280 BTC total bets between Micon and mrb (are BFL ASICs real?)

[Micon]

Ok, I get Bitcoin address 1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y.

What do I do with the payment invitation I generate?

Send it to Micon with the address and make sure he confirms he gets the same bitcoin address.

If you both agree you're seeing the same address, proceed to fund it.

1)   getting the same address as SgtSpike and about to fire 20 coins at it

2)  the .001 btc test-coin-flip with mrb I keep getting "not a valid payment invitation code" and I did see the space that copy/paste from btctalk makes.

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[casascius]

No, actually, sounds like a major hole. This needs to be addressed somehow (not necessarily for the case at hand, but in general for the system).

Also the idea of relying on MtGox breaking their customer's confidentiality is bad. I know MtGox used to do this in the past, but since MPEx introduced standards for such that sort of shit doesn't seem to fly so well anymore in the public eye either. Frankly, I doubt they'd tell you, and if they did tell you they'd just be stupidly allowing you to rehash the ver-blockchain.info experiment.

You taking "as long as necessary" is yet another hole. The average person using escrow for any purpose is not interested in adding unspecified delays to their process.

MtGox wouldn't be breaking anyone's confidentiality, the person who made the payment would be begging them to confirm the payment was theirs and would be cramming permission down their throats. Not sure how this would be a problem at all.

If there is a fear I will act too slowly... The program is free. Anyone can be an escrow agent.  You can be a superfast escrow agent and even charge a fee for your service.  For everyone else don't forget there's PayPal... They are fast, it's easy to be when you bias toward the buyer!  (Reality check: they are biased and still aren't fast.)

[mrb]

Micon: then create the payment invitation, and send it to me.

[SgtSpike]

And we have a bet!

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

No, actually, sounds like a major hole. This needs to be addressed somehow (not necessarily for the case at hand, but in general for the system).

Also the idea of relying on MtGox breaking their customer's confidentiality is bad. I know MtGox used to do this in the past, but since MPEx introduced standards for such that sort of shit doesn't seem to fly so well anymore in the public eye either. Frankly, I doubt they'd tell you, and if they did tell you they'd just be stupidly allowing you to rehash the ver-blockchain.info experiment.

You taking "as long as necessary" is yet another hole. The average person using escrow for any purpose is not interested in adding unspecified delays to their process.

Doesn't sound like a big deal to me.  I'm not worried about it.

[Micon]

And we have a bet!

https://blockchain.info/address/1B3EAGAgXoALFd6o9762hitoCyH61JxF4Y

No, actually, sounds like a major hole. This needs to be addressed somehow (not necessarily for the case at hand, but in general for the system).

Also the idea of relying on MtGox breaking their customer's confidentiality is bad. I know MtGox used to do this in the past, but since MPEx introduced standards for such that sort of shit doesn't seem to fly so well anymore in the public eye either. Frankly, I doubt they'd tell you, and if they did tell you they'd just be stupidly allowing you to rehash the ver-blockchain.info experiment.

You taking "as long as necessary" is yet another hole. The average person using escrow for any purpose is not interested in adding unspecified delays to their process.

Doesn't sound like a big deal to me.  I'm not worried about it.

indeed!  very cool to be apart of the escrow use win or lose IMO

[Micon]

Micon: then create the payment invitation, and send it to me.

that worked, sent you payment invite + what address it calc'd for me

[mrb]

Ok, Micon, I generated the same address as you for this coin flip. I sent 0.001 BTC to it:
http://blockchain.info/address/1JhXYPL22cZF3q9iXqKRz5iPfFarDH9DNm

Casascius: it would be great if you investigated why Micon encountered the error when he tried to be a payer with my payment invitation code:
einvpQjRf4Gi9yodNgaFfYrvCiBtfSyXyrwvAZXcKR7rWJzZLiyYLse74RjT6DxEcz8g9MporecpRL5 mC74n36QiMvkcZw28Vh9cvgpz1a
which should have produced the address 1JUsk88BGbZbRs3R3JoKxeR4Mc9sxf74kQ
You have all 3 pieces (a, b, payment invitation) to investigate.

[kakobrekla]

So its been like a week and you two are still struggling to place this bitdust bet.

You could have done it on bitbet under 20 seconds.

[mrb]

kakobrekla, the bet has already been placed 2 days ago. We are just running a separate test.

Besides, I had a bet on http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665 but Micon refused to trust it, so I think he would have refused to trust bitbet as well.

