[ANN] www.terrawallet.com - CLOSED -

[crazy_rabbit]

Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?

The exact amount was actually 2983. I took a screenshot of it:



After I logged out the page refreshed on it's own and displayed that. When I logged in again it showed the actual amount I have.

Will talk to the dev!
the rabbit

[SalvorHardin]

Whoa that's a weird glitch! Any more detail you could give me?

The exact amount was actually 2983. I took a screenshot of it:



After I logged out the page refreshed on it's own and displayed that. When I logged in again it showed the actual amount I have.

wow, a rich man.   

But note that (2983) is actually in BTC with BTC/USD ($43.79) exchange rate, and not in TRC.

[kooke]

Yeah I guess the site is using a BTC API instead of TRC. Also another suggestion: You should ask to re-enter the password when signing up, since people using a strong password are more likely to make a mistake entering it   

[Walter Rothbard]

Yeah I guess the site is using a BTC API instead of TRC. Also another suggestion: You should ask to re-enter the password when signing up, since people using a strong password are more likely to make a mistake entering it   

I somehow missed noticing that when I signed up.  Yes, entering the password twice ought to be a requirement.

[webosftw]

A terrawallet app would also be cool =]

[romerun]

not https ?

[crazy_rabbit]

not https ?

Oh that's in the works! Step by step!

EDIT: I see the value of TRC rising and RISING. Don't forget the terrwallet is still BETA so don't put ever coin you ever mined on it!!!!

[crazy_rabbit]

The Terrawallet will be down for Upgrades from later today (new Terracoin upgrades). I hope I'll have it back up quickly, but perhaps due to the easter holiday it will take a little longer.

[crazy_rabbit]

Terrawallet is up, but I am reducing the size of the hot wallet even further given the recent meteoric price rise.

That said the disclaimer still applies- be careful with your TRC. Even the best instwallets get hacked (instawallet) and Terrawallet is no different. Only keep the coins on the server that you could afford to lose- be it from theft, negligence or otherwise!

[crazy_rabbit]

We are down again until the new Software gets updated- sorry for the interruptions, I'm just not always available to do the update as quick as I would like.

[crazy_rabbit]

The Terrawallet has been updated after much effort, all the coins are there.

I *highly* recommend that users withdraw any non-trival balances that are left on the server. I am refilling the hotwallet as we speak, so you should have no problems getting your coins.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the releases and there is a very real worry of getting caught on a fork. Everything is fine currently I have had the wallet off so users did not move funds, but it's a real worry.

Hopefully things with TRC get sorted out. Sorry to everyone that it's been such a rough ride.

(That said I am NOT the DEV!)

NOTE: I guess withdrawing your coins has to be your call. I realize the last time people did a bunch of panic withdrawls in the middle of the slowdown they got stuck in the lurch for a long time. I can't make any promises which way it's going to go.

[Walter Rothbard]

Thanks, Rabbit!

[crazy_rabbit]

There are not many coins left on the server- if you are a terrawallet user, please withdraw them.

I am still having some problems- but I'm not entirely sure what. From what I could tell either I was running out of memory, on a fork, or something else. I've reinstalled the terracoind and it seems to be working again, but I'm on a much larger server to see if it's a memory thing and it's expensive to run, so please, take your coins.  :-)

Plan going forward: (don't quote me on this- I could always change my mind)

My plan going forward it to open source the core of Terrawallet. It's based on Open Source code so it's time to go back to the community. A lot of people have asked about this- so I think the time has come. It has been specifically designed to handle multiple currencies easily- so TRC, BTC, LTC, and even multiple LANGUAGES. So if nothing else, I think the alt community will really benefit from it.


EDIT: looks like some bigger problem with terracoin itself (Related: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173283.0 ). The wallet is stuck on block 101632, which is crazy far behind. It is updated to the latest version as well so I don't know. I hope all have withdrawn what they could, there are still a (very) few coins left on the wallet but they might not be salvageable. Although to be fair, one wonders if TRC is salvageable .  

Still looking into it.

EDIT: I'm closing Terrawallet for now. We're on a fork of some sort as far as I can tell. Sorry to anyone who might have some coins left, but it would be very few as almost everything has been withdrawn. If it makes anyone feel better, it looks like Terracoin has some much bigger problems on it's hands at the moment anyway.

[crazy_rabbit]

The Terrawallet is now closed!

In the end it seemed we were indeed on a fork of the terracoin chain after the mandatory updates wasn't applied properly/correctly/intime by myself. Sorry about that.

That said there were hardly any coins left on the server, so hopefully no one feels bad. That said, getting them out now wouldn't make any sense anyway as we're not on the main Terracoin Chain anymore and just restarting with the new software on the old wallet.dat is a problem because I don't know how many coins were sent out while still on the wrong chain- so the balances will be all messed up.

I will soon enough be open sourcing the core of the wallet, and probably putting the site itself up for either a) sale or b)using it as a resource for Terracoin information- depending on how things go.

First I have to talk to the developer about how to properly 'sanitise' the code itself. Remove private info, etc... So stay tuned!

the rabbit

[jubalix]

The Terrawallet has been updated after much effort, all the coins are there.

