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February 10, 2016, 07:11:19 PM
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AFAIK his IRL name is Pankaj Bharadwaj and he was managing/was from the team of, a bitcoin company in India. Here is a news , published today about his arrest: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/Card-frauds-used-bitcoins-to-trade-money/articleshow/50922983.cms
Also an official statement from the company where he used to work: https://coinsecure.tumblr.com/post/139031335450/a-change-in-coinsecure

Got to know this from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720068.msg13840616#msg13840616

Mayne hate it when something like this happens, had been in contact with him in the last month, seemed like a good guy

Edit: Having said that, I believe he should be replaced(or at least removed) from DT 1, or considering his trust list mainly contains the people who are trustworthy at the moment, can his account be locked with an unchanged trust list?

Edit 2: And yes, if someone doesn't know who escrow.ms is, he is a member of DT 1 profile here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=76380
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February 10, 2016, 07:37:15 PM
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It is quite unfortunate that this happened to another default trust member. In these cases it is negative/neutral rating and ask questions later. Let's see how this story unfolds. Depth 1 needs some attention, there is at least 1 inactive member in addition to this fiasco now.


You forgot to add a link to his profile in OP.


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February 10, 2016, 07:39:36 PM
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none of escrow are true here  Huh

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none of escrow are true here  Huh

I don't think he scammed anyone here while he was the escrow. If this is truly the case, then he was a good escrow regardless of this news.


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February 10, 2016, 07:42:59 PM
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Again another ecsrow is scamming people, what is going on??? From now on, I don't believe anymore in a escrow, they seem all to intend to scam Sad

none of escrow are true here  Huh

I don't think he scammed anyone here while he was the escrow. If this is truly the case, then he was a good escrow regardless of this news.
Yes, but card fraud, that goes accros the line. He should get neg repped for this, if you do such things, u dont deserve it.

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February 10, 2016, 07:43:40 PM
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none of escrow are true here  Huh

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Now's not the time to play "He kicked my ass once, I'm gonna take sweet revenge" . Anyway, AFAIK he didn't scam any escrows he held even though he had plenty of opportunities to do so, guess he had some other intentions other than scamming here.

Well if he does get removed from DT 1, another CITM is happening.
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February 10, 2016, 07:43:46 PM
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none of escrow are true here  Huh

I don't think he scammed anyone here while he was the escrow. If this is truly the case, then he was a good escrow regardless of this news.

The news is from reputed channel's website in india and his company removed his position.

lock his account and save other people get scammed (i don't think he will come soon from jail)

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February 10, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
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Again another ecsrow is scamming people, what is going on??? From now on, I don't believe anymore in a escrow, they seem all to intend to scam Sad
He didn't scam here on bitcointalk, rather IRL, quite a difference except for the monetary value pocketed.
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February 10, 2016, 07:46:02 PM
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Yes, but card fraud, that goes accros the line. He should get neg repped for this, if you do such things, u dont deserve it.
Stop spamming because of your signature and read the thread. He didn't scam anyone around here.

lock his account and save other people get scammed (i don't think he will come soon from jail)
His account won't be locked. He will most likely be removed from the default trust list and added negative ratings from several members.

Now's not the time to play "He kicked my ass once, I'm gonna take sweet revenge".
People tend to abuse the situation.


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February 10, 2016, 07:46:55 PM
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none of escrow are true here  Huh

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Now's not the time to play "He kicked my ass once, I'm gonna take sweet revenge" . Anyway, AFAIK he didn't scam any escrows he held even though he had plenty of opportunities to do so, guess he had some other intentions other than scamming here.

Well if he does get removed from DT 1, another CITM is happening.

To me it's sweet news (to be frank) because he pulled me down for nothing wrong from my end. If you need to read the full story with proof, check my signature.

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Holy Shit! I have traded with escrow.ms several times on Localbitcoins.Sold him bitcoins couple of times.This is going to get worst.As International Don Dawood Ibrahim seems involved because the transfer of money according to the news article was done by his boys!

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To me it's sweet news (to be frank) because he pulled me down for nothing wrong from my end. If you need to read the full story with proof, check my signature.

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Nope you are still a scammer.You always were one.I agree Escrow.ms messed up big time but that doesn't over ride the fact his feedback for you was wrong.

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I too heard this news and it was shocking. They seized his 8 lacs which is a huge sum and now they'll recover more 22 lacs. Escrow.ms is in a huge mess and now users should be more careful while trading with strangers in person.


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I don't think he scammed anyone. He was dealing in cash with those guys that is the main problem. He most probably did not knew the source of funds buyer sending him and messed up.


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I don't think he scammed anyone. He was dealing in cash with those guys that is the main problem. He most probably did not knew the source of funds buyer sending him and messed up.
Two words.... card cloning.
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I too heard this news and it was shocking. They seized his 8 lacs which is a huge sum and now they'll recover more 22 lacs. Escrow.ms is in a huge mess and now users should be more careful while trading with strangers in person.

Dealing in hard cash always risky if it's involved hawala money.


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February 10, 2016, 07:57:47 PM
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I too heard this news and it was shocking. They seized his 8 lacs which is a huge sum and now they'll recover more 22 lacs. Escrow.ms is in a huge mess and now users should be more careful while trading with strangers in person.
AFAIK he never made any deals in person.Most of his deals were through this forum and localbitcoins only.Also the issues here is not he scammed anyone (he never cheated any trader though,check his localbitcoins trade history),its the money he payed for bitcoins was occupied by illegal ways IE debit cards cloning.

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February 10, 2016, 07:58:08 PM
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I don't think he scammed anyone. He was dealing in cash with those guys that is the main problem. He most probably did not knew the source of funds buyer sending him and messed up.
Two words.... card cloning.

I know, but he is getting funds through hawala, so there is no way to know what is the source of funds.


