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March 17, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
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@everbody: Whenever you feel sad, just head over to the fountain of wisdom:



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It's always advisable to believe and do exactly the opposite of what AltcoinUK says and does.

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If you put your IOTA address in your signature I will send you some charity tokens after launch.



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March 17, 2016, 01:37:58 PM
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AltcoinUK has a family?  Shocked

EDIT: Ah, I've got it. That tweet was nothing but a trick in one of his scams.
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March 17, 2016, 01:45:16 PM
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It's always advisable to believe and do exactly the opposite of what AltcoinUK says and does.


You need to ask the Vericoin developers what was my reaction when it turned out that Vericoin is not such an honest project what we all thought is, when it became clear that Nosker is a shaddy individual and in bed with the Mintpal/Moloah scammers. My reaction was that I stopped supporting Vericoin, I went to the police and Ryan Kennedy the Moolah scammer was prosecuted.

We need to support honest projects in crypto, because Satoshi's innovation and decentralized technologies can change the world. In the meantime we must act against scams like IOTA/JINN is.
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March 17, 2016, 01:54:43 PM
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You need to ask the Vericoin developers what was my reaction when it turned out that Vericoin is not such an honest project what we all thought is, when it became clear that Nosker is a shaddy individual and in bed with the Mintpal/Mollah scammers. My reaction was that I stopped supporting Vericoin, I went to the police and Ryan Kennedy the Moolah scammer was prosecuted.
Nope, wasn't you.

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We need to support honest projects in crypto, because Satoshi's innovation and decentralized technologies can change the world. In the meantime we must act against scams like IOTA/JINN is.
FTFY
I will remove the crossed out part after you produce any kind of proof.
In the meantime I'll stick to rule number one: "It's always advisable to believe and do exactly the opposite of what AltcoinUK says and does."
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March 17, 2016, 02:08:00 PM
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I also encourage you to head over to Lisk where one of the co-founders is a lawyer

You need to understand that in Germany - the country of that scammer lawyer - every year at least 10 lawyers are prosecuted for financial crimes. Being a lawyer doesn't automatically empowers the individual with moral nor lead them to law-abiding actions. (We had have a look at that LISK lawyer. No time for that right now, one scammer at a time is the effective approach and you are the lucky scammer right right now to be dealt with.)


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March 17, 2016, 02:36:06 PM
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I also encourage you to head over to Lisk where one of the co-founders is a lawyer

You need to understand that in Germany - the country of that scammer lawyer - every year at least 10 lawyers are prosecuted for financial crimes. Being a lawyer doesn't automatically empowers the individual with moral nor lead them to law-abiding actions. (We had have a look at that LISK lawyer. No time for that right now, one scammer at a time is the effective approach and you are the lucky scammer right right now to be dealt with.)




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March 17, 2016, 03:35:18 PM
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There is nothing new: the scammers ask more money from the idiots.


http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174

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After some analysis I have decided to only establish this foundation if we raise close to. 50 million IOTA, which is only ~5% of total iotas. In comparison Ethereum had a ~17% premine. We need such a substantial amount to afford doing all the things we have planned over the coming year (travelling and attending and presenting at the important conferences costs upwards of hundreds of thousands alone).

Every donator will have their honorary mention on IOTA’s official website.



LoL The IOTA scammers collected $500k and now they ask even more to fund "travelling and attending and presenting at the important conferences".

Priceless.

David boy made the analysis and he feels that instead of delivering anything, he need to lure out more money from the idiots.  LoL  What a wanker.
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March 17, 2016, 04:40:24 PM
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You need to understand that in Germany - ...


Perfekt! Genau dich als sabbelnde Mülltonne wollte ich schon immer mal neben meinem Komposthaufen stehen haben - du bist angeheuert, kannst schon mal üben: Mach 'aaaaaaaah'

Und wo du schonmal dabei bist, erzähl mir noch mal was über die Juristen hier in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!
   
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March 17, 2016, 11:01:12 PM
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You need to understand that in Germany - ...


Perfekt! Genau dich als sabbelnde Mülltonne wollte ich schon immer mal neben meinem Komposthaufen stehen haben - du bist angeheuert, kannst schon mal üben: Mach 'aaaaaaaah'

Und wo du schonmal dabei bist, erzähl mir noch mal was über die Juristen hier in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!
   


http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article129330014/Enormes-Qualitaetsgefaelle-bei-deutschen-Rechtsanwaelten.html
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March 18, 2016, 05:01:29 AM
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You need to understand that in Germany - ...


Perfekt! Genau dich als sabbelnde Mülltonne wollte ich schon immer mal neben meinem Komposthaufen stehen haben - du bist angeheuert, kannst schon mal üben: Mach 'aaaaaaaah'

Und wo du schonmal dabei bist, erzähl mir noch mal was über die Juristen hier in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!



