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[cc001]

A) I'm not that kind of guy who will say "i've done this, i've done that, please give me something". I do if i think i can and i don't wait for anyone 1) to tell me to help 2) to thank me because i helped.

Then I have to assume that you are doing nothing, and don't plan to do anything in the future. Then tell me, why do you expect to get a bigger part of the cake when you actually to nothing to earn that bigger part?

B) Do not truncate what i say. That's insulting but maybe that's the way you thank your voters.

I truncate to make it easier to follow the discussion.

Yes, I'm very thankful for my voters. I thank them by working every day for Lisk, trying to increase its value! And I thank users and projects by donating to them. And I will keep doing this.
That's my last response. I need my time to do useful work for Lisk. To increase it's value. Let me know when you actually have done something valuable for Lisk.

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[kaedcoin]

You guys continue arguing because you don't want to gain less money than you do. That's all.

That's fun the two of you are amongst the less sharing delegates of the top101 list.

And you keep arguing while there are lots of delegates SHARING far more than you AND still CONTRIBUTING to the community and the LISK ecosystem.

You just don't seem to like that we share through donations to projects instead of directly to voters.  We do share a lot more then you are trying to give us credit for.
You also seem to be ignoring the delegates that are contributing less and sharing the same or less then us too.

I'm also still curious what you think of the lightcurve delegate

I don't like the fact you don't share most of your earnings, and that's a lot of money you keep for what ? Yourself, for later ?

I reply to you and talk about you because you share almost nothing to your voters (and not a lot at all even if we look at what you give for projects and stuff) and you try to justify yourself here. I would be pleased to talk with other delegates telling us we're greedy and they're not, and that voting/holding is pretty like doing nothing for the LISK community

You sit on a gold mine and don't want to move. I understand that. But don't pretend what you do is the right thing to do.

A) I'm not that kind of guy who will say "i've done this, i've done that, please give me something". I do if i think i can and i don't wait for anyone 1) to tell me to help 2) to thank me because i helped.

Then I have to assume that you are doing nothing, and don't plan to do anything in the future. Then tell me, why do you expect to get a bigger part of the cake when you actually to nothing to earn that bigger part?

I know my english is not really good, that's not my mother tongue. But you really don't understand what i said, right ? Which part of this quote means that "i do nothing and i plan to do nothing" ? Please, tell me. I'm eager to know !

About truncating what i said, i have to insist, that's insulting and unfair, because you remove the part you don't like while a sentence has to be understood as a whole. But it seems pretty clear for me now that respect and fair are not part of your behavior.

[LiskPro.com]

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...




Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

[LiskPro.com]

I am proud Lisk bagholder xD
I would like to ask you what with LISK rebranding  I heard it was planned for August but as everyone can see there's end of September and still nothing happend...
Etheteum is one step from entering the mainstream and what with Lisk?

Do not expect any "visual" rebranding before the end of october.
Now, their are working on the coding -> design phase is over.
I think it will be sequential. Frist news mid-october, let's hope a full rebranding before the end of the year !

[KenDowson]

Hmm..Sounds good, but design need attention

[CarlosCorreia]

Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

Do we need to register somewhere for thar refund or you will distrubute 1LSK for all voters who vote for the three delegates?

[denixspe]

The lisk hq did a dpos sistem so we investors can expect something in return.So,voting for peapole who actually give somenthing back.

[MrPresident]

Lisk Banner Ad Contest
http://lisk.linkspage.online/index.php/bannercontest/

[timotron]

Pease give me a link to the newest whitepaper

Thank you ^^

[MrPresident]

Pease give me a link to the newest whitepaper

Thank you ^^

There isn't one, nor will there be until the platform product is well underway...if at all.  Maybe in mid 2018 at soonest as a rough guess.
It's been stated that they rather not advertise a product they don't have yet, which gives greater creative leeway until there's something to show...
core 1.0, the rebranding, and SDK development need to happen before the platform and marketplace can transpire... all three of which are happening within q4 evidently. Q1 will be even more glorious... by the time the actual platform gets here, early adopters will be thriving, and everyone will forget about the elusive lisk whitepaper, it will also be self-explanitory when the platform debuts...

[punkrock]

Notable contributions to the LISK network should be rewarded by the LISK team imho. Otherwise only delegates would be interested in doing anything for LISK and we have to think about much bigger audience here.

No, Lisk is a decentralized blockchain. The decentralized community should reward contributing delegates by voting for them. That's the idea behind DPoS. A centralized entity should not be needed to reward these delegates.
I decided to not give 25% to my voters, but to donate those 25% to contributing people and great projects. Every voter who says this is greedy is just greedy himselve. He prefers his own personal profit over the benefit for the whole Lisk ecosystem.
If all those percentages shared to voters would be invested into great Lisk projects and into people organizing meetups, creating tools, fixing bugs instead, we could be already at twice or three times the price we are now. And everybody who owns LSK would profit much more from higher prices than from a few single LSK payed out because of voting. Think in long term, not short term to get big rewards!
So, .cryptic. tell me who is greedy here:
1) the delegates spending 25% to people contributing to Lisk and promising projects,
2) voters who try to get higher rewards by doing absolutely NOTHING for Lisk
?

>> voters who try to get higher rewards by doing absolutely NOTHING for Lisk

You are wrong. LISK holder supports LISK market value by buying and holding LSK. Without them, LSK is a SELL.

>> the delegates spending 25% to people contributing to Lisk and promising projects,

Where is the report? How do you know which projects are promising? Your friend's projects? Or USD 200 freelance projects? Don't tell me that you are writing some line of codes, fixing some typos and ask community for paying you USD 6000 per month forever. It is too greedy.