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Another big scam reveal after master's issues. The "Master-P" case already shocked me enough, now escrow.ms - one of the legendary and most trusted members on the forum appears to be fraudulent too...
Hope this case gets solved...
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Another big scam reveal after master's issues. The "Master-P" case already shocked me enough, now escrow.ms - one of the legendary and most trusted members on the forum appears to be fraudulent too...
Hope this case gets solved...
According to the news, he confessed guilty, so he's in a lot of crap at the moment.
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I don't think he scammed anyone. He was dealing in cash with those guys that is the main problem. He most probably did not knew the source of funds buyer sending him and messed up.
Two words.... card cloning.

I know, but he is getting funds through hawala, so there is no way to know what is the source of funds.

Dude,do you know how hawala works or what is it ? Its the money transfer system used by Dawood Imbrahim,he gets commission for that.They move cash from point A to point B with all the risks and of course illegal trades.And if you read the article properly,the CLONED debit cards to get funds which was transferred via hawala.

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I don't think he scammed anyone. He was dealing in cash with those guys that is the main problem. He most probably did not knew the source of funds buyer sending him and messed up.
Two words.... card cloning.

I know, but he is getting funds through hawala, so there is no way to know what is the source of funds.

Dude,do you know how hawala works or what is it ? Its the money transfer system used by Dawood Imbrahim,he gets commission for that.They move cash from point A to point B with all the risks and of course illegal trades.And if you read the article properly,the CLONED debit cards to get funds which was transferred via hawala.

lol I know how hawala works, don't try to teach me. I know mostly time it's illegal but sometime it's fastest way to transfer cash from 1 city to another city. In India big business also use to transfer cash through those hawala guys.


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Well who would have though, someone acting nice in an anonymous forum for a decentralized cryptocurrency was a crook in real life. Not this makes me wonder if he also was a crook before discovering bitcoin or if he became one after realizing the potential. Tongue














 

 

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So he took his commission and was helping the card cloner's get the stolen money into coins and spend as they like ? I don't think 120 Bitcoins were worth that much risks loll..

a crook before discovering bitcoin
maybe only crook's get into Bitcoin  Tongue

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^Escrow.ms had made deals in person. I remember him meeting up with users on the forum who were staying in his locality and having cash trades. Dealing with unknown people this way can be risky as they can be either frauds or con men. In this case the user was a fraud which made him land in trouble. I know he dint scam anyone but the cash which he received was by a fraudulent person.


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^Escrow.ms had made deals in person. I remember him meeting up with users on the forum who were staying in his locality and having cash trades. Dealing with unknown people this way can be risky as they can be either frauds or con men. In this case the user was a fraud which made him land in trouble. I know he dint scam anyone but the cash which he received was by a fraudulent person.

Sounds like he knew what was going on and proceeded anyway for a cut. See the quote below. I'm sure there is more to this story though.

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"Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," said DCP (crime) Bhisham Singh. "His associates would clone the cards and withdraw the money and send it to Delhi. Sheikh instructed Bhardwaj to transmit the money to Dubai through the bitcoin route."

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^Escrow.ms had made deals in person. I remember him meeting up with users on the forum who were staying in his locality and having cash trades. Dealing with unknown people this way can be risky as they can be either frauds or con men. In this case the user was a fraud which made him land in trouble. I know he dint scam anyone but the cash which he received was by a fraudulent person.

You seriously need to read more carefully, before you come to someones defense that already confessed.

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Bhardwaj has confessed to having sent Sheikh bitcoins equivalent to more than Rs 30 lakh in the past four-five months. The police also recovered cash totalling Rs 8 lakh from Bhardwaj's house.

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^OK. Just read this statement "Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," said DCP (crime) Bhisham Singh. "His associates would clone the cards and withdraw the money and send it to Delhi. Sheikh instructed Bhardwaj to transmit the money to Dubai through the bitcoin route."

Means he's completely at fault here. I thought he was only dealing in person and was unaware of the debit card scam.


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This is what happens with bitcoin. A bitcoin user, highly trusted can be an illegal carder. Ty anonymity.


Wait... Does that mean bitcoin is illegal in India?





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If all this is true.. belive me, that his Bitcointalk accout, is his smallest problem now.

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If all this is true.. belive me, that his Bitcointalk accout, is his smallest problem now.
True. And though I dont like Pankaj, I really hope he comes out of this. I'm not much aware of Indian laws, but going by the news, it seems like he'll be trialed under terrorist financing laws, which will most likely be demonic.
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This is what happens with bitcoin. A bitcoin user, highly trusted can be an illegal carder. Ty anonymity.


Wait... Does that mean bitcoin is illegal in India?




latley i saw an ad from the "biggest exchange" in india. i tried to get some companys paid via bitpay but they refused it

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Does anyone know how much (in USD and/or BTC) was involved in the alleged thefts? It appears the article in the OP uses some kind of abbreviation that makes it difficult to determine how much was stolen. (yes the article says that he admitted guilt, however news articles in the past have been incorrect).

I for one have excluded him from my trust network and have left him negative trust until at least everything can get sorted out, although if there is truth to the article in the OP both will remain. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea for him to get removed from DT1 for the time being, at least because he will likely not be active to manage his trust list (even if he is not guilty)

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Does anyone know how much (in USD and/or BTC) was involved in the alleged thefts? It appears the article in the OP uses some kind of abbreviation that makes it difficult to determine how much was stolen.

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Bhardwaj has confessed to having sent Sheikh bitcoins equivalent to more than Rs 30 lakh in the past four-five months. The police also recovered cash totalling Rs 8 lakh from Bhardwaj's house.

A lakh is 100,000 Indian rupees, so Rs 8 lakh=800,000 is about $12,000, 30 lakh $45,000.

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...or considering his trust list mainly contains the people who are trustworthy at the moment, can his account be locked with an unchanged trust list?
I expect it can, however do we really want this? While he should be remembered as being a good contributor to the forums in the past, he admitted to fraud. I can't say I'm very fond of the idea of a fraudster being automatically trusted by the system.

