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February 10, 2016, 12:39:41 PM
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LOL dentists! Totally sweated out my appointment with one of them.

Enough time to leisure a sweet tooth on tasty nibbles in the meantime.

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February 10, 2016, 12:59:39 PM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Just a bit info about dentists. Belgrade is a bit more south ( around 300 km) and probably have twice chipeaper dentists, maybe even more depends from where. Usually people from EU come here with buses ( if u can believe) and all of them repair their theets here. In Serbia u can pay with euros, dollars..

Nice to know, thanks for info. I'll stick to my dentist in Budapest though, all appointments are already made. Besides Budapest is a cool place. I'm happy to travel there. I know they accept cash, cards, bank wires, Forints and Euros, so I'll just try to extend the payments option list to BTC.

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February 10, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
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Firstly, your dentist should have some time to listen your words (about bitcoin). And you need some some effort to explain him because. Because, AFAIK they're not aware in new technologies other than medical equipments.
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February 10, 2016, 02:18:41 PM
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I suffer total Odontophobia, and my balls shrivel up when I enter his rooms. I have had some pretty bad experiences as a kid and to this day, I panic

when I get close to them. How do you talk to a dentist, with a gaping mouth full of tools? gha ng ga ga..  Grin Grin ... Anyone know what the Budapest

regulations are like towards Bitcoin? In some countries you can own bitcoin, but you not allowed to accept it as a currency.

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February 10, 2016, 03:50:31 PM
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You mean if he accepts bitcoin it would be easier for him to get away with committing tax fraud, and if you were him you would surely accept bitcoin so that you could commit tax fraud?

Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

If he then spends the bitcoin he is absolutely fine, whichever way you want to try and look at it.

If he sells the bitcoins for cash/fiat via electronic transfer, he should really declare this as income which would be taxable once above his countries threshold, which is of course viewable by gov if done with electronic transfer.

As he can pay himself any amount of bitcoin he pleases in salary as it is NOT money,
it will have absolutely nothing to do with his businesses finances, as it is NOT money.

Accepting bitcoin is the same as accepting buttons for payment, and then paying yourself those buttons.

If he sells his BTC for cash there is also no record of any income, although i doubt this income would be taxable, unless a considerable amount.

in comparison, do you declare any income you receive when you sell your old items ?
i very much doubt it.

selling bitcoin for cash is just the same as selling old toys out the attic.
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February 10, 2016, 03:56:44 PM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Well, good luck with this.
I'm not sure about Hungary but I'm from neighboring country, Croatia, and here we don't have much bitcoin users, much less merchants willing to accept bitcoin as payment option and only one Bitcoin ATM i whole country Smiley
The issue of Bitcoin payment is a question of supply and demand.
If enough clients demand that they can use bitcoin for payment, merchants will, soon or later, accept it.
If no so much clients request payment with bitcoin, merchants don't have big reason to risk with something new.


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February 10, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?
i never go to dentist,just suffer dental problem. i think that's good,foreign people will know about bitcoin,and people who know about bitcoin will happy,because general people like dentist accept bitcoin.
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February 10, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
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Firstly, your dentist should have some time to listen your words (about bitcoin). And you need some some effort to explain him because. Because, AFAIK they're not aware in new technologies other than medical equipments.

AFAIK, you'll have your moth stuffed with dentist tools and his hands, so you'll have a hard time explaining him (or her) about it.  Roll Eyes
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February 10, 2016, 05:45:27 PM
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Aceepting Bitcoin is NOT tax fraud as bitcoin is NOT money, the EU courts have already stated this and there is no tax on bitcoin.

When you pay someone in bitcoin for a service priced in Euros, they must declare the Euro-equivalent bitcoin as income on their taxes. Not doing so is tax evasion.

Additionally, if you buy bitcoins for 50 Euro and they go up in value to 60 Euro and you purchase 60 Euro worth of something, you need to pay tax yourself on the 10 Euro difference as a gain.

