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February 09, 2016, 04:11:53 PM |
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Police can't be all around like it's wartime or police hour, locals are around and why wait for police when people can tak care of it themselves.
Governments make it illegal for you to defend yourself against people like this so the locals can't take care of it, the only reason the Russians can is because they ignore the laws or they have corrupt cops that will look the other way, but people in Europe are too afraid of breaking the law because you'll get fined or something like the girl who defended herself. yes, that's true. I'm not saying that people should take the law into their hands, just that if something is happening on the streets, like this, they will rush to help out and defend them, not look the other way. I would do that, the problem is not many people would out of fear. |
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Balthazar
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February 09, 2016, 04:30:57 PM |
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yugo231) Russia is no more dictatorship than any other european state. If you are denying this, then try to provide some arguments instead of childish claims. 2) According to UN, more than 650k refugees were accepted since the middle of 2014. I'd say that this figure is quite comparable with situation in the EU. By the way, there are some migration figures.    Or even more funny  More than 5% of free Ukrainian citizens are living in the totalitarian Russia.  Please, try to dedicate some time for education. That would be much more worthy than spending this quite limited resource for making another ridiculous statement.
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jak1
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February 09, 2016, 05:03:46 PM |
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Russian people knows to fight to all barbarians which cross their country..nobody will do anything to this people, if they didn't go to attack woman. What should they do instead? Sitting and watching and let them do what they want.No way.
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yugo23
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February 10, 2016, 09:19:29 AM |
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yugo231) Russia is no more dictatorship than any other european state. If you are denying this, then try to provide some arguments instead of childish claims. 2) According to UN, more than 650k refugees were accepted since the middle of 2014. I'd say that this figure is quite comparable with situation in the EU. You're talking about the immigration of Eastern countries? So about those countries which were already conquered and colonized by Russia? This doesn't prove anything it's a completely natural phenomenon to see a portion of the people from a conquered country to come back after the country is freed. This is the same thing for France, Spain, Portugal or anything like that... Doesn't mean anything. And not a dictatorship? You're talking about the same country than me? Well for sure, European countries are not democracies, but it's not because the rest of Europe is shit that it makes Russia great. And the rest of European countries have at least the decency to hide it between some kind of democracy. Whereas Russia is pure dictatorship. Authoritarian government, no opposition, no freedom of speech... http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-29/2015-the-year-of-the-putin-dictatorshipWell, don't misunderstand me, currently France is heading right at the same spot, and so fast that it might be even more a dictatorship than Russia in a few months meh... |
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bryant.coleman (OP)
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February 10, 2016, 01:33:11 PM |
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And the rest of European countries have at least the decency to hide it between some kind of democracy. Whereas Russia is pure dictatorship. Authoritarian government, no opposition, no freedom of speech...
I think you had too many shrooms. What sort of freedom of speech exists in the European Union? All the social media (FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube.etc) posts are being monitored and censored in Germany. If you post anything even remotely against the immigrants using your social media accounts, you will be in deep legal trouble. All the TV channels and news papers are censored. And you still think that freedom of speech exists in the EU? |
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youdamushi
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February 10, 2016, 03:15:43 PM |
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And the rest of European countries have at least the decency to hide it between some kind of democracy. Whereas Russia is pure dictatorship. Authoritarian government, no opposition, no freedom of speech...