What I think would be the best way to go on from here would be for existing DT1 members to look through his trust list and determine which users should still be in DT, then adding them to their own trust lists to keep them there. After this, I think that it would be best if escrow.ms was removed from DT completely along with any other inactive/incapable members of DT1. Having dead weight in the default trust list may seem easier now, however it will not further down the line should anything else happen.

Well if he does get removed from DT 1, another CITM is happening.
What do you mean by this?

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February 11, 2016, 01:21:18 AM
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Well if he does get removed from DT 1, another CITM is happening.
What do you mean by this?

tldr he was selling spaces into DT2 and refused to even consider reforming his ways: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990074.0;all

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Well, wasn't expecting this. Had a few small deals in the past with escrow.ms . Seemed to be a nice guy. Is he currently holding any escrow amounts?
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For reference the following accounts will get removed from DT2 if escrow.ms is removed from DT1 as they are solely trusted by him. I'd adopt some of them but I'm DT2 so won't make much difference.

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tldr he was selling spaces into DT2 and refused to even consider reforming his ways: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990074.0;all
I know what happened with him, however I do not see the relevance between him and removing escrow.ms from DT1.

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tldr he was selling spaces into DT2 and refused to even consider reforming his ways: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990074.0;all
I know what happened with him, however I do not see the relevance between him and removing escrow.ms from DT1.

As he is arrested, it's clear that any further deals from the account will be from a hacker, or maybe the cops for all we know. So any ratings and feedback(as he's in dt1) would effect the users. Theymos should remove him from dt1 and lock his account as the likelihood of him returning to the forum is pretty slim to none.
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I know what happened with him, however I do not see the relevance between him and removing escrow.ms from DT1.
Maybe they meant the removal from DT and the 'drama' that usually comes after. Question like:Who will take their place; "Do we really need a replacement; Why isn't person X more suitable than person Y?", and similar.

As he is arrested, it's clear that any further deals from the account will be from a hacker, or maybe the cops for all we know.
In these cases it is remove first and ask questions later. Only two members have tagged him so far on my list.


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Crazy that so many "reputable" members turn out to be huge scammers. Can't even trust the escrows here.  I keep my trust list pretty trim and had escrow.ms on it.

Card fraud is a big deal too. He could be going away for awhile...
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none of escrow are true here  Huh

I don't think he scammed anyone here while he was the escrow. If this is truly the case, then he was a good escrow regardless of this news.
Yeah, there's no evidence that he did, but Jesus...can anyone be trusted here?  You just never know.  That really sucks.

Wasn't he going to use the proceeds of a sig campaign to reimburse Master-P's victims or something like that?  Seems like he was mixing honesty with extreme dishonesty.  Perplexing.

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This is why I'm such a strong advocate for multisig escrow.  We really need to make it the norm and get tools for it make it easier to use so even the most 'trusted' escrows can't run off with money.  With first master-p and now this it's showing impossible to trust anybody in the bitcoin world as something besides an arbitrator.  Granted that they could still work with one user to scam, but at least that would be a bit harder to pull off.

Wasn't he going to use the proceeds of a sig campaign to reimburse Master-P's victims or something like that?  Seems like he was mixing honesty with extreme dishonesty.  Perplexing.

I think we fell into his trap by thinking that he had good intentions.  By having such a large amount of trust and being one of the 'best' members in the Bitcoin community, he was probably able to make large trades with ease and not have people question him.  We don't know how much he moved online and IRL, but most people probably wouldn't have batted an eye if he popped up with a ton of money to turn into BTC.

Neither providing escrow nor using a sig campaign costed him anything, so he was making free reputation that could be cashed out with his illegitimate funds.  Smart as fuck.

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February 11, 2016, 05:36:01 AM
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Guys stop trolling,I hope you all get DT1 and 5000 trust score but for fuck's sake be a logical grown up person when you post.

The article says he is doing this since 4-5 months and have sent X amount of money to Y persons and if we go back 5 months we see him
  • Doing several trades with grtthegreat and not scamming him.
  • Neg-Tagging a newbie for scam ads ioobileszon
  • Trade with zazarb
  • Neg-Tagging another scammer rickday
  • Neg-Tagging hacked account torepia
  • Neg-Tagging another scammer Morchid

    The above ratings are given only by .MS and none other DT guy so it was his own opinion and was not influenced.Of,course he could have pulled much coins but he didn't.

    IMO he might have thought that the card fraud's are going to do this either with him or without him and no-one can get the victim's money back to their original cards or banks and in that case if he uses his trading back-up and knowledge to increase the stash in his wallet then it might be crime of course but i don't think it would make him a bad or dishonest or a scammer either.

    Considering the above trades on forum while he was doing the cloning thing it seems like he wouldn't have scammed people directly or hurt them or run away with their money when he is trusted and which is a sign of good/reliable character and also taking a cut from the criminals doesn't makes him a dishonest person.

    What i think is that the fraud's knew that they are not in INDIA and the police cannot get to them by any means and they pulled .MS into this most risky position(trader) while cashing their bitcoins coins internationally.More or less I think he was SET UP.

    cashed out with his illegitimate funds.
    There are Bank Officials involved in this and also international criminals ,it was not his own money....lolll

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There are Bank Officials involved in this and also international criminals ,it was not his own money....lolll
It's irreverent if he was the highest-up in the operation, he was getting a cut and in exchange he helped to move the money.  There's no denying that his insane reputation on here must have made his trades much easier to make. 

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This is what happens with bitcoin. A bitcoin user, highly trusted can be an illegal carder. Ty anonymity.


Wait... Does that mean bitcoin is illegal in India?




There are few things to it........ the same way it happened with Ross Ulbricht, he confessed under duress, in India there is no 5th amendment or in short no protection against self incrimination. If we all take everything that has been reported as true, then why are we ignoring the trivias. For instance The Joint Commissioner of Police (source http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tech/tech-news/Card-fraud-Cybercriminals-using-bitcoins-to-trade-money/articleshow/50927536.cms?)categorically says that Bitcoin as a form of payment is illegal in India as decreed by Reserve bank of India - which is utter rubbish. Police arrested Pankaj as they do not have any other scape goat. He is arrested because he has dealt in bitcoins and failed to ascertain the motive of the people involved in the trade. The same way Charlie Shrem got indicted - allegedly supplying bitcoin to drug dealers. They arrested him because he failed to ascertain the motive of the people who bought bitcoins. So, the case is, if I sell knives and some one buys one to commit murder, then I am a party to the crime - is this fair.