I *highly* recommend that users withdraw any non-trival balances that are left on the server. I am refilling the hotwallet as we speak, so you should have no problems getting your coins.

I'm having trouble keeping up with the releases and there is a very real worry of getting caught on a fork. Everything is fine currently I have had the wallet off so users did not move funds, but it's a real worry.

Hopefully things with TRC get sorted out. Sorry to everyone that it's been such a rough ride.

(That said I am NOT the DEV!)

NOTE: I guess withdrawing your coins has to be your call. I realize the last time people did a bunch of panic withdrawls in the middle of the slowdown they got stuck in the lurch for a long time. I can't make any promises which way it's going to go.

CR I just saw this thread

I have TRC there and cant get them out? what gives how do I get them?

so I can see that you cleared out transactions to

16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

and it still has a balance of 82 TRC

http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

SO that is definitely available to you as a refund for my outstanding amount

then there is the remaining 408 TRC

Even If I wanted to get the coins, they were in cold storage it seems...(as your safety mechanism)

I mean, I can't even withdraw them if as they seem to be locked up again???


And this does not make sense you just use the private key and you will have access to all the coins on the real blockchain as they were

you go to the debug console in the TRC client and enter it and it rebuild your whole acount .... so all the coins are still there at that point there. It does not matter that you did a whole load of things on a forked block chain

I know your not a technical guy, ask the TRC dev or me...or if you really beleive there is no value, send me the public address of the TRC wallet, I can look at it in the TRC block explorer and see, and get it out with the PRIV key

what you saying makes no sense whats going one here?

[crazy_rabbit]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

[crazy_rabbit]

Is someone honestly trying to DDOS the wallet right now? Seriously? Any coins that are left you can't get out anyway!.

EDIT: have to leave the house for awhile so I won't be able to respond if someone asks something urgent.

[jubalix]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work

wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.

Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys

[crazy_rabbit]

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Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

No THIS is not how block chains or forks of block chains work

wallets do not Fork just for a start IT IS IRRELEVANT WHEN THE FORK TOOK PLACE, Or that a Fork even took place.

Collect all you addresses for cold and hot storage, and list them here, then we can see what balance is there on the real block chain,

DO NOT DELETE ANY PRIVATE KEY OR ADDRESS YOU HAVE

for instance I can see 82 TRC on


http://cryptocoinexplorer.com:3750/address/16DEAoRSC3Dpe4QTrv6PRZyG22ZsGdoFeA

and this was the address you were clearing wallets to as my wallet was completely cleared including to that address, but not by me

You can then get access to them by using the debug console of any TRC client

All that happens to the Forked block chain is eventually those are new coins that people may or may not chose to reconise.


All the original coins on the accepted Block Chain all still exist.

Your description on what happened does not make sense....no one could be withdrawing to a legitimate chain from the forked chain...if you were running that some how Further I read through your links and it appears there was no "fork" or 51% attack

In any even every coin is preserved in the real blockchain!!!

I need mine back, and your holding the private keys

l will sort this out but your missing the point about how shared wallets work. You deposit coins on your address, an the wallet keeps track of your wallet, however when you SEND coins they can come from any address on the wallet- the dont come just from yours. Hence you can't play games like satoshi dice with a special transaction. Because your coins are tracked by a database, NOT by the blockchain. All instawallets and all exchanges, you can not track your balance by the blockchain. Will some else please chime in here to help explain what I mean? Your coins are not keep on a private key. Hence you can't check your deposit address at btce or gox with the blockchain to discover your balance. Try it- you will see I am right.

[Walter Rothbard]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the way I understand it is this:

Wallet is on a fork. The coins that are received on each address are then put into the SHARED wallet of the site. These coins then get mixed with all the other users coins. So when for example coins are sent out from your account, they are not sent from only your address, they are collected from all the addresses on the server. So you  might deposit on your address, but when you withdraw- it comes from any combination of addresses. Hence the idea that in an instawallet you don't own your private key.

With the terrawallet you also have Instacodes- which allows users to transfer their balances from one account to someone else's account. These transactions do not occur on the blockchain, thus if you put 100 TRC on your "address", and then send 100 TRC to another account with an instacode, no coins actually move with the private key of that address. Instead the balance is just moved. Additionally, the cold wallet sends coins automatically off the server to a different wallet entirely, not all the coins but only partially.

I am unable to determine accurately when we started being on the fork, and what transactions took place while being on the fork (indeed perhaps even which fork! As the software was updated multiple times due to errors) including instacodes and thus the remaining balances. If anyone else has problems, contact me and I will see what I can do.

I would suggest that if possible, any blockchain transactions the wallet transacted on one fork should be repeated on any other extant forks.

I don't have any coins in the wallet; just suggesting how to handle the fork.

I concur that the keys and addresses in most wallets don't map to users.  This is how coinbase works, essentially, if you dig closely into where you transactions come from and go to.  This is also how vircurex and most exchanges work.  You may deposit into a particular address, but the addresses as a whole are managed by the wallet institution.  When you send funds, they might send from anywhere (the particular address you deposited to might be cold storage, for example).

It's like depositing dollars on account in a bank.  One inside the walls of the institution, your funds are mixed up with all other funds.  Your ownership is no longer tied to particular dollar serial numbers; instead, your ownership is simply recorded in a database.