I think you had too many shrooms. What sort of freedom of speech exists in the European Union? All the social media (FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube.etc) posts are being monitored and censored in Germany. If you post anything even remotely against the immigrants using your social media accounts, you will be in deep legal trouble. All the TV channels and news papers are censored. And you still think that freedom of speech exists in the EU? Meh. Not the freedom of speech you have in the USA for sure. But still much more than the one in Russia. I can say more or less whatever I want in Spain. Facebook Twitter and Youtube aren't censored. But that's why he said we were going to reach that point, cause the more time passes, the less freedom we have. But it's still not there! |
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bryant.coleman (OP)
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February 10, 2016, 03:55:16 PM |
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Meh. Not the freedom of speech you have in the USA for sure. But still much more than the one in Russia. That varies from person to person. If you are a homosexual and posts frequently in social media about sodomy and pedophilia, then definitely Russia is not the place you should be in. You would be much better in Spain or the United States. On the other hand, if you want to criticize the national immigration policy, then Russia is safer than any of the EU member nations. |
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youdamushi
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February 10, 2016, 03:58:02 PM |
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Meh. Not the freedom of speech you have in the USA for sure. But still much more than the one in Russia. That varies from person to person. If you are a homosexual and posts frequently in social media about sodomy and pedophilia, then definitely Russia is not the place you should be in. You would be much better in Spain or the United States. On the other hand, if you want to criticize the national immigration policy, then Russia is safer than any of the EU member nations. Really? Nobody has been judged for something like that in Spain or France as far as I know! Maybe I'm not aware of it of course, but maybe you're overexagerating things. |
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February 10, 2016, 04:01:49 PM |
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And the rest of European countries have at least the decency to hide it between some kind of democracy. Whereas Russia is pure dictatorship. Authoritarian government, no opposition, no freedom of speech...
I think you had too many shrooms. What sort of freedom of speech exists in the European Union? All the social media (FaceBook, Twitter, YouTube.etc) posts are being monitored and censored in Germany. If you post anything even remotely against the immigrants using your social media accounts, you will be in deep legal trouble. All the TV channels and news papers are censored. And you still think that freedom of speech exists in the EU? Serial lier at work  |
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February 10, 2016, 04:02:55 PM |
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Ok well, it seems refugees in Russia and refugees in the W. Europe are the same, and problems are the same, but at least outcome in Russia was different because Russians know how to protect their women.
Sometimes, when everything else fail, normal, average, people should fight and protect their way of life, their family, women etc.
I respect Russians for this but can't respect their government because they are responsible for this situation.
Because of their politics in Syria and Iraq, we have so much refugees in Europe now.
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bryant.coleman (OP)
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February 10, 2016, 04:09:24 PM |
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I respect Russians for this but can't respect their government because they are responsible for this situation.
Because of their politics in Syria and Iraq, we have so much refugees in Europe now.
You should blame your own government, rather than pointing the finger at Russia. The crisis in Syria started when the NATO allies in the middle east (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait) funded various extremist Islamist groups to start an uprising against the secular regime of Bashar al Assad. NATO-made weaponry, including TOW anti-tank missiles were provided to the Islamists by the NATO nations. Had NATO stayed out of Syria, then this refugee crisis could have been avoided. |
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youdamushi
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February 10, 2016, 04:15:00 PM |
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I respect Russians for this but can't respect their government because they are responsible for this situation.
Because of their politics in Syria and Iraq, we have so much refugees in Europe now.
You should blame your own government, rather than pointing the finger at Russia. The crisis in Syria started when the NATO allies in the middle east (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Kuwait) funded various extremist Islamist groups to start an uprising against the secular regime of Bashar al Assad. NATO-made weaponry, including TOW anti-tank missiles were provided to the Islamists by the NATO nations. Had NATO stayed out of Syria, then this refugee crisis could have been avoided. Bah, you can accuse Russia. But you should accuse also EU NATO ONU USA... And I think that would be enough ^^ |
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jak1
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February 10, 2016, 09:52:33 PM |
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What is important is to solve this mess and stop this terror. Bravo for Russian people. So in Russia won't be things like in Marbella or Vienna,or Stockholm,Germany..in West Europe people dedicate them to improve quality of their life and now can not understand what this hordes are doing them..
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youdamushi
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February 11, 2016, 08:58:22 AM |
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What is important is to solve this mess and stop this terror. Bravo for Russian people. So in Russia won't be things like in Marbella or Vienna,or Stockholm,Germany..in West Europe people dedicate them to improve quality of their life and now can not understand what this hordes are doing them..
Yeah, brave Russian people ^^ You know it's funny, one year ago Russians were barbarians beating everyone up. And know that they start beating migrants and Muslims they become heros! Ô tempora, Ô mores... |
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