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January 09, 2013, 06:33:06 AM
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http://libertyandsuch.com/manager-of-fpsrussia-found-murdered/

Keith Ratliff, the manager of FPS Russia, the 3rd most popular youtube channel was found dead yesterday, tied up to a chair and shot in the back of the head.
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January 09, 2013, 06:39:20 AM
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Local news report:

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/story/20538156/fpsrussia

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January 09, 2013, 06:58:52 AM
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Fuck Sad  Is this potential blow back from the gun debate?   This really saddens me, I hope he wasn't into any dirty shit.  Being tied up and shot is one of the worst ways to go.  My heart goes out to his family.

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January 09, 2013, 07:12:39 AM
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Too early to say, but he has a family, wife & kid. This does seem like odd timing. If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

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January 09, 2013, 08:01:13 AM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?

The only question is if it was politically motivated.

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January 09, 2013, 09:06:53 AM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?
It was self-defence! He was reaching for a weapon! While he was tied to the chair... Roll Eyes

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January 09, 2013, 04:53:03 PM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?

The only question is if it was politically motivated.

Yes, that is the most important question outside of who did it.  The timing is really odd.  I never saw any of his videos and watched some last night.  In the wake of all these mass shootings, I could see how his attitude could rub someone wrong.  I am really starting to think that this was a message of some sort.  Gunning someone down is one thing but tying them to a chair and shooting them is a whole other type of act.  You know a conversation took place before they did this heinous act.

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January 09, 2013, 05:52:07 PM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?

The only question is if it was politically motivated.

It seems the sheriff is disputing some of the early reports. He may not have been tied up.
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January 09, 2013, 05:57:58 PM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?

The only question is if it was politically motivated.

It seems the sheriff is disputing some of the early reports. He may not have been tied up.

You mean, that wasn't supposed to get out.

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January 09, 2013, 06:50:00 PM
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If it was murder, the bastards need to rot in hell.

If? Care to explain how (and why) one would shoot ones self in the back of the head?

The only question is if it was politically motivated.

It seems the sheriff is disputing some of the early reports. He may not have been tied up.

I bet they are.  If you take the tied up report away then you can all it just a random act of violence or something not so creepy.   It was a crime scene and that is a basic fact, either he was tied up or not.  People don't usually make mistakes on basic facts like, was the guy tied up or not.

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January 09, 2013, 06:51:49 PM
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.

Don't forget the alleged 2nd shooter found in camo and was quoted saying "I had nothing to do with it".  That has now been dismissed as not material.

Also, initial reports of the mother being a teacher, that was false.

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January 09, 2013, 07:19:50 PM
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.

Don't forget the alleged 2nd shooter found in camo and was quoted saying "I had nothing to do with it".  That has now been dismissed as not material.

Also, initial reports of the mother being a teacher, that was false.

Ministry of truth at work.

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January 09, 2013, 09:23:20 PM
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.

Don't forget the alleged 2nd shooter found in camo and was quoted saying "I had nothing to do with it".  That has now been dismissed as not material.

Also, initial reports of the mother being a teacher, that was false.

Ministry of truth at work.

Nah, just typically crappy journalism.

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January 09, 2013, 09:27:31 PM
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.

Don't forget the alleged 2nd shooter found in camo and was quoted saying "I had nothing to do with it".  That has now been dismissed as not material.

Also, initial reports of the mother being a teacher, that was false.

Ministry of truth at work.

Nah, just typically crappy journalism.

Too easy to pin it to that.  These are basic facts that are hard to get wrong.  A guy in camo seen in handcuffs outside of the school, is not easily mistakable and quite important.   I can see the teacher thing getting that wrong but a guy in camo saying "I had nothing to do with it" and then he is never IDed and quickly dismissed and not important just seems like something that should be thoroughly explained to why he was there and why in camo and why he was so close that he knew a shooting was taking place so that he knew to not implicate himself when he was lead away.

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January 09, 2013, 10:18:34 PM
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There seems to be a rash of mistaken reports lately. Sandy Hook shooter was reported to have used two handguns only. Then they found an M4 in his truck. Then it wasn't in his truck at all, but used exclusively in the shooting.

Don't forget the alleged 2nd shooter found in camo and was quoted saying "I had nothing to do with it".  That has now been dismissed as not material.

Also, initial reports of the mother being a teacher, that was false.

Ministry of truth at work.

Nah, just typically crappy journalism.

Too easy to pin it to that.  These are basic facts that are hard to get wrong. 

The only reason you know anything about the crime is journalistic reporting. Not much time is spent on research, and there's a huge effort to get a story on line before anyone else. It's too easy to interview neighbours and then add an "eye witness" report to the mix. The resulting story may have no factual content at all.

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January 09, 2013, 10:26:39 PM
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Tied to chair and shot? Is this a prank or the killers have twisted sense of humor? Watch him being tied to chair http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjNV2e11Klg&feature=player_embedded

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The only reason you know anything about the crime is journalistic reporting. Not much time is spent on research, and there's a huge effort to get a story on line before anyone else. It's too easy to interview neighbours and then add an "eye witness" report to the mix. The resulting story may have no factual content at all.

That is so implausible, its crazy. A journalist would have to be on crack to report stories like that. Not to mention they wouldn't have a job for very long.
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January 09, 2013, 10:58:32 PM
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The only reason you know anything about the crime is journalistic reporting. Not much time is spent on research, and there's a huge effort to get a story on line before anyone else. It's too easy to interview neighbours and then add an "eye witness" report to the mix. The resulting story may have no factual content at all.

That is so implausible, its crazy. A journalist would have to be on crack to report stories like that. Not to mention they wouldn't have a job for very long.

There are no more journalists any more. Only "reporters," which operate exactly like that, when they're not just hitting "play" on a package that one or another government agency supplied to them.

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The only reason you know anything about the crime is journalistic reporting. Not much time is spent on research, and there's a huge effort to get a story on line before anyone else. It's too easy to interview neighbours and then add an "eye witness" report to the mix. The resulting story may have no factual content at all.

That is so implausible, its crazy. A journalist would have to be on crack to report stories like that. Not to mention they wouldn't have a job for very long.

There are no more journalists any more. Only "reporters," which operate exactly like that, when they're not just hitting "play" on a package that one or another government agency supplied to them.

Absolutely correct. Some reporters may have journalistic integrity, but many of them are bloggers. The rest focus on whatever will bring ratings and let them keep their jobs.

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