The point which everyone alludes to is - Police in India has deemed Bitcoin buying and selling illegal (in cash or through bank channels) sooner or later you will find users getting rounded up for using bitcoins. Pankaj received money and sent Bitcoins in return that is his only crime. His honesty in deals and on localbitcoins is above reproach. He is not a guy to get involved in card fraud. He was used and dumped.

It is easy to label someone as a scammer, there are many who have dealt with pankaj on this forum as well as on localbitcoins. He dealt with someone in cash and that someone turned out to be a carder. He is not a carder neither a scammer. Wait for the outcome of the trial - if he is allowed one.
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Well this mean that I can't easily believe escrow even they have enermous trust value from now.
So sad this can happen and Fell glad that he did not scam anyone here on this forum ....

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I don't think it matters if he was stealing from members of the forum or scamming "the big bad banks" of India (BTW it is possible that he had stolen from people on here and they didn't know about it). Stealing is still stealing, period. 

According to the story he was laundering the money over several months. He also likely used his strong reputation to make trades that allowed him to carry out his scheme. If he were to scam one of his trading partners then he would no longer be able to carry out his scheme.

I believe there was also an allegation that he left trust for someone that was attempting to influence the outcome of a LBC dispute. I don't know if this allegation has any merit though.

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Just yank him from default trust and move a long. He is obviously guilty so not much else needs said or done in my opinion.

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I would agree to remove him from DT and all that because it's just officials now and there is nothing that can prove .MS is back,not even signed message lol.But calling him a scammer and blaming his reputation is just childish.He is on forum since years and why didn't he scammed anyone ? or he had a vision when he joined BCT that he is going to get an offer like this in future and he was then building trust for that.Master-P was a coward/loser and a dishonest person cause he actually ran away with the money and tried to justify it saying hack stories.

So, the case is, if I sell knives and some one buys one to commit murder, then I am a party to the crime - is this fair.
This is not the case,.MS was not selling anything of his own but he was taking the money from fraud cloners and sending/transferring coins internationally,probably for his cut.

There is also a possibility of him being forced to do this etc...

There's no denying that his insane reputation on here must have made his trades much easier to make. 
Yes but he didn't made the fake reputation in order to card fraud in future.So stop Demeaning.

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February 11, 2016, 08:12:50 AM
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There is also a possibility of him being forced to do this etc...
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Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," said DCP (crime) Bhisham Singh. "His associates would clone the cards and withdraw the money and send it to Delhi. Sheikh instructed Bhardwaj to transmit the money to Dubai through the bitcoin route
Seems he pretty much knew what he was doing, the consequences of his actions and the risk he was taking.

I know what happened with him, however I do not see the relevance between him and removing escrow.ms from DT1.
Maybe they meant the removal from DT and the 'drama' that usually comes after. Question like:Who will take their place; "Do we really need a replacement; Why isn't person X more suitable than person Y?", and similar.
Yup thats what I meant.
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February 11, 2016, 08:19:45 AM
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This is not the case,.MS was not selling anything of his own but he was taking the money from fraud cloners and sending/transferring coins internationally,probably for his cut.

There is also a possibility of him being forced to do this etc...


Forced to do so? How? They blackmailed him? I don't know why are you defending him so much. He himself confessed his crime and he did it for 4-5 months which means he was aware of his wrong doings.

Do you mean to say money laundering doesn't make a person dishonest? Can't believe people support him after doing something that's against the law. About honestly, yes he honestly did transfer money via bitcoins to Dubai for the amount he was paid. He was involved in cloning debit cards which is a serious offense (no matter how honest he was on this forum but he was arrested for transferring fraudulent money to Dubai) which was obviously for terrorist or other illegal activities.  TOI wouldn't be so wrong about his confession. No matter what position you hold on an ONLINE FORUM, it doesn't give you the right to launder money. PERIOD.


Edit: To answer the below quote:

"Bhardwaj revealed to us that Sheikh would procure data related to debit/credit cards through his sources," --- This means he knew where the cash is coming from and was the receiver of the funds means he was involved in the complete scam but played a small part. "Bhardwaj was identified as the receiver. "

After whatever happened, I don't want him to own a position in DT1 again. This wasn't a mistake that he did but it was a crime irrespective of his earlier reputation here which he earned, he lost everything by sending funds to criminals.





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February 11, 2016, 08:31:04 AM
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Do you mean to say money laundering doesn't make a person dishonest? Can't believe people support him after doing something that's against the law.
No one's supporting him dude,they're just trying to figure out what could have possibly went wrong for him to take this step.

He was involved in cloning debit cards which is a serious offense (no matter how honest he was on this forum but he was arrested for transferring fraudulent money to Dubai) which was obviously for terrorist or other illegal activities. 
Did you read the article ? Read it again.
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Sumair Sheikh, who is believed to be based in Dubai. Since the accused had access to crucial information related to the ATM cards, the cops also suspect a bank official's role in the racket.

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The arrest of Nasir Ansari while withdrawing money from a Dadar ATM led to Mumbai Police recovering more than 20 cloned ATM cards. During interrogation, Ansari disclosed that he sent the illegally withdrawn cash to Sheikh in Delhi through a hawala operator.

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Bhardwaj was identified as the receiver.

TOI wouldn't be so wrong about his confession. No matter what position you hold on an ONLINE FORUM, it doesn't give you the right to launder money. PERIOD.
Maybe he loved doing it ? Its his life choices and he totally served his position in the forum a trusted and reputed escrow and a trader (in online community).Though he was doing his off shore scam business he never ripped a penny with his escrow services or trades on localbitcoins.What he did off this forum was totally his choices ,as far as rep on this forum is considered I'd say he deserved it.

