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February 04, 2016, 06:30:25 PM
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IP Ban: Someone from that IP was Banned or you are using IP that is Blacklisted by Bitcointalk.org Server.
You Need to pay a dust of bitcoins to get enable to your account , i guess the fine is not more than few days faucet earning.
If your account is at-least Jr.Member i consider , you should Pay the Fine , else just head away and change your IP and make a new Fresh account.

This guy was wrong? I thought using bad IP can affect only Brand New accounts (after registration).

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

I understood the IP's evil points, what about "evil is associated with your account" in the Theymos's post?

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February 04, 2016, 08:40:00 PM
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IP Ban: Someone from that IP was Banned or you are using IP that is Blacklisted by Bitcointalk.org Server.
You Need to pay a dust of bitcoins to get enable to your account , i guess the fine is not more than few days faucet earning.
If your account is at-least Jr.Member i consider , you should Pay the Fine , else just head away and change your IP and make a new Fresh account.

This guy was wrong? I thought using bad IP can affect only Brand New accounts (after registration).

Yes, there is no way to reach Jr. with a proxy banned account.

When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

I understood the IP's evil points, what about "evil is associated with your account" in the Theymos's post?

Read it as "a newly created account will get higher evil points the more evil points have been accumulated on that IP" (what a mouthful)
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February 04, 2016, 11:08:28 PM
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For us it is clear all those evil points cannot harm already created accounts.
This is just if you creating brand new account..
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But you can be permaban if you c+p. Giveaways, begging for btcs will bring you bans.
Also piracy is forbidden especially software,keys..
Not to mention obvious Scams,C.Porn lovers..
So there are lots way to get banned.
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February 08, 2016, 01:57:01 PM
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Good for me! I registred with Tor (because of my ISP) and all was fine.

I think it (evil points) is good protection from scammers, but it is a kind of oposition to Tor.
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February 08, 2016, 05:06:17 PM
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Good for me! I registred with Tor (because of my ISP) and all was fine.

I think it (evil points) is good protection from scammers, but it is a kind of oposition to Tor.

you must have been lucky... Just had an exit node that had no evil points. To bad most of them have evil points, and do require a (sometimes big) fee to be payed.

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February 09, 2016, 06:47:18 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.
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February 09, 2016, 06:49:12 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

No, that's just a restriction for newbies to prevent PM spam/scamming, I think.

That's why points of evil are in place right now. If you're using any service to hide your IP then you'll get points of evil.
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February 09, 2016, 07:17:15 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

you can get a mod to whitelist your account if your posts are good enough. also the time restriction applies to posts and some other actions too.
the last time of posting is taken from your IP but how long you have to wait in seconds is calculated using your account's stats (rank). if I'm not mistaken.

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February 09, 2016, 08:12:49 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

you can get a mod to whitelist your account if your posts are good enough. also the time restriction applies to posts and some other actions too.
the last time of posting is taken from your IP but how long you have to wait in seconds is calculated using your account's stats (rank). if I'm not mistaken.

AFAIK you need someone to vouch for you. I probably got vouch and whitelisting mixed up, see below.
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February 09, 2016, 08:59:39 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

you can get a mod to whitelist your account if your posts are good enough. also the time restriction applies to posts and some other actions too.
the last time of posting is taken from your IP but how long you have to wait in seconds is calculated using your account's stats (rank). if I'm not mistaken.

AFAIK you need someone to vouch for you.
Whitelist? Is there thread about it that explain how to do it. And why I am not in whitelist? I had not to pay fee (0 evil points) at all.
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February 09, 2016, 09:02:22 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

you can get a mod to whitelist your account if your posts are good enough. also the time restriction applies to posts and some other actions too.
the last time of posting is taken from your IP but how long you have to wait in seconds is calculated using your account's stats (rank). if I'm not mistaken.

AFAIK you need someone to vouch for you.

I'm sure you only need the mod to agree to white-list you. maybe it's the one on theymos' post that needs vouch.

If you ask nicely a mod can white-list you which will significantly reduce your waiting time.

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February 09, 2016, 09:03:08 AM
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I found another drawback of using Tor Sad I have to enter capcha each time I send PM and I have to wait 360 seconds to send it (even if I didn't send PM's today at all I all because of someone sent PM using the same Tor exit node). I think It sould be 360 seconds per account not per IP.

you can get a mod to whitelist your account if your posts are good enough. also the time restriction applies to posts and some other actions too.
the last time of posting is taken from your IP but how long you have to wait in seconds is calculated using your account's stats (rank). if I'm not mistaken.

AFAIK you need someone to vouch for you.
Whitelist? Is there thread about it that explain how to do it. And why I am not in whitelist? I had not to pay fee (0 evil points) at all.

You just have the normal newbie restrictions. IIRC whitelisting them away was only thing when the newbie jail was still enforced. Newbies were required to wait 4 hours and post some number of posts in beginners and help before they could post elsewhere. If you wanted to e.g. sell a miner you would ask to be whitelisted to create the post.

A vouch can spare you the evil points fee, but since you didnt pay one I dont think it applies to you.

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AFAIK you need someone to vouch for you.

