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March 04, 2018, 04:34:38 PM
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March 04, 2018, 05:44:01 PM
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Not sure myself about that.

if they did what they said, and follow thru.  

    as i understand it:

 They had a problem with wallet.

   set all the xvg that users had into a token on their site. xvgt (whatever)

   if you had 100 xvg, u have 100 xvgt...   so far so good.


   they set it so you could still trade it. but not deposit/withdraw.

Still fine.

   Users traded it off, lower and lower, getting out of their position.

 I dont see anything wrong yet.



   Only problem would be... if they put up 1m xvg coins (dont know the number)    they need to buy back those coins.

end of story.    to me, at least they are trying.  (again, thats basing it on what i understood previously. dont know any changes in news etc)


    (when they are ready to buy back those tokens, it should be at the market value of XVG, and not xvgtoken)
 that would be the only issue.

until then...  

  Any direct news that differs from what i said? (typed)
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I think you wrote that once already. Go see C-Cex's twitter page and their BCT-thread, I'm not the only one, who thinks they are scammers. Also Livecoin has had issues with them lately and many others.


yes i did.  (it was a quote)

Everyone can think someone is a scammer. doesnt make it true.

    Until results happen...

that one part, is valid.    as long as they uphold their word.  which we wont know until later on.

    If you sold your xvgtokens,  thats on you, is the point.






Alleine die Tatsache das der XVGCT zum normalen Handel frei ist, ist schon Betrug!!!!!!!
Alle die BTC auf c-cex hatten haben die Coins bei 5 sat gekauft und c-cex hat sich sicher auch mit ein paar millionen rückversichert das der preis unten bleibt!
Die ganze Geschichte stinkt zum Himmel!
Es kommt heute abend noch die Ernte, von dem was C-cex gesäät hat!!


Alone the fact that the XVGCT is free to the normal trade, is already cheating !!!!!!!
All the BTC on c-cex had bought the Coins at 5 sat and c-cex has assuredly reinsured with a few million that the price remains down!
The whole story stinks to heaven!
Today comes the harvest of the seeds that C-cex sowed !!

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March 04, 2018, 05:47:11 PM
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how is that cheating? lol

    If i had coin stuck in there...and they offered a way out, and i took it. thats on me.


 reverse that... the ppl buying those tokens..are other traders.   so they are willing to wait, to get paid from the exchange.

    are they wrong too?

i didnt buy any, but if i did, would i be wrong, buying up what you dont want at 99 sat, thats worth ...500 right now?

    did you sell?  then you have no room to talk. You CHOSE not to wait.

if you are holding. then you are taking the chance that they not pay at all.   I think the will, they paid before when something happened.

   

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March 04, 2018, 05:50:45 PM
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how is that cheating? lol

    If i had coin stuck in there...and they offered a way out, and i took it. thats on me.


 reverse that... the ppl buying those tokens..are other traders.   so they are willing to wait, to get paid from the exchange.

    are they wrong too?

i didnt buy any, but if i did, would i be wrong, buying up what you dont want at 99 sat, thats worth ...500 right now?

    did you sell?  then you have no room to talk. You CHOSE not to wait.

if you are holding. then you are taking the chance that they not pay at all.   I think the will, they paid before when something happened.

   

What happened at C-Cex? Did they lose coins or get hacked or what's the issue?

 
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March 04, 2018, 05:53:31 PM
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with the last Fork, they had trouble making it work. or getting it right etc.

   they froze the deposit/withdraw and moved the asset over to an internal payback token.

   Ppl started selling off their shares, and are now upset that they sold out so low.

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March 04, 2018, 06:09:18 PM
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with the last Fork, they had trouble making it work. or getting it right etc.

   they froze the deposit/withdraw and moved the asset over to an internal payback token.

   Ppl started selling off their shares, and are now upset that they sold out so low.


Do not do it so trivial!
They were silent about the long-term maintenance of xvg's for more than 2 months.
Trade or exchange was not possible! In this time xvg was over 1000 satoshi!
Gian. Do not you really see it?
The sold now has a sixth of the value!
And that's the scam!

