MalReynolds
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April 14, 2016, 08:37:02 PM |
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i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?
Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago. This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one.
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lokojones
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April 14, 2016, 08:38:15 PM |
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How I can vote for delagate and is any benefit for me if I vote? Regards
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cannabanana
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April 14, 2016, 08:38:45 PM |
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@LiskHQ - All the talk above aon testnet whales has me wondering about mainnet whales.
We can use the blockchain explorer to do a snapshot of the top 100 accounts (or even all accounts) at launch to get some idea of what is in the genesis block. However, individual ICO investors had multiple exchanges. So at launch many people will have multiple accounts spread over the genesis block.
Can you / will you please release a spreadsheet showing how many accounts (not exchanges) there were in the ICO, and the total amount of Lisk to be allocated to each ICO account?
This would be very interesting information to understand the initial distribution of Lisk.
+1 yes, please release a list.
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ZenFr
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April 14, 2016, 08:44:52 PM |
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so a delegate will need the support of at least three hundred voters to become a member of the magic 101 circle?
There's other considerations. Not all testnet users are equal, some are now whales. Several have hit the faucets repeatedly and accumulated a lot. Plus, the 101 have forged a lot and most now have 10,000 - 20,000 each. So you can become a testnet delegate if you get 15-20 out of the testnet 101 to sponsor you.Max, Oliver and Joel have pulled out of instantly putting people in the 101 with their testnet millions and the testnet is now adjusting to "new rules and realities" that came into effect only a few days ago. It is not "voting chaos", but almost. Wasn't the faucet limit one per address? How did they accumulate a lot of lisk? Can you tell us some nicknames? most faucets can be spammed by changing your ip address I don't want to vote for IP spammer !
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MalReynolds
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April 14, 2016, 09:15:20 PM |
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i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?
Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago. This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one. search on the explorer : https://explorer.lisk.io/address/1748025357855339697LBalance : 39286.07882698 LISK forged : 6510.65841671 LISK - ---------------------------------- Difference 32775,42041027 LISK (90% from faucet) tx https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/825408615658378756etcetera , etcetera and etcetera. Huh. Interesting. Good job. Well, for what it's worth, *** I *** never spammed the faucet....
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wasref
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April 14, 2016, 09:16:10 PM |
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Historically, MarketCap ranking is directly proportional to Coin Popularity. Based on graph below, clearly Lisk will reach #3 on MarketCap soon after launch. So probably $300M-$500M MarketCap, which means Lisk should be at $3 to $5When Lisk's popularity surpasses Ethereum's popularity, then you can expect Lisk to go above $10 Another graph (Google trends): Interesting is also the correlation between Lisk and Yobit. With other words: Lisk helps yobit to get more attention. ;-) i was wondering why they didnt add ethereum to google trends to show on graph me being such a fab guy il do it for you yes guys you were dreaming lisk aint beating ETH
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From Above
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April 14, 2016, 09:17:07 PM |
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i have seen Phoenix1969 has 39271.07783689 lisk , he is one of those faucet spammers ?
Who knows? There were a lot of people that got large amounts of testnet Lisk from Oliver and Joel at the start. You can't just look at somebody with a high number of Lisk and automatically say they spammed the faucet. Testnet Lisk is free and has no value. It is used for TESTS. Nobody was really keeping track of it at the start and it's only important NOW because the testnet population is having to vote for delegates since about three days ago. This is an interesting intellectual exercise but not a practical one. search on the explorer : https://explorer.lisk.io/address/1748025357855339697LBalance : 39286.07882698 LISK forged : 6510.65841671 LISK - ---------------------------------- Difference 32775,42041027 LISK (90% from faucet) tx https://explorer.lisk.io/tx/825408615658378756etcetera , etcetera and etcetera. Huh. Interesting. Good job. Well, for what it's worth, *** I *** never spammed the faucet.... just make a list of all facuet spammers and exclude em from becoming forgerz in the future on main net ~CfA~
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April 14, 2016, 09:19:53 PM |
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Maybe Joel did only the week-1-newsletter-participants and the rest will follow soon.
I'm a week 2 participant and I got my email. Did joel respond to any of you guys when you sent your address?
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From Above
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April 14, 2016, 09:20:51 PM |
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is MAX a ´cryptocurrency DEVELOPER? what is his background,expertise. also please can we see coding history of OLIVIER?
~CfA~
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batmanbad
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April 14, 2016, 09:21:08 PM |
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Huh. Interesting. Good job. Well, for what it's worth, *** I *** never spammed the faucet.... thank you, he is one of the 2-3 faucet spammers of 20.000 30.000 LiSk i don 't vote for him i will make a list in the next hours
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wasref
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April 14, 2016, 09:22:37 PM |
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ZenFr
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April 14, 2016, 09:23:57 PM |
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thank you, he is one of the 2-3 faucet spammers of 20.000 30.000 LiSk
i don 't vote for him
i will make a list in the next hours
Yes, please. I don't vote for them too ! Blacklisted the IP spammer !
