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February 10, 2016, 11:08:09 PM
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Hello lads,

I was wondering what is the most important counterpart in exchange for Ethereum. To be clear, concerning all the biggest market where ethereum is traded, I was asking myself in the total volume of these, how much does represent BTC/ETH, USD/ETH and EUR/ETH.

Indeed, if the biggest part of the global volume is BTC/ETH, it means that if BTC was meant to go up (which I trully believe), it would potentially reduce the value of the ETH.

I was also wondering when and at which frequency are ETH created by Ethereum, since it could also have consequences on the price.
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February 12, 2016, 03:06:44 PM
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up Huh Huh Huh Huh
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February 12, 2016, 03:17:30 PM
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5 Ethereum is created every 15 seconds, that is 28,800 per day. At the price of $6, it needs $1.5 million fresh money to support the price.

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February 12, 2016, 03:17:48 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered
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February 12, 2016, 03:27:42 PM
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BTC/ETH is by far the biggest volume pair
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February 12, 2016, 03:47:08 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered

I think this was changed, it's now limited to ~100M ETH + small inflation, which will be about the same as the ETH lost.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1345668.msg13750830#msg13750830
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February 12, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered

I think this was changed, it's now limited to ~100M ETH + small inflation, which will be about the same as the ETH lost.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1345668.msg13750830#msg13750830

If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).
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February 12, 2016, 07:42:36 PM
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BTC/ETH is by far the biggest volume pair
Many times i saw this! And many of those coins are not listed or very low on Bittrex.
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February 13, 2016, 12:06:37 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

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February 13, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

I will continue to hold my Ethereum, I personnaly think the value can increase because this issue can easely be solved. I am also happy that bitcoin is going up  Grin
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February 13, 2016, 03:44:10 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.


this is something that I was expecting. although a small version of it.

I was expecting that after a while that ethereum rise slowed down and stopped all those investors who had put their money in ETH are cashing out after the rise and putting their money back into bitcoin so that would cause a price rise for bitcoin.

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February 15, 2016, 02:53:08 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

I will continue to hold my Ethereum, I personnaly think the value can increase because this issue can easely be solved. I am also happy that bitcoin is going up  Grin

I will keep on buying to achieve 1500 Ethereum coins so that I can earn interest from staking. But I think 1500 is too high value.

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February 15, 2016, 03:52:36 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

I will continue to hold my Ethereum, I personnaly think the value can increase because this issue can easely be solved. I am also happy that bitcoin is going up  Grin

I will keep on buying to achieve 1500 Ethereum coins so that I can earn interest from staking. But I think 1500 is too high value.

Right now to reach 1500 eth seems hard, at least for me. From where did you get that information?
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February 16, 2016, 06:29:30 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

I will continue to hold my Ethereum, I personnaly think the value can increase because this issue can easely be solved. I am also happy that bitcoin is going up  Grin

I will keep on buying to achieve 1500 Ethereum coins so that I can earn interest from staking. But I think 1500 is too high value.

Right now to reach 1500 eth seems hard, at least for me. From where did you get that information?

I do not know how authentic it is !

https://www.reddit.com/r/ETHSTAKERS/comments/3w3kye/minimum_bond_size/

"Interestingly I stumbled upon this : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xf_iHGI51Lp6nVHPZo0SdUw60-NA6YJUvk2s-eYaxLE/mobilebasic#
minDeposit - the minimum deposit required to become a proof of stake validator. Set to 1500.
maxDeposit - the maximum deposit allowed to become a proof of stake validator. If you want to deposit more, you must purchase multiple slots. Set to 50000.
scoringRewardDivisor - an inverse multiplier that affects the size of the rewards/penalties of users from the scoring rule. Set to 4294967296.
withdrawalDuration - the time needed to get your money out after withdrawing. Set to 10 000 000 seconds (~4 months).
maxIncentivizationDepth - the maximum depth to which the incentivization mechanism works. Set to 1000 blocks.
This might obviously change (this is for Casper 0.1), but this should give you an idea!"


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February 16, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered

Can you elaborate?  This is fascinating.  What do you think a fair market price would be?

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February 18, 2016, 12:00:37 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered

Can you elaborate?  This is fascinating.  What do you think a fair market price would be?

The Ethereum number will increase about 20 million each year. The initial inflation is high, but in 100 years, the inflation is just 1% per year. In 1000 year, the inflation is just 0.1%

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February 18, 2016, 03:59:28 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered
Are you suggesting newbies should switch to Monero instead?
I mean now when SDC is slaughtered also?
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February 18, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
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Ethereum has no hard limit, so the marketcap is waaaaaayy tooooooooo overpriced. Will be funny when noobs get slaughtered

Can you elaborate?  This is fascinating.  What do you think a fair market price would be?

The Ethereum number will increase about 20 million each year. The initial inflation is high, but in 100 years, the inflation is just 1% per year. In 1000 year, the inflation is just 0.1%

Dude are you serious?Huh?  In 100 years?  
  
By then we all may mobile consciousnesses in an AI nano swarm or some shit.  You are trying to set up a cryptocurrency for 100 years from now!??  

That's like trying to design a crossbow in 1500 that will be upgradable and relevant until the year 2000.

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February 18, 2016, 05:35:33 PM
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If this is true, this is a good new. The issue of the total volume of ETH traded against Bitcoin could lower ETH value if BTC goes up in the short term. Nonetheless, I think this issue will quickly be solved when more and more exchange will accept Fiat in counterparty of ETH (as already do Kraken).

The price of Bitcoin rose 5% today, the Ethereum price dropped against Bitcoin for about 15%. The volume also reduced.

I will continue to hold my Ethereum, I personnaly think the value can increase because this issue can easely be solved. I am also happy that bitcoin is going up  Grin

I will keep on buying to achieve 1500 Ethereum coins so that I can earn interest from staking. But I think 1500 is too high value.

Right now to reach 1500 eth seems hard, at least for me. From where did you get that information?

Ether is still PoW, has not changed to PoS yet. From reddit:

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In about a year, when the next version of Ethereum is released, the network will switch from a Proof of Work system to a Proof of Stake system, called CASPER.
In CASPER, there will no longer be any miners. Rather, any entity (an individual or a group (such as a pool)) willing to put up at least 1500 ETH may become a validator. Validators are randomly selected to produce new blocks, and the other validators bet using their deposits on whether that block will be the final block. For this, validators receive both transaction fees and, possibly, a small subsidy of new ETH.

In the current, PoW, system, you can believe a block won't be reverted if more miners do calculations on that block's chain than any other. In the future CASPER system, you can believe a block won't be reverted if enough of the validators would lose their deposits if they turned out to bet wrongly.

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