Ps .: I do not sell below value! I still need that as proof!

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So you are still holding the xvgtoken?

   they start to repay that yet?

  if they paid you based on 500sat per token. that would be a good thing


  its not trivial, but your handling it badly as well.

With them trying to repay you, thats them trying to do the right thing.

unlike other exchanges that close up, or avoid it in other ways, they are saying they failed
and have a way to repay the coin.

  this method would work.

'the sold' is same value as market. 500ish.  thats the number they should repay at.
   they have not started to repay yet have they?  (im about to look for that news)




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how is that cheating? lol

    If i had coin stuck in there...and they offered a way out, and i took it. thats on me.


 reverse that... the ppl buying those tokens..are other traders.   so they are willing to wait, to get paid from the exchange.

    are they wrong too?

i didnt buy any, but if i did, would i be wrong, buying up what you dont want at 99 sat, thats worth ...500 right now?

    did you sell?  then you have no room to talk. You CHOSE not to wait.

if you are holding. then you are taking the chance that they not pay at all.   I think the will, they paid before when something happened.

  

What happened at C-Cex? Did they lose coins or get hacked or what's the issue?

No one knows. C-Cex official statement is, that there was a technical glitch. I don't know why this giantkin keeps defending C-Cex, after all the problems with them lately. Like I said XVG is not the only problem, they've had many others as well. If C-Cex wanted to buy our coins for market price, they would do so. Not make this kind of coins. Biggest problem in this, is that C-Cex let's users trade this XVGCT, so no one knows, who are selling and for what price they are sold. If this isn't a scam, what is?

And yes, it's easy for you giantkin to speak for others, since it's not your coins, which were lost. Many who were thinking to sell at the top, lost their opportunity and so on. People have every reason to be furious and outraged, for how they are trying to settle this problem. What kind of hard fork happened at December? You probably have sources for that and other statements you gave? And yes, maybe they are more mad, who have lost their coins. I have no intention of selling mine, until they have found better way, to refund our coins.
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March 04, 2018, 06:24:48 PM
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So you are still holding the xvgtoken?

   they start to repay that yet?

  if they paid you based on 500sat per token. that would be a good thing


  its not trivial, but your handling it badly as well.

With them trying to repay you, thats them trying to do the right thing.

unlike other exchanges that close up, or avoid it in other ways, they are saying they failed
and have a way to repay the coin.

  this method would work.

'the sold' is same value as market. 500ish.  thats the number they should repay at.
   they have not started to repay yet have they?  (im about to look for that news)


According to c-cex, they have already bought 3 times. But they buy for 60 satoshi, because that's the market price of their pseudo-tokens .....

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March 04, 2018, 06:33:17 PM
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I agree with the token setup.

  its not that hard. (assuming ccex follows correctly)

    Token given 1:1 for xvg.    ok with me?

You can trade your token for btc if you want.  at any price.  price is now 80sat...  why would you sell it??

 they are saying they will buy it at market value.    So DONT SELL IT BELOW MARKET VALUE.

Put your 'sell' mark at market value.   atm around 600sat.

   the only ones that are gaining, are the ppl BUYING at such low numbers.

not that difficult a concept to understand.

  (again, assuming they buy at market value)

Best advice.  everyone PULL your sell order.


   ----Problem i see.   how to prove that they are buying ANY of the tokens with btc, until someone
lists at the proper amount.

 ie: list at 600.  if they buy it like they say they will....   

its kind of a mess.

   im not defending ccex. i am explaining the Token idea.

I dont like ccex ...too slow.

i have some coins in ccex.

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hell. maybe buy up any you sold at  one price... and get back to where you were. number wise.



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its a mess no matter what.


  I keep seeing messes like that, and wonder what i would do differently
if i was the exchange owner or admin etc.

   Probably would have been better to not make the Token Trade able between users.
that made it drop like a rock from the scared ppl.

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I agree with the token setup.

  its not that hard. (assuming ccex follows correctly)

    Token given 1:1 for xvg.    ok with me?

