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September 24, 2017, 08:41:34 AM
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what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate Thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted. So the effective share is much smaller. Tried to contact them via PM, at forum.lisk.io etc. but never get any reaction from them.

Indeed. It is not good idea to make minimum 0.2 Lisk. The minimum should be no less 0.5. Better 1Lisk.
I set a minimum threshold of 3 lisk. I think 1 is too low. Small voters will lose 10% on tx fees of their earnings.
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September 24, 2017, 09:56:05 AM
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Dear Lisker !



Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

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September 24, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
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what concerns me also since longer time is #1 delegate Thepool.io. Their acutally 75% share sounds fair, but their 0.2 Lisk payout threshold is such stupid. As smaller voter, I get average payouts of ~0.25 Lisk, but each time 0.10 Lisk network fee will be deducted. So the effective share is much smaller. Tried to contact them via PM, at forum.lisk.io etc. but never get any reaction from them.

Indeed. It is not good idea to make minimum 0.2 Lisk. The minimum should be no less 0.5. Better 1Lisk.
I set a minimum threshold of 3 lisk. I think 1 is too low. Small voters will lose 10% on tx fees of their earnings.

It's hard to find a good balance, where you pay out frequently enough so voters can see their returns, while you don't dilute their returns by sending too frequently.

At first I paid out every few days using a 4 Lisk threshold, but as more and more smaller voters showed up, I started to pay out once per week and lowered the threshold to 2 Lisk.
In this case the transaction fee is no more than 5% while on avarage is much lower (because 7 days gives a chance to accumulate more than 2 lisk reward), while once a week still a fairly frequent payout schedule so voters won't wonder when they are getting their reward..

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September 24, 2017, 01:55:11 PM
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Delegate techbytes is one of the top payout profit sharing pool now with all the unvotes.  Payout increase from 50% to 70% this Sunday.   Grin Wink

https://lisk.cryptopools.com


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Hey mate, can you explain us why people ask to unvote you ? Is it only because you support "Ark" too ?

I set a minimum threshold of 3 lisk. I think 1 is too low. Small voters will lose 10% on tx fees of their earnings.

3 is a good setting imho. I'm "small voter" and even if i won't collect my payout before months, i think that's better than to loose a higher % due to fees...

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September 24, 2017, 02:08:19 PM
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For my supporters, delegate techbytes payout 100% this week.  For all who unvoted me this past week, your lost is everyone else's gain.   Grin Cheesy


Want 100% payout for the rest of 2017? Unvote delegate "gdtpool". No penalty. Just unvote delegate "gdtpool" and get additional 30% payout. Simple.

https://explorer.lisk.4miners.net/delegate/gdtpool/voters/history


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September 24th top 10 voters payout:

5956008546195861531L - 139.60548000
8786850882578576673L - 111.03084000
6488081439439903759L - 63.53079000
10054508447957738881L - 50.97351000
2890552557949034257L - >unvoted so zero for you
12401309028077762187L - 46.87125000
5732830783198562475L - 45.03363000
17502875824699407328L - 45.02979000
16215708213679211411L - 48.42735000
8501575358561912180L - 41.84241000
15021706936228711665L - 39.95976000


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To answer above question from @kaedcoin, I'm getting unvoted because people don't like what I'm doing with my forged Lisk and also because GDT group wants to get their GDTPOOL in top 101.  That's the game of DPoS.  Do what you got to do to get that forging spot.

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September 24, 2017, 02:23:43 PM
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To answer above question from @kaedcoin, I'm getting unvoted because people don't like what I'm doing with my forged Lisk and also because GDT group wants to get their GDTPOOL in top 101.  That's the game of DPoS.  Do what you got to do to get that forging spot.

Okay i see. Smiley Thanks !

I didn't unvote you 'cause there was no real and acceptable reason to do it. No "proof" of anything wrong.
But i vote gdtpool too since the beginning of my LSK holding so no "bonus" for me Wink

BTW There are lots of less valuable delegates to get out of the top101 if the only purpose of this unvoting campaign is to get gdtpool on the top101.
It's a bit sad to see people wanting to get a 50%+ sharing delegate out... As if we had plenty !

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September 24, 2017, 04:32:52 PM
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Voters,

Please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only
+ gdptool

Do not unvote techbytes (70% share). You will receive that pool's reward via cryptopools.com
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September 24, 2017, 04:37:36 PM
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Hello all,
Yesterday I've sent my third payout to all my voters, thanks for the votes!
For today I've released my 4th Lisk promotion video:


For more Lisk promotion please vote for philhellmuth

Vote for forging Lisk delegate philhellmuth 35% SHARE POOL and start collecting weekly rewards!

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September 24, 2017, 06:28:55 PM
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I'd like to take a moment to discuss/speculate a possible listing on Bithumb.

