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February 17, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
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You should just have a licensed electrician install a PDU (Power Rail) for your units, those have built in surge protection and will be rated for that load.  You will sleep better.

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February 17, 2016, 04:25:36 PM
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That's false. In house test by me and others found no other surge protector was able to take a 200,000 volt hit and protect the gear on the other end other than a surgeX and Furman ice.

Amazing since nothing created a 200,000 volt surges. Since he cannot possibly measure such voltages.  And since Surgex only claims 6000 volt protection.  Every answer needs numbers.  Then fiction and outright lies are quickly exposed.  In this case, he even ignored Surgex and Furman specification numbers.  He demonstrates why so many recommend near zero protectors from Surgex and Furman.

We know other plug-in (appliance adjacent) protectors are also ineffective. A protector adjacent to any appliance must either 'block' or 'absorb' a surge.  Anyone can also read those spec numbers.  How does its 2 cm part 'block' a surge that three miles of sky cannot?  How do hundreds of joules inside a protector absorb surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules?  More damning numbers.

Surgex, et al can sell magic elixirs because so many just *know* rather then learn.  Meanwhile a solution proven by over 100 years of science and experience harmlessly connects surges earth. Costs about $1 per protected appliance. Then hundreds of thousands of joules dissipate harmlessly outside.  Using a concept that Ben Franklin validated in 1752.  Franklin also did not use magic boxes.  Franklin used the only item always implemented when surges do not damage - earth ground.

Only the most easily deceived would believe a magic box from Surgex or Furman provides useful surge protection.  Even manufacturer's specification numbers say otherwise.
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February 17, 2016, 09:22:44 PM
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That's false. In house test by me and others found no other surge protector was able to take a 200,000 volt hit and protect the gear on the other end other than a surgeX and Furman ice.

Amazing since nothing created a 200,000 volt surges. Since he cannot possibly measure such voltages.  And since Surgex only claims 6000 volt protection.  Every answer needs numbers.  Then fiction and outright lies are quickly exposed.  In this case, he even ignored Surgex and Furman specification numbers.  He demonstrates why so many recommend near zero protectors from Surgex and Furman.

We know other plug-in (appliance adjacent) protectors are also ineffective. A protector adjacent to any appliance must either 'block' or 'absorb' a surge.  Anyone can also read those spec numbers.  How does its 2 cm part 'block' a surge that three miles of sky cannot?  How do hundreds of joules inside a protector absorb surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules?  More damning numbers.

Surgex, et al can sell magic elixirs because so many just *know* rather then learn.  Meanwhile a solution proven by over 100 years of science and experience harmlessly connects surges earth. Costs about $1 per protected appliance. Then hundreds of thousands of joules dissipate harmlessly outside.  Using a concept that Ben Franklin validated in 1752.  Franklin also did not use magic boxes.  Franklin used the only item always implemented when surges do not damage - earth ground.

Only the most easily deceived would believe a magic box from Surgex or Furman provides useful surge protection.  Even manufacturer's specification numbers say otherwise.


Direct overhead power lines supplied the 200,000 plus volts. Like I said these tests were done for the power company which meant they supplied the main. Also there are many tools that measure voltage in excess of 200,000 volts. Yes all of this gear used ground rods and all gear was bonded to ground. Obviously the voltage spike was drain to ground but the fact that the two prices survived and the devices on the other end only saw 138v from the hit. Take as you want but these are facts
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February 18, 2016, 08:27:17 AM
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That's false. In house test by me and others found no other surge protector was able to take a 200,000 volt hit and protect the gear on the other end other than a surgeX and Furman ice.

Amazing since nothing created a 200,000 volt surges. Since he cannot possibly measure such voltages.  And since Surgex only claims 6000 volt protection.  Every answer needs numbers.  Then fiction and outright lies are quickly exposed.  In this case, he even ignored Surgex and Furman specification numbers.  He demonstrates why so many recommend near zero protectors from Surgex and Furman.