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you have to blame the man, merely some sort of basis of Article?!
only the court will determine whether he is guilty or not.
or at least, is the official confirmation of the arrest the same person?

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you have to blame the man, merely some sort of basis of Article?!
only the court will determine whether he is guilty or not.
or at least, is the official confirmation of the arrest the same person?

The article would have to be wrong for him to not be blamed it states "Bhardwaj has confessed to having sent Sheikh bitcoins equivalent to more than Rs 30 lakh in the past four-five months. The police also recovered cash totalling Rs 8 lakh from Bhardwaj's house.""

If he confessed he is not innocent.   So article would have to have a massive mistake for him to be innocent.   You don't confess normally if innocent.
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...and also taking a cut from the criminals doesn't makes him a dishonest person.
Really? So if I ran a service working with someone like master-P, I would not be dishonest if I were to take a cut of any coins he scammed in exchange for changing them to another currency? Do you seriously believe this?

What he did off this forum was totally his choices ,as far as rep on this forum is considered I'd say he deserved it.
So because he had lots of points on a forum he deserves the $40k that he stole? Am I misunderstanding?

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Seems he pretty much knew what he was doing, the consequences of his actions and the risk he was taking.
That's probably it.However,there is still no first hand information but only a bunch of articles.

I don't know why are you defending him so much.
alt accounts ?

He himself confessed his crime and he did it for 4-5 months which means he was aware of his wrong doings.
Yes he did but i just pointed out a possibility.

Do you mean to say money laundering doesn't make a person dishonest? Can't believe people support him after doing something that's against the law.
Get rid of the mom's basement.

Really? So if I ran a service working with someone like master-P, I would not be dishonest if I were to take a cut of any coins he scammed in exchange for changing them to another currency?
Am I misunderstanding?
Of course you are,read again and if you couldn't come up pointing out the difference then i will make it more clear for you.

Do you seriously believe this?
No.

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February 11, 2016, 12:18:40 PM
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Well this mean that I can't easily believe escrow even they have enermous trust value from now.
So sad this can happen and Fell glad that he did not scam anyone here on this forum ....

I don't think escrow has been trustworthy pretty much since John K left. Also feels like buyers have lost interest in requiring escrow as its the lesser of two evils to trust a seller.

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Omg! This is unbelievable!
I knew Pankaj after I got to know about bitcoins on June 2015. This is because I had several small trades with him via Localbitcoins when I first wanted to buy some btc and know about its mechanisms.

I had contact with him on Whatsapp and there he explained me everything starting from how a transaction works and all other technical details.
He seemed to be a humble guy to me. One day he mentioned about this forum and asked me to join here so that I can get to know the community better.

From that time onward I used to trade with him on Localbitcoins and he had 2 profiles there:
1. https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/escrowmsa
2. https://localbitcoins.com/accounts/profile/bitcoinsbazaar

Just now I noticed this article before I tried to pm him asking for reasons of his absence on LBC.

And this crime is absolutely unforgivable (specially in India) if he had knowingly done this. Undecided

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Bharadwaj used to convert the money he received from Ansari into bitcoins and then transfer them to Sheikh in Dubai. Sheikh then encashed the virtual money there.
http://www.business-standard.com/article/pti-stories/card-cloning-racket-using-bitcoins-busted-1-held-116020901233_1.html

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Well, this is sad to say the least, good thing he didn't harm anyone on the forum, which he could have if he wanted to, considering the amount of trust level he had.

What I want to know is, would this have any affect on Bitcoin in India or other bitcoin traders who had deals with him or BTC traders in general?

 

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What I want to know is, would this have any affect on Bitcoin in India or other bitcoin traders who had deals with him or BTC traders in general?

In India at present, RBI did not impose any regulations governing virtual currencies.
RBI on 2013 probably, issued a press release on virtual currencies like bitcoins, litecoins, dogecoins etc. stating that creation, trade and usage of virtual currencies as a medium for payment is not authorized by any central bank or monetary authority. 

But after this situation I think they will become strict to their neutral terms! They cannot declare it as illegal since bitcoin enthusiasts in India are growing rapidly nowadays but they might be on the strict side in terms of law from now on.

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What I want to know is, would this have any affect on Bitcoin in India
YES.

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The police claim that the Reserve Bank of India has decreed illegal all trade and use of virtual currencies as a medium for payment.

other bitcoin traders who had deals with him or BTC traders in general?
NO.They were criminals and police wont involve other innocents who are just trying to earn some money.Though anything significant might be traced.

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... but Jesus...can anyone be trusted here?  ...
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Looks like that escrow.ms has been removed from DT and therefore the users under his trust were also removed. However almost all of them are very trusted in my opinion and should still stay in DT. Some rough examples:
icey, bithalo, hedgy73, SebastianJu, snarlpill...

Full list:
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       allinvain
        smooth
        SebastianJu
        Rassah
        Otoh
        Eisenhower34
        etotheipi
        icey
        shawshankinmate37927
        steelboy
        Chainsaw
        BladeRunner
        Dragooon
        Evilish
        Badman0316
        cyclops
        BitcoinAccepted
        bobtaj
        hedgy73
        instacash
        KCmining
        emkay47
        bithalo
        crowetic
        hodlmybtc
        snarlpill
        BenAnh
        Ejarwan

Because of his removal, most trust score ratings (including mine) have dropped drastically.
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I'm just wondering that
1) Who moved the thread back to Reputation again, as the edit and the thread purpose was to discuss DT removal of escrow.ms and his potential replacement.
2) If this is going to create another CITM like scenario, where people start complaining about their reduced trust rating

Lastly, theymos was a discreet in removing him, didn't even notice it until now.
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LOL Many people have lost trust color..

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Great, i heard rumours about escrow.ms being arrested but i didn't check it out since i did not even remember that escrow.ms was it that put me on default trust. I checked my pm's and yes it was in march the 12th 2014.  Undecided

So now i lose default trust. It probably doesn't affect me but those i gave trust to. I think...