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daughter schizophrenic altcoinUK I found your mom's basement! Don't cry  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



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March 18, 2016, 05:15:40 AM
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There is nothing new: the scammers ask more money from the idiots.


http://forum.iotatoken.com/t/iota-foundation-announcement/174

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After some analysis I have decided to only establish this foundation if we raise close to. 50 million IOTA, which is only ~5% of total iotas. In comparison Ethereum had a ~17% premine. We need such a substantial amount to afford doing all the things we have planned over the coming year (travelling and attending and presenting at the important conferences costs upwards of hundreds of thousands alone).

Every donator will have their honorary mention on IOTA’s official website.



LoL The IOTA scammers collected $500k and now they ask even more to fund "travelling and attending and presenting at the important conferences".

Priceless.

David boy made the analysis and he feels that instead of delivering anything, he need to lure out more money from the idiots.  LoL  What a wanker.

Since when is it the software purchaser's responsibility to fund the operating expenses of the company that produced the software?  I'm I missing something here?  Lol


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March 18, 2016, 06:16:17 AM
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You need to understand that in Germany - ...


Perfekt! Genau dich als sabbelnde Mülltonne wollte ich schon immer mal neben meinem Komposthaufen stehen haben - du bist angeheuert, kannst schon mal üben: Mach 'aaaaaaaah'

Und wo du schonmal dabei bist, erzähl mir noch mal was über die Juristen hier in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!
  


http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article129330014/Enormes-Qualitaetsgefaelle-bei-deutschen-Rechtsanwaelten.html

Na da schau an! Bursche, wo hast du denn BILD Zeitung lesen gelernt? Gibt es das bei euch in der Klapsmühle als besonderes Therapieangebot?

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March 18, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
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You need to understand that in Germany - ...


Perfekt! Genau dich als sabbelnde Mülltonne wollte ich schon immer mal neben meinem Komposthaufen stehen haben - du bist angeheuert, kannst schon mal üben: Mach 'aaaaaaaah'

Und wo du schonmal dabei bist, erzähl mir noch mal was über die Juristen hier in der Bundesrepublik Deutschland!
   


http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article129330014/Enormes-Qualitaetsgefaelle-bei-deutschen-Rechtsanwaelten.html

Well, that's what I thought. All rational individuals understand that corrupt and dishonest lawyers operate all over the place.
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March 18, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
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Since when is it the software purchaser's responsibility to fund the operating expenses of the company that produced the software?  I'm I missing something here?  Lol


Indeed that's the question, why they lure money from these poor idiots again? The cheeky bastard scammers take this whole operation to the next level: first they lured out money by promising the nonsense of revolutionary microprocessor and IoT system. Now they say, no-no, we can't deliver it unless you give us more money. Priceless.

On the logistic aspect of the scam, please note how supportive some accounts are with regards to this new money collection in the IOTA thread. They try to convince really-really hard the idiots to give more money to David boy and the Belarusian. Those are the shills, many of them sockpuppets and of course they constantly talk about $100 million marketcap - all these are the usual attributes of a scam operation.
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March 18, 2016, 04:36:42 PM
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first they lured out money by promising the nonsense of revolutionary microprocessor and IoT system. Now they say, no-no, we can't deliver it unless you give us more money.

They said they wont deliver a jinn processor or an IoT system (iota) unless we give them more money?
Source please, or else your statement is a lie.
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March 18, 2016, 04:57:26 PM
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first they lured out money by promising the nonsense of revolutionary microprocessor and IoT system. Now they say, no-no, we can't deliver it unless you give us more money.

They said they wont deliver a jinn processor or an IoT system (iota) unless we give them more money?
Source please, or else your statement is a lie.

Except the pathetic JINN/IOTA shills like yourself, all rational individuals in crypto agreed and understand that the two IOTA scammers and their shill associates like yourself delivered nothing since collected money for JINN as well as will deliver nothing with regards to IoT (for the reasons that have been pointed out in this thread among other places). Asking more money for travel expenses when you already collected $500k is just another fraud.
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March 18, 2016, 05:13:04 PM
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Not all info can be disclosed because of nda.

Warning, severe shill/sockpuppet activity is quoted!

Regardless of what the shills and sockpuppets say, there is of course no NDA nor any deal. No serious business will enter into any deal with piece of shit scammers like jl777 (James), David boy or the Java guy who is hiding in Belarus.
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March 18, 2016, 05:25:37 PM
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delivered nothing since collected money for JINN as well as will deliver nothing with regards to IoT

You are lying again. Users are sending transactions over the iota network as we write.
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March 20, 2016, 05:59:16 PM
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delivered nothing since collected money for JINN as well as will deliver nothing with regards to IoT

You are lying again. Users are sending transactions over the iota network as we write.

Put it on exchange then. What's the hold up now?

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March 20, 2016, 06:01:28 PM
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delivered nothing since collected money for JINN as well as will deliver nothing with regards to IoT

You are lying again. Users are sending transactions over the iota network as we write.

Put it on exchange then. What's the hold up now?

It hasn't launched yet, still in beta. You want to put a beta project on an exchange when there is a high probability of rollback? are you crazy?

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