Here is what happened:
The Asia tour details were laid out explicitly before it began, but the Lisk team did not mention a meeting with Bithumb. During the tour, we saw tweets about them meeting with Bithumb. Now, those tweets have since been deleted.

This makes me wonder why Lisk did not announce the meeting beforehand. Perhaps it was because they were unsure about how the meeting would go in terms of coming to a listing agreement? Since the tweet was deleted, I wonder why that could be. I can't see a reason that Lisk would change their minds after being calculated with the news/tweet in the first place. Maybe Bithumb did not like the possibility of rumors before their official announcement of a listing? Maybe Lisk found out they wouldn't be listed? Maybe to avoid speculation like I am doing right now?

The goal of the tour is to bring awareness to the Asian markets and more accessibility via Bithumb would be a huge win for Lisk.

What do you guys think?


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September 24, 2017, 07:41:35 PM
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Voters,

Please consider unvote the following delegate

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only
+ gdptool

Do not unvote techbytes (70% share). You will receive that pool's reward via cryptopools.com

GDTpool would be sharing 90% rewards with voters, so please consider voting for it.

Many Lisk Pools | Lisk delegate forrest - 25% forging reward shared with voters - http://lisk.forrestpool.win
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September 24, 2017, 07:46:39 PM
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hello guys, consider voting for 32 GDT delegates with ONLY 1 LSK to get gdtpool rewards automatically every week.

We do not pay ourselves so maximum reward goes out to you!!
Additionally there are 19 GDT members acting as individual pools, so you would be receiving separate payouts from each of them.

The pool list usually gets a small change on 1st of every month, so remember to check the list then. Cheers!



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September 24, 2017, 08:38:29 PM
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To answer above question from @kaedcoin, I'm getting unvoted because people don't like what I'm doing with my forged Lisk and also because GDT group wants to get their GDTPOOL in top 101.  That's the game of DPoS.  Do what you got to do to get that forging spot.

Im sorry that you think that way.
The reason everyone is unvoting you (not only GDT) is because you have sold all your forged Lisks, including the funds reserved for APP's development.
On top of that, for the last year you have no contributions to Lisk at all.

Everyone knows you are focused on ARK and thats ok, but Lisk doesnt need any delegates that are selling all their holdings to support only other projects or themselfs.

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September 24, 2017, 08:47:08 PM
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Hello, communitypool weekly 80% payout done with minimum 1 LSK. Track pending balance at https://communitypool.info if you don't get reward. Thank to all voters for your continuous support.

Communitypool is 80% reward sharing pool with voters. Due to high reward % and low rank at 85 , communitypool is one of highest payout pool currently. You can check here: https://dpostools.com/LISK . And you just need to use 1 from your 101 vote slot. So if you have free slot to vote, kindly consider to vote for communitypool. Thanks.

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September 24, 2017, 08:48:41 PM
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In the war of delegates

Sorry if the question was always asked, but on the lite wallet on login.lisk.io

Is possible that my votes have disappear?

I always receive my Elite rewards, but not really sure if all is ok.

Thanks !

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September 24, 2017, 08:52:59 PM
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In the war of delegates

Sorry if the question was always asked, but on the lite wallet on login.lisk.io

Is possible that my votes have disappear?

I always receive my Elite rewards, but not really sure if all is ok.

Thanks !

No, it will stay forever until you change.

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September 24, 2017, 09:06:19 PM
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For my supporters, delegate techbytes payout 100% this week.  For all who unvoted me this past week, your lost is everyone else's gain.   Grin Cheesy

To answer above question from @kaedcoin, I'm getting unvoted because people don't like what I'm doing with my forged Lisk and also because GDT group wants to get their GDTPOOL in top 101.  That's the game of DPoS.  Do what you got to do to get that forging spot.

You are correct, I unvoted you because I don't like what you are doing with your forged Lisk.  I watch lisk chat, and I saw where you don't argue that you are just selling your 50% of forged lisk and tell us if we don't like it we should unvote you; so I did.  and here it is for anyone to see
https://lisk.chat/channel/trading?msg=5Tnajbb7NfSYyH6BR

So now you are trying to do 100% sharing this week, just to screw with the lisk system.  You are not doing anything good for lisk and just enjoy taking what profits you can and then screwing with it.  You are one of the reasons lisk price isn't going up but ark is, you are selling your lisk and buying ark which you are a part of.  But you just put the blame on everyone else. 
If you wanted to stay forging you could have just done something for lisk.  this is all your fault
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September 24, 2017, 09:23:51 PM
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no need for a discussion just unvote techbytes!

as you see alot off ppl dont want you as a delegate anymore.

when techbytes is out the top 101,
GDT pool is getting a forging spot.
Easy choice.

