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September 23, 2017, 03:56:57 PM
Last edit: September 23, 2017, 04:18:03 PM by kaedcoin
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I believe that the fee should be changed from 0.1 to 0.01 lisk. This would require a soft fork but would benefit the all voters / community.

Yeah it would be a good thing too.

Changes i'd like to see :

  • Lower transaction fees (0.1 to 0.01 LSK or 0.05 LSK max)
  • Maybe lowering voting fees too (1 to 0.5 LSK ?)
  • Hard-coded minimal sharing for delegates (50% ?Smiley)
  • More delegates (200, 1000 ?) with more delegates per batch of course, and/or far lower voting fees

With the recent "surge" in LSK price, entry ticket is far more expensive. If we want mass adoption for LSK, i think fees have to be cheaper AND rewards better.


How long is the average time to receive coins from the delegate pools? I am waiting 11 days now, nothing there yet. Is that normal?

It depends on
1) Each delegate sharing %. The higher the % is, the shorter you'll have to wait
2) If a pool is involved, and pool rules
3) Your wallet wealth (or "vote power")
4) Minimal payout threshold for each delegate and each pool involved
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September 23, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
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what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate Thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted. So the effective share is much smaller. Tried to contact them via PM, at forum.lisk.io etc. but never get any reaction from them.

Indeed. It is not good idea to make minimum 0.2 Lisk. The minimum should be no less 0.5. Better 1Lisk.
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September 23, 2017, 05:53:51 PM
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Voters, if you want to earn more please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

There are a lot of standby delegates who share 50%+ profit
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September 23, 2017, 05:57:33 PM
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Voters, if you want to earn more please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

There are a lot of standby delegates who share 50%+ profit


For example :

Axente - 50%
Cad789 - 50%
Blink - 90%
thrice.pi_prometheus - 50%
sonobit - 60%
bangomatic - 50%
bitseed - 50%
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September 23, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
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Voters, if you want to earn more please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

There are a lot of standby delegates who share 50%+ profit


thank you for the list. http://earnlisk.com provides an even longer list.
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September 23, 2017, 06:12:05 PM
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Vote Robinhood+liskpro.com+liberspirita and you'll get 120% of RobinHood starting on 1st october. No doubt with it, even if liskpro.com is not forging yet, rewards will be 6 lisks per block instead of 5.

Special offer : 1 lisk will be fund back to all voters on 3 delegates on 1st october... Price of vote cannot be a problem.
on this free vote, i do agree many voters should unvote some delegates and vote some others not in 101.

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September 23, 2017, 06:13:58 PM
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Voters, if you want to earn more please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

There are a lot of standby delegates who share 50%+ profit


thank you for the list. http://earnlisk.com provides an even longer list.
this site is far out of date

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September 23, 2017, 06:24:27 PM
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Voters, if you want to earn more please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

There are a lot of standby delegates who share 50%+ profit


thank you for the list. http://earnlisk.com provides an even longer list.
this site is far out of date

OK. then do you have a better list? if yes, then please share it with us.
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September 23, 2017, 06:57:57 PM
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Hello everyone!
As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016   Grin
I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting next week!
I am also helping Lisk growth and I already donated to various Lisk awareness projects !
For more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494
Vote for samuray - rank 94 !  Wink

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September 23, 2017, 08:00:22 PM
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Hello everyone!
As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016   Grin
I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting next week!
I am also helping Lisk growth and I already donated to various Lisk awareness projects !
For more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494
Vote for samuray - rank 94 !  Wink

Thank you Delegate samuray. I've already voted for you, but i won't unvote you when i'll change my votes in a few days.
May all the delegates do the same.
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September 23, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
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Hello everyone!
As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016   Grin
I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting next week!
I am also helping Lisk growth and I already donated to various Lisk awareness projects !
For more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494
Vote for samuray - rank 94 !  Wink

Thank you Delegate samuray. I've already voted for you, but i won't unvote you when i'll change my votes in a few days.
May all the delegates do the same.

i think it is too late no to share more. any delegate that no starts to share more has to be unvoted. the should have shared more from the beginning.
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September 23, 2017, 10:02:18 PM
Last edit: September 23, 2017, 11:03:33 PM by Termie
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this site is far out of date

OK. then do you have a better list? if yes, then please share it with us.

I´m using this one:
https://dpostools.com/LISK/

here you can also recognize how much "Lisk Elite" has overtaken the 101 delegates list meanwhile.
Just consider the many black /!\ at the right side - each of them is the 25% "Elite". Unbearable.
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September 23, 2017, 11:16:23 PM
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Delegate techbytes is one of the top payout profit sharing pool now with all the unvotes.  Payout increase from 50% to 70% this Sunday.   Grin Wink

https://lisk.cryptopools.com


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September 24, 2017, 12:06:06 AM
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Please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

All of them are from GDT. GDT is very bad for voters
Done.

This is my statistic for 3 months:



Wonder - why there is no payment from philhellmuth? And just one small payment from phoenix1969?
kushed.delegate, vi1son, vrlc92 just added no info so far.
liskpool_com_01 - minimum payout 10 Lisk - not accumulated so far.
liberspirita - works with robinhood - the best pool ever!