I can't believe what happened. Being on here so long and for a stupid couple of months he did that? And when he only pushed around $60k then what was his share? That was so very unneeded, in fact i thought first he only was scammed by carders, like it might happen easily. But then he admits? How is the police in india? I wonder if confessions are always true or maybe sometimes coming from violence. Don't take it against me when india police is better, i simply don't know.

And he funneled the bitcoins to some anonymous sheikh? Well, if this incident at all isn't bad enough for bitcoin, when they find out that this sheikh in fact collected money for the IS then bitcoin will take a real hit for sure.

Not to speak about the second big escrow being caught redhanded. But now even even was on default trust level 1. Great. The trust in escrows might go down even more. And alot of big escrows stopped escrowing in the last time after master-P happened. Devthedev(devscrow), Blazed and bitpop left and Tomatocage might close his too probably.

Great... being an escrow and having such users having the same title feels actually not really great. :/
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Looks like that escrow.ms has been removed from DT and therefore the users under his trust were also removed. However almost all of them are very trusted in my opinion and should still stay in DT. Some rough examples:
icey, bithalo, hedgy73, SebastianJu, snarlpill...

Full list:
Code:
        allinvain
        smooth
        SebastianJu
        Rassah
        Otoh
        Eisenhower34
        etotheipi
        icey
        shawshankinmate37927
        steelboy
        Chainsaw
        BladeRunner
        Dragooon
        Evilish
        Badman0316
        cyclops
        BitcoinAccepted
        bobtaj
        hedgy73
        instacash
        KCmining
        emkay47
        bithalo
        crowetic
        hodlmybtc
        snarlpill
        BenAnh
        Ejarwan

Because of his removal, most trust score ratings (including mine) have dropped drastically.

Who should add these users in their default list to be re-listed again like it was before. Maybe theymos should add at least the sebastian escrow in his default trust?

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February 12, 2016, 09:58:44 PM
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Who should add these users in their default list to be re-listed again like it was before. Maybe theymos should add at least the sebastian escrow in his default trust?
Why should theymos trust someone's opinions just because he was on a scammer's trust list?
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I see escrow.ms is still on Default Trust level 2 because he is trusted by Tomatocage and BadBear.
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I see escrow.ms is still on Default Trust level 2 because he is trusted by Tomatocage and BadBear.
Bizarre.
Both are very inactive, not that bizzare when the person hasn't even known about the incident.
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LOL Many people have lost trust color..

lol...I just lost like 50 points of green. I think no one is above 300 now!

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LOL Many people have lost trust color..

lol...I just lost like 50 points of green. I think no one is above 300 now!
Yeah, here's to hopin there will be a new DT 1 member who is active and has a well maintained trust list.
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LOL Many people have lost trust color..

lol...I just lost like 50 points of green. I think no one is above 300 now!
Yeah, here's to hopin there will be a new DT 1 member who is active and has a well maintained trust list.

There have been several polls done over the years for that purpose. I am not sure if we need someone added or not honestly.

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February 12, 2016, 10:35:36 PM
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There have been several polls done over the years for that purpose. I am not sure if we need someone added or not honestly.

Considering there are less than 25 active DT members at the moment, it probably is a good idea. Even the usual scam busters like Vod, Ecuamobi and cryptodevil are less active
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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...

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February 12, 2016, 11:39:01 PM
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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink
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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
I hear that QS has been a pretty good Scam Buster in the past Smiley

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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
I hear that QS has been a pretty good Scam Buster in the past Smiley
And when has self-reffering ever worked?
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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
congratulation,  and compassion Smiley, will flow soon request for inclusion in your list.

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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
I hear that QS has been a pretty good Scam Buster in the past Smiley
And when has self-reffering ever worked?

Quickseller is -1 in DT depth 2 right now. Does that mean that if he's added in one DT member's trust list it won't mean anything?














 

 

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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
I hear that QS has been a pretty good Scam Buster in the past Smiley
And when has self-reffering ever worked?

Quickseller is -1 in DT depth 2 right now. Does that mean that if he's added in one DT member's trust list it won't mean anything?
If a user in DT 1 adds him under his trust list, QS will be back on DT 2. The DT "score" will be 0, which is enough for being on the DT. Have a look at Vod, he's excluded by Hostfat while being under only dooglus' list.
But if he gets added on DT 2 member's trust list, he won't be on DT 3.
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It is a good thing they removed all the honest traders from the default trust so they can populate it with frauds, stalkers, and con artists like Escrow.ms (who was responsible for adding Master-P too BTW). Is no one else seeing a pattern here?

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Just out of curiosity how do you find out what DT level  yourself or another member is on, is there a complete list available somewhere?
Can anyone tell me on what level i am on?

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It is a good thing they removed all the honest traders from the default trust so they can populate it with frauds, stalkers, and con artists like Escrow.ms (who was responsible for adding Master-P too BTW). Is no one else seeing a pattern here?

You feel that I am not one of the more honest people here?

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I remember that he got in some shit with PrimeDice a couple years ago - acting very immature and unprofessional (not 100% sure so don't quote me).  I guess people just forgot about it, but it comes to show that some people never truly change :-/

Blazed:  Congratz on getting on DT1.  Glad to see it, and even more so when you say that your list will be well managed. Smiley

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I remember that he got in some shit with PrimeDice a couple years ago - acting very immature and unprofessional (not 100% sure so don't quote me).  I guess people just forgot about it, but it comes to show that some people never truly change :-/

Blazed:  Congratz on getting on DT1.  Glad to see it, and even more so when you say that your list will be well managed. Smiley

Thanks...

You are on my list so you are finally part of the DT network.

