[IOTA] IOTA Speculation

[yassin54]

Sold 1.6 million without escrow for 45 Bitcoin, PM me if you are interesting.

I like to live dangerously too.

I am a hero member and will honor my promise.

Buyer cant know if your account has been bought or hacked by a scammer, so everyone should always trade with caution and take as many security measures as possible. So please everyone, ALWAYS ESCROW

Yes, but currently there is no escrow, it seems it's impossible, this is why I say no escrow, but if you want to use escrow, it's okay to me

The closest to a 100% escrow right now is Yassin. I am selling NXT assets that are being held by yassin til launch. I do not receive the NXT til launch, you do not receive IOTA til launch. I can sing my ownership with the BTC key that owns the IOTA. That's about as safe as it gets.

I confirm, I control the account NXT!! 

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[marechoux]

Haha yep sell em while you can at 25x price before they hit exchanges and are selling for 5x IPO price...  It's almost cruel! Good job guys, well done.

Let's analyze the price of IOTA:

AA/ 25 X IPO price is not something crazy in crypto world, ethereum currently X 70 / NXT was X 1000 / Bitcoin itself got value X 10.000 and more since 1st trades thought there was no IPO as everybody knows.

BB/ even at 25C IPO price market cap is around 12-13 millions $ which is not THAT huge and crazy for crypto, thought it become important.

CC/ IOTA could solve scalability problem / quantum resistant issue (if you follow science news, you can see that issue is growing day after day), it is 1st mover into IOT payment as crypto and can work with other blockchain like ethereum (not competitor but more as partner), this is why I invested a little bit in IOTA as it seemed something really needed in crypto world.

DD/Why did I invest only a little bit as it is sooo good? Because I was a bit affraid of the possibility to really do this coin as it is promised, however now IOTA is on AZURE so a partnership with microsoft means according to me that the technology behind IOTA is working, THIS CHANGE TOTALLY the value of the coin. If I knew that I would have invested much more like most of the people I guess.

EE/Most of the investors of IOTA are on this thread and can already sell their IOTA via escrow and / or NXT AE, some decided to sell and the price where it becomes difficult to match buyer and seller seems to be around 25X IPO price, under this price at around 10-15X IPO you will find a buyer instantly, there was even a buy of 10 millions IOTA for 250 BTC.We are not talking on a GATECOIN exchange where only a tiny share of coins (ethereum) was available so price could jump,( finally the price now of ether is 5X more that it was on gatecoin before ether launch) but most of the investors could sell now their IOTA for a 10X profit for sure.

FF/Now we have 3 types of IOTA holder :

-1/ IPO investors who want to sell at around 25X IPO price, trades are not that easy at this price, but some happen (theses one will probably sell their IOTA on exchange at around 10-30 X IPO price If someone make the calculation of the number of IOTA involved in this situation we would have a clear picture but I guess it is less than 5% of total IOTA )

-2/IPO investors who don't even want to sell at 25X IPO price (most of the coins), theses ones will probably wait for higher prices to sell their IOTA 50 X IPO price  and higher.

-3/2nd hand investors who bought at 10-30X IPO price (theses ones will obviously not sell at same price.

==> if there is a lot of demand at exchange as  the supply will be low  the price could skyroket again.

To sum up my thoughts if you already have IOTA just keep them but don't buy more, however if you don't have any IOTA regarding the last news you should invest 2-5% of you crypto savings in IOTA now and the same amount at the exchange when available if the price drops, for me that would be a wise decision.
It is always dificult to buy 20X more expensive but you could miss the train and you will regret it for years whereas loosing 3% of your crypto savings will not change a lot of things....Look at ethereum if you bought it at 3$...

1 rule in crypto always have a share even a little share in any interesting project, a lot will fail but those who win will get 100-10.000X ROI

[entertainment]

Let's be clear. IOTA is just vaporware, and this is just speculation. Some of you will earn, others will lost.

The current marketcap is crazy for a project that did not prove nothing. Just words, hype and promises from the development team.

IOTA is more a marketing product, than a real alternative to any serious crypto project like BTC, ETH, or MAID.

Be aware before investing at these crazy prices.

And no, IOTA is not going to be valued like Ethereum, neither gonna produce a 1000 ROI like NXT.

[iotatoken]

Let's be clear. IOTA is just vaporware, and this is just speculation. Some of you will earn, others will lost.

The current marketcap is crazy for a project that did not prove nothing. Just words, hype and promises from the development team.

IOTA is more a marketing product, than a real alternative to any serious crypto project like BTC, ETH, or MAID.