You can trade your token for btc if you want.  at any price.  price is now 80sat...  why would you sell it??

 they are saying they will buy it at market value.    So DONT SELL IT BELOW MARKET VALUE.

Put your 'sell' mark at market value.   atm around 600sat.

   the only ones that are gaining, are the ppl BUYING at such low numbers.

not that difficult a concept to understand.

  (again, assuming they buy at market value)

Best advice.  everyone PULL your sell order.


   ----Problem i see.   how to prove that they are buying ANY of the tokens with btc, until someone
lists at the proper amount.

 ie: list at 600.  if they buy it like they say they will....  

its kind of a mess.

   im not defending ccex. i am explaining the Token idea.

I dont like ccex ...too slow.

i have some coins in ccex.

  I inferred or assumed, they would be exchanging the tokens 1:1 with real XVG.  The big questions is how soon.  Could grab a bunch of them and make a killing.  Or be a new kind of bag holder.  I've already gotten tokens from other exchanges, and that didn't end well.  This could be different, the amount of BTC is not very large, so the pay back time should be relatively short.  

  Just found https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418700.msg31517864#msg31517864   I stand corrected.  (Guess I assumed).  This means their out to screw everybody.  Do you think they will be buying once the token price is greater then the real price?    They really should be buying XVG and exchanging for the tokens.  Not just buying the tokens.     

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Would like to know more about xvg team! How many are working on development and marketing teams?

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March 05, 2018, 12:57:12 AM
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My electrum xvg wallet for windows doesn't connect presently. tried different servers, tried reinstall - no luck...  it's offline. Does anyone else has same problem?
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My electrum xvg wallet for windows doesn't connect presently. tried different servers, tried reinstall - no luck...  it's offline. Does anyone else has same problem?

you should mention the version, of which ever wallet you are using.
oh and also, perhaps the onion address? (as one is older than the other, if i remember hearing correctly)


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Hallo.
AN ALLE DIE VON C-CEX UM XVG BETROGEN WURDEN!
FÜR ALLE AUS DEUTSCHLAND!
DIE STRAFANZEIGE LÄUFT!
DAS AKTENZEICHEN IST:
ST/0382328/2018
ST/0382328/2018
POLIZEIDIREKTION 72488 SIGMARINGEN
STAATSANWALTSCHAFT 72379 HECHINGEN
Wenn ihr Strafanzeige erstattet. Gebt das Aktenzeichen mit an!
EUROPA/World
Alle die nicht aus Deutschland sind gehen wie folgt vor:
Anzeige bei Ihren Behörden mit dem deutschen Aktenzeichen als Vermerk!
Das Aktenzeichen das ihr von Eurer Behörde Bekommt Postet ihr hier für Eure Landsleute!
AKTENZEICHEN/LAND
Die es ihren Behörden melden mit beiden Aktenzeichen als Vermerk!!!!!!!
Wichtig! Gebt die Summe ca. in Fiat Währung dort an um die es geht.
Ist die Summe groß genug wird sich das BKA einschalten!
Also es muß dann wirklich jeder der es kann mit machen!!!
Sonst werden sie damit durchkommen!
Wenn das BKA sich einschaltet geht es schnell. :-)
Auf gutes Gelingen!
Sendet das Aktenzeichen (Aktenzeichen/Land/Name/) mit der Betrugssumme auch hier hin.  c-cex.fall@t-online.de
Grüße.
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Hello.
TO ALL WHO WERE CHEATED BY C-CEX AT XVG!
FOR ALL FROM GERMANY!
THE PENALTY RUNS!
THE FILE IS:
ST / 0382328/2018
ST / 0382328/2018
POLICE ORIENTATION 72488 SIGMARINGEN
STATE ADVICE 72379 HECHINGEN
If you file a criminal complaint. Give the file number with!
EUROPE / World
All non-Germans are as follows:
Report to your authorities with the German file number as endorsement!
The file number that you receive from your authority Post here for your compatriots!
FILE NUMBER / COUNTRY
Who report it to their authorities with both file numbers as endorsement !!!!!!!
Important! Give the sum about in Fiat currency there it is about.
If the sum is big enough, the BKA will be involved!
So it must be really anyone who can do it with !!!
Otherwise they will get away with it!
When the BKA turns on it goes fast. :-)
Good luck!
Sends the file number (file number / country / name /) with the fraud sum also here. c-cex.fall@t-online.de
Greetings.-----------------------------
PS: Solltet ihr andere Platformen mit Betroffenen kennen, Verlinkt es oder kopiert es dort hin!
GoGo so läuft es!
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PS: If you know other platforms with stakeholders, link or copy it there!
GoGo that's how it works!
You simply exchange the coins for worthless !!!