Some of pool from top 101 was deleted because I didn't got any Lisk from them:
bitbanksy, densmirnov, nerigal, stellardynamic, punkrock, hagie
If someone has statistic pools who didn't pay but in top 101 send please.

Also in my voting list:



odsejen - just 20% so tink to unvote
liskpro.com - works with robinhood - the best pool ever!

Let me explain, how you get paid by the GDT members, you've named here. We all pay LSK to the account gdt_bonus every week. Those LSK go to the account gdtpool and from this account you get paid. But only if you are a Gold Voter. To be a Gold Voter, you have to vote for all GDT members. After you've voted for all GDT members, you are a Gold Voter and you get paid automatically by gdtpool. Additionally to these payments, some GDT members act as a pool (on their own). But in fact, you get LSK from every GDT member, as long as you vote for all.

By the way: As soon as the delegate gdtpool is forging, payouts will increase drastically.
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September 24, 2017, 12:58:47 AM
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when added Lisk to    Bitfinex are Bithumb ?
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September 24, 2017, 02:01:01 AM
Last edit: September 24, 2017, 02:17:54 AM by jubalix
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Ok so I have been using lisk nano 0.12 for ages

I decided to try the latest client 1.10

When I log in with my pass phrase it does not open the same LISK address

I can see my lisk on the lisk blockchain

So ok I went to the 0.12 to send my lisk to a new 1.10 address

my password opens my 0.12 client no worries.

however no matter what I try to send I get


"Error An error occurred while sending the transaction."
in the 0.12


So exactly how do I access my LISK?

Admitted Practicing Lawyer::BTC/Crypto Specialist. B.Engineering/B.Laws

https://www.binance.com/?ref=10062065
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September 24, 2017, 05:01:59 AM
Last edit: September 24, 2017, 04:19:51 PM by MrPresident
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Please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only

All of them are from GDT. GDT is very bad for voters
Done.

This is my statistic for 3 months:



Wonder - why there is no payment from philhellmuth? And just one small payment from phoenix1969?
kushed.delegate, vi1son, vrlc92 just added no info so far.
liskpool_com_01 - minimum payout 10 Lisk - not accumulated so far.
liberspirita - works with robinhood - the best pool ever!

Some of pool from top 101 was deleted because I didn't got any Lisk from them:
bitbanksy, densmirnov, nerigal, stellardynamic, punkrock, hagie
If someone has statistic pools who didn't pay but in top 101 send please.

Also in my voting list:



odsejen - just 20% so tink to unvote
liskpro.com - works with robinhood - the best pool ever!
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It can be confusing, I understand.
My delegate (Phoenix1969 donates 882 lisk to the elite payout pot every week (30%). On top of that, my personal Delegate pool pays you another 20%. payouts triggered every few days with a low threshold. https://vote.phoenix1969.win not to mention all the donations.
...meaning I return well over 50% back to the lisk community. Hope that helps?
I've also posted the transparency page nearly every post: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=466&p=6024


Adlisk campaign begins now by the way.
Follow google adwords instructions for creating banner ads.
Here are some places/tools to start:
https://www.google.com/webdesigner/
https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/7031480?hl=en&ref_topic=3121943 size fprmats

*I may be using "responsive ads" format as explained here: https://support.google.com/adwords/answer/6363750

Please submit your entries directly to me in lisk.chat. http://lisk.chat:3000/direct/Phoenix1969
You may submit up to 5 ads for the competition. I prefer html5
You have a week. I will then place your entries in lisk forum to be voted on to determine the best 3 banners to advertise.
1st place is 100 lisk, 2nd is 75 lisk, and 3rd is 50 lisk.
So...  225 prizepool this segment with a rough target of 500 lisk to use for advertising them should leave us with over half for segment 2 of the campaign.


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September 24, 2017, 08:41:34 AM
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what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate Thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted. So the effective share is much smaller. Tried to contact them via PM, at forum.lisk.io etc. but never get any reaction from them.

Indeed. It is not good idea to make minimum 0.2 Lisk. The minimum should be no less 0.5. Better 1Lisk.
I set a minimum threshold of 3 lisk. I think 1 is too low. Small voters will lose 10% on tx fees of their earnings.
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September 24, 2017, 09:56:05 AM
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Dear Lisker !



Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

Smiley

Let's go to the moon.
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September 24, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
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what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate Thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted. So the effective share is much smaller. Tried to contact them via PM, at forum.lisk.io etc. but never get any reaction from them.

Indeed. It is not good idea to make minimum 0.2 Lisk. The minimum should be no less 0.5. Better 1Lisk.
I set a minimum threshold of 3 lisk. I think 1 is too low. Small voters will lose 10% on tx fees of their earnings.

It's hard to find a good balance, where you pay out frequently enough so voters can see their returns, while you don't dilute their returns by sending too frequently.

At first I paid out every few days using a 4 Lisk threshold, but as more and more smaller voters showed up, I started to pay out once per week and lowered the threshold to 2 Lisk.
In this case the transaction fee is no more than 5% while on avarage is much lower (because 7 days gives a chance to accumulate more than 2 lisk reward), while once a week still a fairly frequent payout schedule so voters won't wonder when they are getting their reward..
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