Be aware before investing at these crazy prices.

And no, IOTA is not going to be valued like Ethereum, neither gonna produce a 1000 ROI like NXT.

I make no comments about the rampant speculation here.

However you are clearly being dishonest here, probably in an attempt to bring down the price to buy in. Pathetic. IOTA has been in testing and optimization for almost 2 months, so it's clearly not vaporware. Also it's far from a marketing product, it's the worlds first scalable distributed ledger that takes a brand new approach (Tangle over Blockchain), it's also the worlds first fee-free token, and also the worlds first quantum resistant token, so please take your bullshit elsewhere.

I have as the founder of the project been criticized for being too anti-speculation, if our intention was in any shape, way or form speculation based on marketing then I would not be anti-speculation, nor would I be so scarce with details about big companies that are interested in joining efforts, instead I would hype it. As you should know (given your vast knowledge of IOTA), Microsoft has already teamed up and Wanxiang has given us grant. We've been in touch with Ethereum and Rootstock founders since day 1, none of them has found any flaws in IOTA and we are actively pursuing overlap with them.

I don't mind if you personally don't see the potential in IOTA, but please stop making blatantly false remarks about it.

[l8orre]

Let's be clear. IOTA is just vaporware, and this is just speculation. Some of you will earn, others will lost.

The current marketcap is crazy for a project that did not prove nothing. Just words, hype and promises from the development team.

IOTA is more a marketing product, than a real alternative to any serious crypto project like BTC, ETH, or MAID.

Be aware before investing at these crazy prices.

And no, IOTA is not going to be valued like Ethereum, neither gonna produce a 1000 ROI like NXT.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future.


seems you have already found a way to do aribtrary quantum computations all by yourself.
or did you just not take your meds?  

and by the way: read the whitepaper.

[Come-from-Beyond]

IOTA is just vaporware...

Your definition of "vaporware" seems to be unorthodox.

[iotatoken]

When will this coin hit exchange? I prefer to buy some from exchange.

After beta, so still some weeks to go.

[btcxyzzz]

The current marketcap is crazy for a project that did not prove nothing. Just words, hype and promises from the development team.

Do you really think Microsoft would take a serious look at just another crapcoin?

IOTA is more a marketing product, than a real alternative to any serious crypto project like BTC, ETH, or MAID.

Would not say so given the whitepaper which is available...

And no, IOTA is not going to be valued like Ethereum, neither gonna produce a 1000 ROI like NXT.

100x is very real. 1000 maybe too much, but not impossible.

[wizzardTim]

Guys IOTA can definitely surpass ETH, even BTC!!

We're talking about a revolutionary product here! Don't forget it

[ImI]

Guys IOTA can definitely surpass ETH, even BTC!!

We're talking about a revolutionary product here! Don't forget it

Ok, but isnt IOTA copyable like every other opensource-project?

[Tobo]

Ok, but isnt IOTA copyable like every other opensource-project?

Yes, IOTA is open source. It can be cloned same as Bitcoin and Ethereum.

[50cent_rapper]

Ok, but isnt IOTA copyable like every other opensource-project?

Yes, IOTA is open source. It can be cloned same as Bitcoin and Ethereum.

Not so obvious here. Remember about special hardware support.

[zzzman20]

Well I suppose that's a logical way to look at it.

Haha yep sell em while you can at 25x price before they hit exchanges and are selling for 5x IPO price...  It's almost cruel! Good job guys, well done.

Let's analyze the price of IOTA:

AA/ 25 X IPO price is not something crazy in crypto world, ethereum currently X 70 / NXT was X 1000 / Bitcoin itself got value X 10.000 and more since 1st trades thought there was no IPO as everybody knows.

BB/ even at 25C IPO price market cap is around 12-13 millions $ which is not THAT huge and crazy for crypto, thought it become important.

CC/ IOTA could solve scalability problem / quantum resistant issue (if you follow science news, you can see that issue is growing day after day), it is 1st mover into IOT payment as crypto and can work with other blockchain like ethereum (not competitor but more as partner), this is why I invested a little bit in IOTA as it seemed something really needed in crypto world.

DD/Why did I invest only a little bit as it is sooo good? Because I was a bit affraid of the possibility to really do this coin as it is promised, however now IOTA is on AZURE so a partnership with microsoft means according to me that the technology behind IOTA is working, THIS CHANGE TOTALLY the value of the coin. If I knew that I would have invested much more like most of the people I guess.