Please don't act as if you were sole contributor to LISK project. Everyone here is contributing to LISK project in different ways.

I strongly support active contributors to LISK and prefer voting them over profit sharing only delegates. However, let be transparent, fair and accountable. Don't be too greedy and see voters as idiots

Dear voters,
 
Let raise your voice and ask delegates for increasing their profit sharing ratio to at least 50% and consider unvoting the following delegates

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only
+ joel: 15%
+ dakk: 15%
+ 4miners.net: 0%
+ cc001: 0%
+ digitron: 0%
+ hmachado: 0%
+ grumlin: 0%
+ goldeneye: 0%
+ liskgate: 0%
+ punkrock: 0%
+ gr33ndrag0n: 0%

It is a waste of money and time to vote for delegates that share nothing to voters. It is simply too greedy

All of them are from GDTPool

Also, vote for techbytes because he shares 90% reward https://lisk.cryptopools.com


Delegate owners please contact http://earnlisk.com/ owner to update your profit sharing ratio

@digicoin
Your numbers are wrong. Your accusations that we don't contribute are also wrong.
Look at this and then tell me again, I am not contributing.

My proposal: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?t=86
My transparency report: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?t=1292

[qgmurugan007]

The lisk hq did a dpos sistem so we investors can expect something in return.So,voting for peapole who actually give somenthing back.

Fair comment. If the delegates had to keep all the forging rewards, then why do people bother to vote for them ? The community will eventually understand tis and will kick out the greedy delegates in due course. Its only a matter of time.

[SanFrancisco]

Two weeks ago I found this video. It helped me a lot and I already got rewards.
Now I can sit back and get more and more LSK!

If you want to know how to get more LSK from voting check this video out!

How to get free Lisk (LSK) by voting for Lisk delegates

[pinkman12345]

This year has been too good for lisk supporters as the price soared like 20X, initially the price was 0.3$ and now it is like 6.5$. I still see a lot of growth opportunity in lisk in 2018 what you guys say?

[tintumon]

This year has been too good for lisk supporters as the price soared like 20X, initially the price was 0.3$ and now it is like 6.5$. I still see a lot of growth opportunity in lisk in 2018 what you guys say?

The future is looking really bright for LISK. Once the SDK is released and people start developing different projects on the sidechains, without bloating the mainchain, it will definitely soar in its value.

[Beoga]

The lisk hq did a dpos sistem so we investors can expect something in return.So,voting for peapole who actually give somenthing back.

Fair comment. If the delegates had to keep all the forging rewards, then why do people bother to vote for them ? The community will eventually understand tis and will kick out the greedy delegates in due course. Its only a matter of time.

You are right. Greedy delegates have to left from top 101 even they do somethink for Lisk.

First of all voters already participated in Lisk development by buying Lisk on ICO or exchanges. We bring our money from the offline. And Lisk worth because of that too.
Devs got millions from ICO and we can expect the development of Lisk's platform. If someone want to help with development it's their right but not duty. Also if delegate want to sold revards he got it's his right.
Of couse I will support first the delegates who do something for Lisk. But if they so greedy to leave 70% for theirself (as pankrock do) I do not!
They say that it is needed for on cost and voting weight. But if they will distribute even all it's node revards they will not lose their voting weight because their voters will rise it. On my opinion they do that just to became whales and to violate the rights of small voices.
Another thing - why do you think that only you have to decide where and for what send our (node revards is revards of all node voters) money?
OK if you are good coder and facilitate Lisk you worthy of a reward but why do you grab so much?

[MrPresident]

http://lisk.linkspage.online/index.php/bannercontest/

can someone reddit this? thx.

[SanFrancisco]

The lisk hq did a dpos sistem so we investors can expect something in return.So,voting for peapole who actually give somenthing back.

Fair comment. If the delegates had to keep all the forging rewards, then why do people bother to vote for them ? The community will eventually understand tis and will kick out the greedy delegates in due course. Its only a matter of time.

You are right. Greedy delegates have to left from top 101 even they do somethink for Lisk.

First of all voters already participated in Lisk development by buying Lisk on ICO or exchanges. We bring our money from the offline. And Lisk worth because of that too.
Devs got millions from ICO and we can expect the development of Lisk's platform. If someone want to help with development it's their right but not duty. Also if delegate want to sold revards he got it's his right.
Of couse I will support first the delegates who do something for Lisk. But if they so greedy to leave 70% for theirself (as pankrock do) I do not!
They say that it is needed for on cost and voting weight. But if they will distribute even all it's node revards they will not lose their voting weight because their voters will rise it. On my opinion they do that just to became whales and to violate the rights of small voices.
Another thing - why do you think that only you have to decide where and for what send our (node revards is revards of all node voters) money?
OK if you are good coder and facilitate Lisk you worthy of a reward but why do you grab so much?

I think all delegates have invested in Lisk ICO and are investors like you. I am totally fine with the rewards I get from the delegates. I am doing nothing for Lisk and I get free money from the delegates. Who am I to complain about it? Who are you to complain about it? You are greedy too.

[Kushedout]

||||---{ VOTE for kushed.delegate Now with 40% profit sharing:  Currently #67 and forging.}---||||

VOTE for delegate Stoner19 #105 as well and get 5% BONUS payout

PM me if you have any questions or concerns or wish to swap votes..

Thank you,

-Kushed

[WayToGo]

Is there any chance of introducing more delegates, may be 1000, with the new SDK release and rebranding? That could solve all these greed issues since more people can start forging.