at least it's built by 'free hardware'. Don't know about any other mobile device you are fully able to control the hardware.

Next development steps to go (I'm working on the designs):
1. A decentralized cryptoexchange protocol
2. A cryptocoin with a fix USD/Coin rate
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