The only "bitcoin is not taxed" ruling applies applies to exemptions from VAT (tax) in the EU.
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February 10, 2016, 05:51:31 PM
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that is a great idea, and one i have been thinking about recently myself.  in Ireland where i live there are not alot of place that except bitcoin but that is prob because they dont know about it yet.  i was thinking that when i go to local shops i would start asking do they accept bitcoin and if they did support them by spending it there.
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February 10, 2016, 11:28:07 PM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

Well, good luck with this.
I'm not sure about Hungary but I'm from neighboring country, Croatia, and here we don't have much bitcoin users, much less merchants willing to accept bitcoin as payment option and only one Bitcoin ATM i whole country Smiley
The issue of Bitcoin payment is a question of supply and demand.
If enough clients demand that they can use bitcoin for payment, merchants will, soon or later, accept it.
If no so much clients request payment with bitcoin, merchants don't have big reason to risk with something new.


Well, I remember reading about a BTC ATM in Budapest, and that was a very long time ago. So I don't know where the country stands by now, but I know they started early, so there's a chance I could be successful.

Besides, it's worth trying. If we want BTC to be successful, it is our duty to convince other people to use it.

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February 11, 2016, 12:30:28 AM
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OP I think it's a splendid idea, but don't be surprised when you get resistance from your dentist and I would only suggest it after the dental work is done.  Dentists have the potential to inflict so much pain (anyone see Marathon Man?) that it's prudent not to haggle with what may seem like strange payment methods before the pain is inflicted.  Alternatively you can fly to my house and I will do the dental work for you.  I'm not trained in dentistry but I will take your bitcoin and there will be no haggling and I will apply the laughing gas generously.

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February 11, 2016, 12:48:48 AM
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So, any update on this topic ? Are your dentist accepted bitcoin and success  convince your dentist ? I'm curious about that, because i think it's rare to find dentist who accept bitcoin lol.
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February 11, 2016, 01:57:21 AM
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you can change those BTC and not lose much because of fees - no need to necessary pay him with BTC.

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February 11, 2016, 02:26:58 AM
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its easy if the dentist also knew what btc is. its a hell of work convincing someone who knows nothing about btc and he might call a police officer to get you arrested for con attempt while explaining bitcoin to him.  it would be great though if your arrest is going to be on tv news. that will add ppopularity to btc.



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February 11, 2016, 03:29:09 AM
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LOL dentists! Totally sweated out my appointment with one of them.

Enough time to leisure a sweet tooth on tasty nibbles in the meantime.


yeah I am also  try to pay  my dentist with bitcoin. my tooth have also pain now I should go to doctor check my mouth and after try for fees with bitcoin

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February 11, 2016, 05:57:47 AM
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At the end of the month, I'll fly to Budapest for some heavy dental work, and I'm planning to pay with BTC. Has anyone ever paid his/her dentist with BTC? The dentist I'll see mostly has foreign patients traveling to Hungary because it's much cheaper, so BTC would be convenient for many of them. Any argument I could use to convince my dentist?

you are doing what every bitcoin user should do.

but as argument to convince your dentist to accept bitcoin. it is really hard. besides it is mostly depending on the person that you want to convince and also the country they are living in.

for example if someone is living in a country like mine where nobody has heard about bitcoin and changing it to local currency is a hassle, then it is impossible to convince somebody to accept bitcoin. but if the person is interested in tech stuff and sees the benefits of bitcoin then it becomes easier.

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February 12, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
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So, any update on this topic ? Are your dentist accepted bitcoin and success  convince your dentist ? I'm curious about that, because i think it's rare to find dentist who accept bitcoin lol.

Not yet. I'll see my dentist 3 times on the last week of this month, so I'm still looking for arguments. I guess I'll try to split the payment. I'll say what I'll have to pay is above what my credit card can handle in a single transaction. So I'll pay maybe half with the card, than other half with a bank wire, which would take 2 days, or BTC which would take only minutes. But sincerely, I hope he has heard of BTC already. If I have to explain everything about it, that would just take too much time.

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February 12, 2016, 12:45:34 AM
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I'm lucky in that sense. In my country there is one dentist firm that accepts bitcoin.
Every time I need to go to the dentist I pay with Bitcoin.
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February 12, 2016, 02:39:06 AM
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I hope they take it, I always thought it would be cool to pay someone in real life just to see what they say

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