We know other plug-in (appliance adjacent) protectors are also ineffective. A protector adjacent to any appliance must either 'block' or 'absorb' a surge.  Anyone can also read those spec numbers.  How does its 2 cm part 'block' a surge that three miles of sky cannot?  How do hundreds of joules inside a protector absorb surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules?  More damning numbers.

Surgex, et al can sell magic elixirs because so many just *know* rather then learn.  Meanwhile a solution proven by over 100 years of science and experience harmlessly connects surges earth. Costs about $1 per protected appliance. Then hundreds of thousands of joules dissipate harmlessly outside.  Using a concept that Ben Franklin validated in 1752.  Franklin also did not use magic boxes.  Franklin used the only item always implemented when surges do not damage - earth ground.

Only the most easily deceived would believe a magic box from Surgex or Furman provides useful surge protection.  Even manufacturer's specification numbers say otherwise.


Direct overhead power lines supplied the 200,000 plus volts. Like I said these tests were done for the power company which meant they supplied the main. Also there are many tools that measure voltage in excess of 200,000 volts. Yes all of this gear used ground rods and all gear was bonded to ground. Obviously the voltage spike was drain to ground but the fact that the two prices survived and the devices on the other end only saw 138v from the hit. Take as you want but these are facts

Overhead transmission lines are either 12,500 volts or 25,000 volts.   I think you may have an extra zero in there.

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February 18, 2016, 12:59:11 PM
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That's false. In house test by me and others found no other surge protector was able to take a 200,000 volt hit and protect the gear on the other end other than a surgeX and Furman ice.

Amazing since nothing created a 200,000 volt surges. Since he cannot possibly measure such voltages.  And since Surgex only claims 6000 volt protection.  Every answer needs numbers.  Then fiction and outright lies are quickly exposed.  In this case, he even ignored Surgex and Furman specification numbers.  He demonstrates why so many recommend near zero protectors from Surgex and Furman.

We know other plug-in (appliance adjacent) protectors are also ineffective. A protector adjacent to any appliance must either 'block' or 'absorb' a surge.  Anyone can also read those spec numbers.  How does its 2 cm part 'block' a surge that three miles of sky cannot?  How do hundreds of joules inside a protector absorb surges that are hundreds of thousands of joules?  More damning numbers.

Surgex, et al can sell magic elixirs because so many just *know* rather then learn.  Meanwhile a solution proven by over 100 years of science and experience harmlessly connects surges earth. Costs about $1 per protected appliance. Then hundreds of thousands of joules dissipate harmlessly outside.  Using a concept that Ben Franklin validated in 1752.  Franklin also did not use magic boxes.  Franklin used the only item always implemented when surges do not damage - earth ground.

Only the most easily deceived would believe a magic box from Surgex or Furman provides useful surge protection.  Even manufacturer's specification numbers say otherwise.


Direct overhead power lines supplied the 200,000 plus volts. Like I said these tests were done for the power company which meant they supplied the main. Also there are many tools that measure voltage in excess of 200,000 volts. Yes all of this gear used ground rods and all gear was bonded to ground. Obviously the voltage spike was drain to ground but the fact that the two prices survived and the devices on the other end only saw 138v from the hit. Take as you want but these are facts

Overhead transmission lines are either 12,500 volts or 25,000 volts.   I think you may have an extra zero in there.

incorrect.

Overhead power transmission lines are classified in the electrical power industry by the range of voltages:

Low voltage (LV) – less than 1000 volts, used for connection between a residential or small commercial customer and the utility.
Medium voltage (MV; distribution) – between 1000 volts (1 kV) and to 69 kV, used for distribution in urban and rural areas.
High voltage (HV; subtransmission less than 100 kV; subtransmission or transmission at voltage such as 115 kV and 138 kV), used for sub-transmission and transmission of bulk quantities of electric power and connection to very large consumers.
Extra high voltage (EHV; transmission) – over 230 kV, up to about 800 kV, used for long distance, very high power transmission.
Ultra high voltage (UHV) – higher than 800 kV.
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