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Just out of curiosity how do you find out what DT level  yourself or another member is on, is there a complete list available somewhere?
Can anyone tell me on what level i am on?
https://bitcointalk.org/trust.txt.xz
or in trust setting- Hierarchical view

currently you in DT level 4 under me

@monbux finally, congratz Smiley

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Congrats Blazed on making dt1, well deserved
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I remember that he got in some shit with PrimeDice a couple years ago - acting very immature and unprofessional (not 100% sure so don't quote me).  I guess people just forgot about it, but it comes to show that some people never truly change :-/

Blazed:  Congratz on getting on DT1.  Glad to see it, and even more so when you say that your list will be well managed. Smiley

Thanks...

You are on my list so you are finally part of the DT network.

That's exactly what I thought too when I saw you made DT1 and you had monbux on your list.

Well done Blazed, absolutely deserved mate.
But also well done on including monbux in your trust list. He should have been there a long time ago. Am sure he, like you, are in most peoples top 5-10 trusted people on this forum.

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Alright, so I was added to DT1 and am willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked). Feel free to make suggestions of people I should add (obviously I need reasons).

Edit: I will be very active with my list...
Congratulations Blazed!
you may also consider re-adding people whose ratings you trust who are only once on DT or ~removing those you don't trust
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(who was responsible for adding Master-P too BTW).
No,people were scammed by him and any other non-DT escrow can do that.Monbux was holding ten's of coins while not being a part of the network.

Is no one else seeing a pattern here?
Yes,but .MS definitely never took part in any of the swindle's.I wouldn't believe that and also he never scammed anyone on forum while doing the carding thing for more than half a year by which i assume he might have had pretty deep thinking between honesty and business.

willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked).
What does truly deserve means ?

(obviously I need reasons).
If the reason must be that they should give you trust then add me ,I will do that...lol because that is what every person in your network is doing Wink

However, if it is just personal benefits and Anschauung over Logic then I think I should just hold my suggestions.

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(who was responsible for adding Master-P too BTW).
No,people were scammed by him and any other non-DT escrow can do that.Monbux was holding ten's of coins while not being a part of the network.

Is no one else seeing a pattern here?
Yes,but .MS definitely never took part in any of the swindle's.I wouldn't believe that and also he never scammed anyone on forum while doing the carding thing for more than half a year by which i assume he might have had pretty deep thinking between honesty and business.

willing to add a few users if they truly deserve it (people I have overlooked).
What does truly deserve means ?

(obviously I need reasons).
If the reason must be that they should give you trust then add me ,I will do that...lol because that is what every person in your network is doing Wink

However, if it is just personal benefits and Anschauung over Logic then I think I should just hold my suggestions.


Deserve means they have proven themselves here and are responsible with holding coins or actively contribute here in ither ways.

Why would I need more positive feedback from anyone? Not really sure how I am supposed to take that comment honestly. The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.

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escrow.ms was actually someone that many people here trust. It is still somewhat a bad thing that he is arrested.

And congrats to Blazed for getting into the Default Trust.

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Now escrow.ms is still under Tomatocage and BadBear trust list, we should ask if they can remove him from their list.
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Now escrow.ms is still under Tomatocage and BadBear trust list, we should ask if they can remove him from their list.
Both are inactive, and I doubt Tomatocage will return anytime soon.

Seems my recommendations were flooded over by other comments, not sure if a seperate thread is needed for the purpose though:
Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

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Now escrow.ms is still under Tomatocage and BadBear trust list, we should ask if they can remove him from their list.
Both are inactive, and I doubt Tomatocage will return anytime soon.

Seems my recommendations were flooded over by other comments, not sure if a seperate thread is needed for the purpose though:

Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink


I know they are inactive, I meant that 2-3 Default trust users (depth 1) should remove escrow.ms (~). Regarding your other post, yes... devthedev and Cyrus seems very trusted.
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Deserve means they have proven themselves here and are responsible with holding coins
That is not deserving Smiley

actively contribute here in ither ways.
Yes.CONTRIBUTION is the criteria for someone to be in the deserving category not personal trades or big score.

Why would I need more positive feedback from anyone?
why would you add all of them who can increase your rating then ? none of the users in your list is someone who haven't left you a rating & many of them don't even post a couple times a week but you still think they should be on DT.

ssateneth & BigBitz have stopped posting since months,dazedfool nothing other than coin trades.

The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.
what relation does DT has over person's trust or character ? I am not trusting(if i were to) you because you are level 1 or level 500 but because of the past experience.If a user never did a runner with 200 btc in hand then it pretty much defines his personality.

I would also trust TECSHARE with some typical escrow deal but he is not on DT.
SebastianJu,Shorena,ecuamobi,Vod,M.zakir have never done any coin trades but that doesn't changes the fact that they are pretty active scam busting artists and have saved hundreds of people from scams.It helps the community significantly and also elucidates the meaning of DT.

You are leaving a +rating for the smooth trade & which in turn shows their reputation but that doesn't means they should be on DT ? or if that is how you think then i can start taking interest in coins from now and do a couple of coin trades and also throw some huge tips on you to get a position in your network like the other senior guy i mentioned above , isn't it abusable or at least a questionable idea/judgment ?

Rassah holds 750 btc here 1HQ8WaKVRYXLBtVdMcYr5SHQ3X9BsLyxa1 but theymos didn't added him to DT ? he might still be a reputed one though.

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Now escrow.ms is still under Tomatocage and BadBear trust list, we should ask if they can remove him from their list.
Both are inactive, and I doubt Tomatocage will return anytime soon.

Seems my recommendations were flooded over by other comments, not sure if a seperate thread is needed for the purpose though:

Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink


I know they are inactive, I meant that 2-3 Default trust users (depth 1) should remove escrow.ms (~). Regarding your other post, yes... devthedev and Cyrus seems very trusted.
It'd possibly going to take at least 3 DT 1 members to do that, 2 to cancel out the 2 "score" from TC and BB, and another to exclude him from DT.

@Heu can you and Blazed take it to the PMs or another thread? Currently this thread is here for recommending people "eligible" for DT 2
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Currently this thread is here for recommending people "eligible" for DT 2
OK, then I recommend mexxer-2 for DT-2  Tongue Tongue & also edit the subject maybe ?

