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October 05, 2010, 09:42:38 PM
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No -- you are making the assumption that a cash-only existence is possible for large criminals.  If what you say is true, then money laundering would not exist, because it would not be necessary.

That's exactly what I'm saying. It isn't only possible; they do it! Money laundering directly through a bank is unnecessary and stupid. The criminals that end up on the news are the stupid ones who thought it was necessary.

But it does.  Drug kingpins have so much cash it is quite literally a problem of size.  After paying all their flunkies, and buying illegal guns and such, they are still stuck with bales of FRNs.  That's why the Feds target any place that might accept large amounts of cash for legitimate items -- cars, houses, boats, non-illegal businesses.

You are still thinking too small. Large criminals simply start their own factories to manufacture arms, cars, and boats. They launder through businesses, not banks! Once they are large enough, they lobby (aka "bribe") politicians to protect their operations through legislation/turning a blind eye to it all. I can provide many examples upon request.

I've seen many city blocks of construction in Moscow that was all built with drug proceeds. The cash was paid directly to the construction workers. (Where is the bank? I don't see one?) This construction wasn't just allowed, but it was given the full cooperation of government. The buildings were either rented (clean legal income from renters), or sold (clean income again).

The only reason this job was figured out was that a government official wasn't paid enough and said something about it. (A rare occurrence.) Think about all of the times it happens unnoticed. By the time the government went after these criminals they had disappeared and were busy working on their next business in another country.

I should say at this time that I do not condone criminal activity. Crime is a social problem that must be understood in order to stop/prevent it.
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October 06, 2010, 06:33:39 AM
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The government is an organised gang. "Outlaw gangs"  at least they have a code of honour. Smiley
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October 06, 2010, 10:35:27 PM
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The government is an organised gang. "Outlaw gangs"  at least they have a code of honour. Smiley

So does the government.  It's the set of laws which they follow.

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October 06, 2010, 11:28:22 PM
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The government is an organised gang. "Outlaw gangs"  at least they have a code of honour. Smiley

So does the government.  It's the set of laws which they follow.

They don't always follow them, they just expect all of us to follow them.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."

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October 06, 2010, 11:48:03 PM
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The government is an organised gang. "Outlaw gangs"  at least they have a code of honour. Smiley

So does the government.  It's the set of laws which they follow.

Yeah but there is no repurcussions for breaking them. If you break the outlaw gangs laws they break your legs.
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October 07, 2010, 12:47:56 AM
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Yeah but there is no repurcussions for breaking them. If you break the outlaw gangs laws they break your legs.

More precisely, if a government have a law voted that is illegal or unconstitutionnal, at some point it *might* (it's not even sure) receive a disapproval from a higher authority (constitutionnal consil, UNO, human right association, whatever...).  But they get away with it with no real sanction, they can just apologize and vote a almost identical law.

The whole thing is a joke.
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October 08, 2010, 06:44:08 PM
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The government is an organised gang. "Outlaw gangs"  at least they have a code of honour. Smiley

So does the government.  It's the set of laws which they follow.

They don't always follow them, they just expect all of us to follow them.

This is also true of the outlaw gangs.  One is not better than the other, they are better and worse in different ways, partly due to differing codes of honor, partly due to matters of scale. 

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