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September 24, 2017, 09:31:30 PM
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For my supporters, delegate techbytes payout 100% this week.  For all who unvoted me this past week, your lost is everyone else's gain.   Grin Cheesy

To answer above question from @kaedcoin, I'm getting unvoted because people don't like what I'm doing with my forged Lisk and also because GDT group wants to get their GDTPOOL in top 101.  That's the game of DPoS.  Do what you got to do to get that forging spot.

You are correct, I unvoted you because I don't like what you are doing with your forged Lisk.  I watch lisk chat, and I saw where you don't argue that you are just selling your 50% of forged lisk and tell us if we don't like it we should unvote you; so I did.  and here it is for anyone to see
https://lisk.chat/channel/trading?msg=5Tnajbb7NfSYyH6BR

So now you are trying to do 100% sharing this week, just to screw with the lisk system.  You are not doing anything good for lisk and just enjoy taking what profits you can and then screwing with it.  You are one of the reasons lisk price isn't going up but ark is, you are selling your lisk and buying ark which you are a part of.  But you just put the blame on everyone else.  
If you wanted to stay forging you could have just done something for lisk.  this is all your fault

This is DPoS, vote however you like.  Time will tell if Lisk will be controlled by voting cartels or profit sharing pools.

With lisk dpos, delegates can get away with selling their forged lisk.  If you look at ARK dpos, delegates would need to keep buying or become profit sharing pool to remain active.

So if you want 100% payout, you know what you need to do. 

https://lisk.cryptopools.com


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@Techbytes : Is it true that you sold your LSK to support another project ? :/


no need for a discussion just unvote techbytes!

as you see alot off ppl dont want you as a delegate anymore.

when techbytes is out the top 101,
GDT pool is getting a forging spot.
Easy choice.

As far as i know, it seems that only GDTpool members want to kick techbytes out the top101 list.


hello guys, consider voting for 32 GDT delegates with ONLY 1 LSK to get gdtpool rewards automatically every week.

We do not pay ourselves so maximum reward goes out to you!!
Additionally there are 19 GDT members acting as individual pools, so you would be receiving separate payouts from each of them.

The pool list usually gets a small change on 1st of every month, so remember to check the list then. Cheers!




So, this is GDT pool member list with individual sharing for each delegate, from your own website : https://pool.liskgdt.net/members

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1   4miners.net   16010222169256538112L   86   No
2   bioly   7984234674117396356L   22   Yes, 25%
3   cc001   6787154358850114730L   16   No
4   corsaro   3026381832248350807L   36   Yes, 10%
5   dakk   2324852447570841050L   69   Yes, 15%
6   digitron   486065688988044358L   106   No
7   eclipsun   17584737652648280645L   76   No
8   forrest   11416406146107258985L   7   Yes, 25%
9   gdtpool   1251806989552612274L   104   Yes, 90%
10   goldeneye   15056673209583244182L   58   No
11   gr33ndrag0n   194109334904015388L   48   No
12   grumlin   16979707772780220012L   67   No
13   hagie   8466190194079547581L   75   Yes, 40%
14   hmachado   8858064098621060602L   87   No
15   joel   7621048351401864465L   95   Yes, 15%
16   kushed.delegate   4225472009432714154L   66   Yes, 40%
17   liskgate   16356037149140416854L   34   No
18   liskit   10310263204519541551L   50   Yes, 20%
19   mrv   11380384760969655418L   45   Yes, 5%
20   nerigal   3741683474356548491L   42   Yes, 25%
21   ntelo   6674162710313805686L   77   Yes, 20%
22   ondin   765057514163296046L   39   Yes, 25%
23   philhellmuth   3706844901938026254L   83   Yes, 30%
24   punkrock   6853061742992593192L   49   No
25   redsn0w   15963641443478982497L   84   Yes, 10%
26   sgdias   10934306629196932988L   53   Yes, 30%
27   slasheks   17589464102226817833L   98   Yes, 35%
28   splatters   13088626869816331666L   91   Yes, 10%
29   stoner19   11597351929102125156L   105   No
30   tembo   2433857930558702776L   5   Yes, 25%
31   vekexasia   9102643396261850794L   102   Yes, 25%
32   vi1son   16564709774155482395L   89   Yes, 40%

Can you tell us, how exactly do every GDTpool member contribute to the pool ?
How many LSK do they send to the pool for each block they forge ?

Can you explain why there are so many delegates not sharing at all ? (0% : 11 delegates !)
And many others sharing less than 25% ? (<25% : 8 delegates !)
And noone (except GDTpool itself) sharing more than 40% ?

Why should we vote for you guys when there are delegates who share far more than most of yours ?

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The pool list usually gets a small change on 1st of every month, so remember to check the list then.

And you're telling us that "usually", each month, there's a change on the list and what ? We have to change our vote every month, which means votepaying 1.1 LSK ? Either i don't understand what you said or you're kidding, right ?





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September 24, 2017, 10:11:19 PM
 #41860

@Techbytes : Is it true that you sold your LSK to support another project ? :/

Not true. 


-tb-

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