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I do not think this is the right way to elevate trust point just by adding another member to DT1.
It would have been better if theymos removed escrow.ms only and added the names under his trust list back to the previous DT manually wihout adding Blazed.

I am not showing any disrespect towards Blazed but I feel that he should remain in the position as was before.

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It would have been better if theymos removed escrow.ms only and added the names under his trust list back to the previous DT manually wihout adding Blazed.

I am not showing any disrespect towards Blazed but I feel that he should remain in the position as was before.
That is not a good idea, why should theymos add certain people who he has never traded with or trusts, to his trust list? At any rate most of those individuals were mostly added because they did a few early trades with escrow.ms , he once even added a person who he had done a small ~$20 trade with.

A third person however, that too , one who (I estimate) has done the most trades, and has the highest(had before escrow.ms was taken down from DT, Ognasty holds the 2nd position because his trust list includes people who he has traded with, and has gotten feedbacks from), would be suitable for a replacement to add new individuals to the DT while considering if some of the old DT members, do deserve it.

Edit: Once again, recommendations:
Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink
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I think mexxer-2 would be a suitable fit for a DT.There are a number of reasons I could list out but to mention a few he's available most of the time and quite responsive with messages and everything.He knows stuff about the forum and is good at pointing out likely scams.
Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink

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That is not a good idea, why should theymos add certain people who he has never traded with or trusts, to his trust list? At any rate most of those individuals were mostly added because they did a few early trades with escrow.ms , he once even added a person who he had done a small ~$20 trade with.

Then its better not to add anyone at all an leave it as it is. Wink
I think there will be no physical harm to have lower trust points.

Although an exceptional situation happened, the ones under his trust list should try and win their places back from scratch.

Also I think its better to add Cyrus and John K. on DT1 (not devthedev, since I am speculative about him)

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Then its better not to add anyone at all an leave it as it is. Wink
If people said the same when Shorena, Ecuamobi, Vod and others were going to be added, how would they know how helpful they would be in the future. Change of this type is not counter-intuitive I believe.
Also I think its better to add Cyrus and John K. on DT1 (not devthedev, since I am speculative about him)
Not talking about DT 1 here, I'm recommending members for Blazed's trust list as he asked for before.

Edit: Can we take the discussion of whether Blazed should or should not be added to another thread or PMs if you want to have a conversation with me, getting quite tired of bringing this post back from the dead
Cool, well my suggestions:
1) Cyrus: Active moderator, long time member, quite active in(Edit: Detecting, lol) suspicious activity
2) devthedev: Was a DT 2 member before CITM took the hit, long time escrow, member and trustworthy person.

The other guys on escrow.ms list... don't think they actually deserved it, seems most of them got the position because of a few early escrow/deals.

Edit: And congrats on getting back your 300+ rating  Wink
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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

what relation does DT has over person's trust or character ? I am not trusting(if i were to) you because you are level 1 or level 500 but because of the past experience.If a user never did a runner with 200 btc in hand then it pretty much defines his personality.

It's a common misconception that one's trust list is a list of people who you extra-special-trust. Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so -- it's not necessary to actually trust them all that much otherwise. And likewise, if someone is very trustworthy but never leaves trust ratings, then it's somewhat pointless to add them to your trust list.

A lot of people are using the term "DT" in a confusing way... I wrote a vocabulary post about this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891261.0

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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.
So is Blazed only a temporary replacement?
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So is Blazed only a temporary replacement?

No. There isn't a fixed number of seats in the default trust list or anything.

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I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense.
This is what i was shouting but it looks like many legendary and highly trusted users have childish mentalities and get to conclusion just by reading a bunch of articles.

Really it's a list of people who you believe have given accurate ratings and will continue to do so
Tell me who in Blazed list is going to do that ? he himself said this
The people in my network I have trusted with coins and had no issues.

And likewise, if someone is very trustworthy but never leaves trust ratings, then it's somewhat pointless to add them to your trust list.
yes that is what i said in the previews post.CONTRIBUTION.
many of them don't even post a couple times a week but you still think they should be on DT.

ssateneth & BigBitz have stopped posting since months,dazedfool nothing other than coin trades.

You and many others are using "DT" in a confusing way...
why me after reading it all ?

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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

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I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

The news is obviously genuine because escrow.ms was the only trader at Localbitcoins who was available online 24/7 and since the day he got arrested he hasn't been online and his account is flagged red by localbitcoins as well. 

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February 13, 2016, 10:01:28 AM

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.
I think what theymos is saying is, the article doesn't specify whether escrow.ms willing did this or was forced into doing it. Maybe he was forced to confess, who knows.
As for coinsecure they removed him, because they didn't want any of the dirt splattered onto themselves, be it a mistaken one.

Also, he didn't scam anyone on here.
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February 13, 2016, 10:03:13 AM

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

lol, it's normal procedure for every company if someone got arrested first they try to clear their name.

If he come back  non guilty for this they will add him back and if not so they will say we already removed him.


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February 13, 2016, 10:11:38 AM

I haven't even read the article, but since he never scammed here, I'm inclined to give escrow.ms the benefit of the doubt and assume (until I get more info) that he is the victim of some government nonsense. But I guess he will at least be inactive for a while, so I removed him.

I would like you to read this article at least since I believe you trust Benson Samuel and he is the CEO of Coinsecure, not a government concerned company either.

As far as I know the news is quite genuine.

lol, it's normal procedure for every company if someone got arrested first they try to clear their name.

If he come back  non guilty for this they will add him back and if not so they will say we already removed him.
You all have forgotten
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February 13, 2016, 10:12:32 AM

One of the DT member should add all the negatives given by him to others or else many scammers might be neutral again if .MS is removed.

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February 13, 2016, 10:14:57 AM

One of the DT member should add all the negatives given by him to others or else many scammers might be neutral again if .MS is removed.
He is still on DT 2 and many of his ratings are vague as to why someone was given a neg and doesn't generally include a reference