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cannabanana
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April 14, 2016, 09:24:50 PM |
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LOL you think everyone searching waves on google are looking for your coin and not the real thing the coin was named after? AHAHAHAHAH crazy.
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wasref
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April 14, 2016, 09:26:33 PM |
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LOL you think everyone searching waves on google are looking for your coin and not the real thing the coin was named after? AHAHAHAHAH crazy. lol just what i think you would do. you think i didnt know that million things waves can be searched for. you clearly ignored the first chart of ethereum and lisk
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batmanbad
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April 14, 2016, 09:26:48 PM |
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Huh. Interesting. Good job. Well, for what it's worth, *** I *** never spammed the faucet.... thank you, he is one of the 2-3 faucet spammers of 20.000 30.000 LiSk i don 't vote for him i will make a list in the next hours Yes, please. I don't vote for them too ! Blacklisted the IP spammer ! ofc
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cannabanana
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April 14, 2016, 09:30:03 PM |
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LOL you think everyone searching waves on google are looking for your coin and not the real thing the coin was named after? AHAHAHAHAH crazy. lol just what i think you would do. you think i didnt know that million things waves can be searched for. you clearly ignored the first chart of ethereum and lisk i like this one better
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BlockChainr
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April 14, 2016, 09:35:17 PM |
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LOL you think everyone searching waves on google are looking for your coin and not the real thing the coin was named after? AHAHAHAHAH crazy. lol just what i think you would do. you think i didnt know that million things waves can be searched for. you clearly ignored the first chart of ethereum and lisk Hey moron, you should compare "Lisk" to "WavesPlatform" as in your shitty site: http://wavesplatform.comWaves doesn't even come close to Lisk
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April 14, 2016, 09:45:23 PM |
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i was wondering why they didnt add ethereum to google trends to show on graph
me being such a fab guy il do it for you
yes guys you were dreaming lisk aint beating ETH
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I've never said Lisk would beat ETH. The reason not to add ETH is simple: Because it's much higher, what I wanted to show is not as visible. And why not add Bitcoin - you'll see that ETH is still a dwarf against it. What I wanted to say, and that's still impressive: There are good reasons to believe that Lisk will start or be soon in the Top10. And for me as somebody who is highly invested in Factom it's surprising to see Lisk that much above when it comes to public attention. Does that mean I would like to swap my FCT's for Lisk? No way! In my eyes Factom is the best project in the market and attention is not everything. That's also true regarding Ethereum. I bought into the Lisk-ICO because of the sidechain-design. I like it simple and smart. I don't believe that over-complex systems has a chance in longterm and that's the reason why I don't buy ETH. I believe to see some signs for huge setbacks out of it's complexity. What I try to say with this: Yes, Ethereum has a lot more attention than Lisk and I don't believe that Lisk will come even near to that in the next 12 months. But if I should make a decision, based on the assumption I would have to buy a project now, but would not be allowed to sell it the next 5 years, my first decision would be Factom. Second Bitcoin. Lisk will show the next time/months what we can expect. ETH will also show and I believe it's highly overvalued and that it will come back.
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MalReynolds
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April 14, 2016, 09:58:15 PM |
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And for me as somebody who is highly invested in Factom it's surprising to see Lisk that much above when it comes to public attention. Does that mean I would like to swap my FCT's for Lisk? No way! In my eyes Factom is the best project in the market and attention is not everything. That's also true regarding Ethereum. I bought into the Lisk-ICO because of the sidechain-design. I like it simple and smart. I don't believe that over-complex systems has a chance in longterm and that's the reason why I don't buy ETH. I believe to see some signs for huge setbacks out of it's complexity.
What I try to say with this: Yes, Ethereum has a lot more attention than Lisk and I don't believe that Lisk will come even near to that in the next 12 months. But if I should make a decision, based on the assumption I would have to buy a project now, but would not be allowed to sell it the next 5 years, my first decision would be Factom. Second Bitcoin. Lisk will show the next time/months what we can expect. ETH will also show and I believe it's highly overvalued and that it will come back.
I appreciate your thoughtful words. I have gone off to learn a very small amount about Factom. I certainly agree that is is an important project - providing a way to store bank and government data in a way that proves there has been no tampering when recalled. Let me ask you these questions. Wouldn't you agree that Lisk can do exactly what Factom is trying to accomplish in a Lisk Dapp using an infinite number of sidechains? What advantage does Factom have over Lisk by staying tied to the Bitcoin blockchain with its slower blocktime and huge, wasteful infrastructure? I am not trying to start a flame war, I am genuinely curious. Factom seems like a great idea - and one they probably would have tied to Lisk instead of Bitcoin if Lisk had been around when they started development work. Would you agree?
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