I'm sure you only need the mod to agree to white-list you. maybe it's the one on theymos' post that needs vouch.

If you ask nicely a mod can white-list you which will significantly reduce your waiting time.

Yeah, I might have mixed up the words.
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February 09, 2016, 11:42:18 AM
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After registration I have got posibillity to post anywhere, not just in beginers and help. My first post are in "Stake your bitcoin addresses here" because I don't want to lose my account Smiley I just have to enter the capthca when I try to write the PM. Maybe it is because of another reasone...

Anyway it is not so important because I can read and write the posts and PMs Smiley
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I am just curious and I have couple questions  ..

does all TOR Exit nodes receive autoban ? What are "THE EVIL" metrics used to be considered harmful ? I am asking because I am personally running an exit node that is used to the main propose of TOR, witch is PRIVACY against metadata harvesting. I guess that is in line with bitcoin purpose too.

So I wonder if bitcointalk have a public list of banned IP witch I would like to compare to TOR exit node list  

https://check.torproject.org/cgi-bin/TorBulkExitList.py?ip=1.1.1.1


    

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does all TOR Exit nodes receive autoban ?
Yes.

What are "THE EVIL" metrics used to be considered harmful ?
Not sure on the specifics, but AFAIK more users who used that IP getting IP banned == more units of evil. The number of units of evil on an IP does decay over time though.

So I wonder if bitcointalk have a public list of banned IP witch I would like to compare to TOR exit node list  
Not that I'm aware of. All TOR exit nodes, VPNs and well-known proxies probably have units of evil either added manually or simply accumulated due to a number of spammers using them.

So I wonder if bitcointalk have a public list of banned IP witch I would like to compare to TOR exit node list  
AFAIK, there is no such list.


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I had to started another account because of IP Ban on my "main" favourite nickname account. I was in cafe browsing reddit and came here, I registered and get banned because of "THE EVIL". I guess my favourite cafe is bastion of crypto users Grin

I know it is Bitcoin forum, but atleast they can accept LTC or another low fee alt for pay... I rather started new account than pay transaction fee
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I had to started another account because of IP Ban on my "main" favourite nickname account. I was in cafe browsing reddit and came here, I registered and get banned because of "THE EVIL". I guess my favourite cafe is bastion of crypto users Grin

I know it is Bitcoin forum, but atleast they can accept LTC or another low fee alt for pay... I rather started new account than pay transaction fee

From one of your other posts:

It happen to me too. I was in coffey and registered account. After login it gave me proxyban too. So I registered with new account at home and it is ok. It is outrages to pay like 451 satoshis.. the fees for transfer are far bigger...

In the last block a tx was confirmed with a fee of 306 satoshi

That's 3 cents. Plus your 451 satoshis, which is around 4 cents it makes up to the incredible amount of 7 cents !!!!!!!

Outrageous.......Somebody please think of the children!!!!!!

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Is anyone of you here already used HTTP proxy injector for windows 10? I'm sorry if I'm a little bit off topic but since the topic is about IP bans I would like to use the opportunity to ask something about this http proxy injector.

Http proxy injector is an executable (.exe) application for windows OS, it is used to access Internet free using a hpi file and I'm planning to use it to my windows 10. I've conducted some research about this already but I can't find the real answer. Some people complaints that their account got banned after using it and some people says it is safe to use and will not ban your Bitcointalk account. I'm really getting confused which one to believe  Huh

I've tested http injector for android phone and I'm not having any trouble browsing Bitcointalk.org. What I worried too much is the application for windows. Is anyone from here already used it to their pc and can prove that it is safe to use? Please let me know Smiley



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May 07, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
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I had to started another account because of IP Ban on my "main" favourite nickname account. I was in cafe browsing reddit and came here, I registered and get banned because of "THE EVIL". I guess my favourite cafe is bastion of crypto users Grin

I know it is Bitcoin forum, but atleast they can accept LTC or another low fee alt for pay... I rather started new account than pay transaction fee

From one of your other posts:

It happen to me too. I was in coffey and registered account. After login it gave me proxyban too. So I registered with new account at home and it is ok. It is outrages to pay like 451 satoshis.. the fees for transfer are far bigger...

In the last block a tx was confirmed with a fee of 306 satoshi

That's 3 cents. Plus your 451 satoshis, which is around 4 cents it makes up to the incredible amount of 7 cents !!!!!!!

Outrageous.......Somebody please think of the children!!!!!!


Oh you do it a lot? Looking to history of people posts? When I faced this problem, the transaction fee for BTC was far bigger than a few satoshi. You should do something different with your life, than only read old posts and than try to offend people. I feel sorry for you. Bye Sad
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May 07, 2018, 11:35:50 AM
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Oh you do it a lot? Looking to history of people posts? When I faced this problem, the transaction fee for BTC was far bigger than a few satoshi. You should do something different with your life, than only read old posts and than try to offend people. I feel sorry for you. Bye Sad

I do that when I run into people trying to spread misinformation.
And, you're still doing it.

On March the 2nd, the exact day of your first post here and the day you claimed tx fees are too high, this transaction, one of the many with 2 cents fee got confirmed. Oh...the horror!!!





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