[SgtSpike]

Ok, Micon, I generated the same address as you for this coin flip. I sent 0.001 BTC to it:
http://blockchain.info/address/1JhXYPL22cZF3q9iXqKRz5iPfFarDH9DNm

Casascius: it would be great if you investigated why Micon encountered the error when he tried to be a payer with my payment invitation code:
einvpQjRf4Gi9yodNgaFfYrvCiBtfSyXyrwvAZXcKR7rWJzZLiyYLse74RjT6DxEcz8g9MporecpRL5 mC74n36QiMvkcZw28Vh9cvgpz1a
which should have produced the address 1JUsk88BGbZbRs3R3JoKxeR4Mc9sxf74kQ
You have all 3 pieces (a, b, payment invitation) to investigate.

I've highlighted the problem for you..?

[casascius]

Casascius: it would be great if you investigated why Micon encountered the error when he tried to be a payer with my payment invitation code:

Yes, it's because the forum doesn't like a single word to be that long and inserts crap in the middle of it so that it doesn't disrupt the layout of the screen.

Other text editors have similar behavior.

I expect I will do something to at least strip the string of whitespace and non-printing characters, and that will get us by.  Ultimately, single "words" of 80+ characters are going to get pretty raw treatment by most text editing environments, and the real solution for encoding larger objects is to do some sort of multi-line encoding like PGP does.

[mrb]

SgtSpike, casascius: no, this is not it.

According to Micon, he already tried to remove the whitespace, it still didn't work for him.
For me, when I remove the whitespace, it does work, so either it is user error on his side, or a bug (an instance running on Windows cannot accept an invitation code from an instance running on Mono?)

[Micon]

1)  I saw the space, eliminated it each time, still never worked always game same error

2)  but I was able to use that invite code to generate the piece that mrb used and now I too have hit this hash:  1JhXYPL22cZF3q9iXqKRz5iPfFarDH9DNm  with .001


C   --  flip coin / award this one?  see it work for real 1st time so I feel better about the 60 coins hanging in the system ?

[mrb]

Micon, let's assume you win the coin flip - I already PM'd you my escrow code "A" - so go ahead and claim the 0.002 BTC

Also, can you PM me your escrow code "B" so I can attempt to get my 0.001 BTC back for the first test?

[Micon]

Micon, let's assume you win the coin flip - I already PM'd you my escrow code "A" - so go ahead and claim the 0.002 BTC

Also, can you PM me your escrow code "B" so I can attempt to get my 0.001 BTC back for the first test?

yes i'll ship you all that right now.  i think the fee for .001 send was .001 lol

[mrb]

Thanks Micon.

I confirm that with your code B, I was able to collect my fund using casascius' app, and was able to import the private key using the "bitcoind importprivkey" CLI. I moved the 0.001 BTC out of the address to prove it: http://blockchain.info/address/1JUsk88BGbZbRs3R3JoKxeR4Mc9sxf74kQ I now have full confidence in casascius' escrow system

Are you able to do the same and collect the 0.002 BTC of our 2nd test: http://blockchain.info/address/1JhXYPL22cZF3q9iXqKRz5iPfFarDH9DNm ?

[mrb]

Tip for importing: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B
 
So, Micon, are you willing to deposit another 90 BTC each?

[Micon]

Thanks Micon.

I confirm that with your code B, I was able to collect my fund using casascius' app, and was able to import the private key using the "bitcoind importprivkey" CLI. I moved the 0.001 BTC out of the address to prove it: http://blockchain.info/address/1JUsk88BGbZbRs3R3JoKxeR4Mc9sxf74kQ I now have full confidence in casascius' escrow system

Are you able to do the same and collect the 0.002 BTC of our 2nd test: http://blockchain.info/address/1JhXYPL22cZF3q9iXqKRz5iPfFarDH9DNm ?

was able to generate the private key for this.  I'm using the latest satoshi wallet trying to import the private key using this method:  https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/How_to_import_private_keys_v7%2B

pretty sure this is gonna work.  I am not sure how much more I want to fire yet - but we can just keep adding to our "real" bet's address?  i.e. you and I both keep shipping more coins to [[ 1Btxe5E8E4jCWfDhQMr683sVYnLgNLbA9z  ]]  instead of making new escrow invites?

I could do 10 more coins ASAP if you'd like.  Then SgtSpike doesn't have more action than you

[mrb]

Yes, absolutely, from now on we only need to send to http://blockchain.info/address/1Btxe5E8E4jCWfDhQMr683sVYnLgNLbA9z  There is no need for new escrow invites.

I will send 10 BTC in about 3h...

Any reason you can't do more? Please?

[mrb]

Done. I sent 10 BTC (exactly 10.00003615 BTC) to http://blockchain.info/address/1Btxe5E8E4jCWfDhQMr683sVYnLgNLbA9z