EE/Most of the investors of IOTA are on this thread and can already sell their IOTA via escrow and / or NXT AE, some decided to sell and the price where it becomes difficult to match buyer and seller seems to be around 25X IPO price, under this price at around 10-15X IPO you will find a buyer instantly, there was even a buy of 10 millions IOTA for 250 BTC.We are not talking on a GATECOIN exchange where only a tiny share of coins (ethereum) was available so price could jump,( finally the price now of ether is 5X more that it was on gatecoin before ether launch) but most of the investors could sell now their IOTA for a 10X profit for sure.

FF/Now we have 3 types of IOTA holder :

-1/ IPO investors who want to sell at around 25X IPO price, trades are not that easy at this price, but some happen (theses one will probably sell their IOTA on exchange at around 10-30 X IPO price If someone make the calculation of the number of IOTA involved in this situation we would have a clear picture but I guess it is less than 5% of total IOTA )

-2/IPO investors who don't even want to sell at 25X IPO price (most of the coins), theses ones will probably wait for higher prices to sell their IOTA 50 X IPO price  and higher.

-3/2nd hand investors who bought at 10-30X IPO price (theses ones will obviously not sell at same price.

==> if there is a lot of demand at exchange as  the supply will be low  the price could skyroket again.

To sum up my thoughts if you already have IOTA just keep them but don't buy more, however if you don't have any IOTA regarding the last news you should invest 2-5% of you crypto savings in IOTA now and the same amount at the exchange when available if the price drops, for me that would be a wise decision.
It is always dificult to buy 20X more expensive but you could miss the train and you will regret it for years whereas loosing 3% of your crypto savings will not change a lot of things....Look at ethereum if you bought it at 3$...

1 rule in crypto always have a share even a little share in any interesting project, a lot will fail but those who win will get 100-10.000X ROI

[_mr_e]

Still selling much IOTA:

~3 million IOTA for sale at a rate of 1 btc == 40,000 IOTA

Trust or escrow both accepted!


Currently Sold IOTA:

40,000.00 Sold @ 1 btc  cc001
120,000.00 @ 3btc schnib
80,000.00 @ 2btc Metaphilibert
40,000.00 @ 1 btc Yeash20
120,000 @ 3 btc arjen01
60,000 @ 1.5btc MoneyTeam
4,000  @ 0.1btc tk88one
50,000.00 @ 1.25 btc proto

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[hashtag101]

Forget about the ICO price.

At prices that Iota is selling at now, it puts Iotas MC at 12 million.

That's what you should look at!!

12 million is VERY low considering Iotas innovations.

12 million MC will look as small as the ICO price looks now.

Iota is severely undervalued right now, and the people buying are getting an insane deal.

I have no idea why people are selling at all, let alone a such small prices

[Nxtblg]

Forget about the ICO price.

At prices that Iota is selling at now, it puts Iotas MC at 12 million.

That's what you should look at!!

12 million is VERY low considering Iotas innovations.

12 million MC will look as small as the ICO price looks now.

Iota is severely undervalued right now, and the people buying are getting an insane deal.

I have no idea why people are selling at all, let alone a such small prices

According to Coinmarketcap, 12 million would place IOTA at #13 - above Peercoin and a little below NEM.

Lucky 13.

[Breasal]

I have no idea why people are selling at all, let alone a such small prices

Recoup initial investment - just in case Cfb goes skydiving and God forbid the parachute does not open.  

[tyz]

I think iOTA will start much better than we expect. Consider that there is already one big news - the Microsoft Azure platform participation - and one more is coming, not yet released but already settled up. How many coins of the top 20 could claim such news on the beginning? Three or four at maximum. I guess we will see a top 10 placement of iota within the first weeks after release.

Forget about the ICO price.

At prices that Iota is selling at now, it puts Iotas MC at 12 million.

That's what you should look at!!

12 million is VERY low considering Iotas innovations.

12 million MC will look as small as the ICO price looks now.

Iota is severely undervalued right now, and the people buying are getting an insane deal.

I have no idea why people are selling at all, let alone a such small prices

According to Coinmarketcap, 12 million would place IOTA at #13 - above Peercoin and a little below NEM.

Lucky 13.

[50cent_rapper]

I have no idea why people are selling at all, let alone a such small prices

I was dreaming for years to be in situation like early bitcoin adopters who still hold bitcoins bought at 0.10 $.

And I guess someone want to be in situation like those early adopters who sold 10 000 BTC when it hit 1 $. Well, 10 000 backs is cool in 2011. But today it is 4 000 000 USD.

I guess it will be funny to re-read this thread in few years. Mark my words.

[child_harold]

Congrats to axum!

PM me or reply in thread to grab the remaining spots.

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