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Hallo.
AN ALLE DIE VON C-CEX UM XVG BETROGEN WURDEN!
FÜR ALLE AUS DEUTSCHLAND!
DIE STRAFANZEIGE LÄUFT!
DAS AKTENZEICHEN IST:
ST/0382328/2018
ST/0382328/2018
POLIZEIDIREKTION 72488 SIGMARINGEN
STAATSANWALTSCHAFT 72379 HECHINGEN
Wenn ihr Strafanzeige erstattet. Gebt das Aktenzeichen mit an!
EUROPA/World
Alle die nicht aus Deutschland sind gehen wie folgt vor:
Anzeige bei Ihren Behörden mit dem deutschen Aktenzeichen als Vermerk!
Das Aktenzeichen das ihr von Eurer Behörde Bekommt Postet ihr hier für Eure Landsleute!
AKTENZEICHEN/LAND
Die es ihren Behörden melden mit beiden Aktenzeichen als Vermerk!!!!!!!
Wichtig! Gebt die Summe ca. in Fiat Währung dort an um die es geht.
Ist die Summe groß genug wird sich das BKA einschalten!
Also es muß dann wirklich jeder der es kann mit machen!!!
Sonst werden sie damit durchkommen!
Wenn das BKA sich einschaltet geht es schnell. :-)
Auf gutes Gelingen!
Sendet das Aktenzeichen (Aktenzeichen/Land/Name/) mit der Betrugssumme auch hier hin.  c-cex.fall@t-online.de
Grüße.
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Hello.
TO ALL WHO WERE CHEATED BY C-CEX AT XVG!
FOR ALL FROM GERMANY!
THE PENALTY RUNS!
THE FILE IS:
ST / 0382328/2018
ST / 0382328/2018
POLICE ORIENTATION 72488 SIGMARINGEN
STATE ADVICE 72379 HECHINGEN
If you file a criminal complaint. Give the file number with!
EUROPE / World
All non-Germans are as follows:
Report to your authorities with the German file number as endorsement!
The file number that you receive from your authority Post here for your compatriots!
FILE NUMBER / COUNTRY
Who report it to their authorities with both file numbers as endorsement !!!!!!!
Important! Give the sum about in Fiat currency there it is about.
If the sum is big enough, the BKA will be involved!
So it must be really anyone who can do it with !!!
Otherwise they will get away with it!
When the BKA turns on it goes fast. :-)
Good luck!
Sends the file number (file number / country / name /) with the fraud sum also here. c-cex.fall@t-online.de
Greetings.-----------------------------
PS: Solltet ihr andere Platformen mit Betroffenen kennen, Verlinkt es oder kopiert es dort hin!
GoGo so läuft es!
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PS: If you know other platforms with stakeholders, link or copy it there!
GoGo that's how it works!
You simply exchange the coins for worthless !!!

https://c-cex.com/?p=xvgct-btc



Good luck with this. Sorry to hear about this shit.
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March 05, 2018, 04:01:01 PM
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My electrum xvg wallet for windows doesn't connect presently. tried different servers, tried reinstall - no luck...  it's offline. Does anyone else has same problem?

Mine works fine. Check your firewall as it may have been blocked.
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March 05, 2018, 04:03:36 PM
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What problem in C-CEX? I only know the price have dropped for a long time, but don't know any more in C-CEX, will the price keep to drop cheaper? I should sell it or not?

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