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May 06, 2018, 05:25:22 AM
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I doubt verge this time will fall. As verge has proven that it is a very resilient coin always following its master "btc". It is the only coin that goes up whenever btc goes up and goes down when btc goes down. It's market is the opposite of other coins.

If that being the case, "btc" may be due for a lil retrace. Considering verge has fallen back from 940 to 780s.

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May 06, 2018, 08:48:45 AM
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is verge really a true privacy coin? I mean is it like monero or pivx coin or not?
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May 06, 2018, 10:09:57 AM
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is verge really a true privacy coin? I mean is it like monero or pivx coin or not?
Yes, it is. If you want it!

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May 06, 2018, 10:17:00 AM
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hello does anyone know a good pool?
Because at mulipool and miningpoolhub I do not get the coins what the calculator indicates?
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May 06, 2018, 10:28:12 AM
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hello does anyone know a good pool?
Because at mulipool and miningpoolhub I do not get the coins what the calculator indicates?

I'm in dual on this https://cryptocartel.one/
working well for months

If you don't believe it or don't get it, I don't have the time to try to convince you, sorry.
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May 06, 2018, 04:03:35 PM
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XVG marketing is ridiculous. All other shit coins are rising only XVG is red for days. It's really frustrating!

Was it frustrating when XVG outperformed all other coins like hell? If not, maybe you should remember those days and put these red days into better context.

My advice... don't trade with emotions, if you can't, just buy and hodl, come back 6 months later.

It doesn't even have anything to do with emotions in this case. If you buy XVG at the peak after the massive bull run it has head, how can you even complain about somewhat negative performance afterwards? Cheesy it is dumb.

Call it getting rekt lol, buy high sell low lmao

Buy a coin when it increases 10,000% in a month and then start wondering why it doesn't go another 10,000% within a month. Yep!  Cool

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May 06, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
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I look for a good pool for the L3+ asic ?
Some pools you dont get the coins what the calculator say ?
Some one mine with L3+ ?
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May 06, 2018, 06:50:00 PM
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btc price increase in this week causing most verge holders to make a sale, this may cause the verge price down, the current verge price is 0.000007xx btc

It's actually a marathon now, not a sprint so these price swings on daily basis simply don't matter anymore for XVG and XVG is not the same coin as 2 months ago anymore.There won't be crazy dumps and pumps anymore, it will rise normally from here.
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May 06, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
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is verge really a true privacy coin? I mean is it like monero or pivx coin or not?

It is , but it's really a privacy coin, unlike Monero and especially PIVX...
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May 06, 2018, 08:28:50 PM
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I look for a good pool for the L3+ asic ?
Some pools you dont get the coins what the calculator say ?
Some one mine with L3+ ?

i doubt you will ever get what a given calculator shows you.

Too many changing factors involved that change continously while mining. Always use a calculator as some kind of help and not like a precise forcast.

Best is testing, again testing and maybe again testing.

A good pool for L3+ is for sure miningpoolhub on XVG/Scrypt.
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May 06, 2018, 08:57:15 PM
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May 06, 2018, 09:20:00 PM
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I've had to reinstall my Electrum XVG wallet while I wait for my Wraith wallet to sync.

Since I restored my seed phrase, I can no longer connect. I've tried disabling SSL connections, and I tried each of the following servers with no luck:

On port 5002: 83.169.38.218 e1.verge-electrum.com e2.verge-electrum.com e3.verge-electrum.com electrum-xvg.party
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TrafficJunky to Begin Accepting Verge Cryptocurrency on Monday, May 7th
MONTREAL, May 4 2018 – Advertising network TrafficJunky will start accepting Verge cryptocurrency as a payment method as of next Monday, May 7th.
The move comes only a few weeks after Pornhub—, which is a part of the TrafficJunky network of sites-announced they would be allowing users to pay for features using Verge coin. 
Verified advertisers will be able to fund their accounts using Verge and tap into the TrafficJunky network which serves over four billion daily impressions. 
“Pornhub announced they’d be accepting Verge a little over two weeks ago and it was only a matter of time before we followed suit,” explains Rabih Boulmona, TrafficJunky’s Product and Operations Manager. 
Boulmona also mentions his team is “excited to provide yet another convenient and safe method of payment our members can benefit from.” 
Advertisers can find out more about payments using cryptocurrency by contacting their dedicated account manager in order to get the option enabled on their profiles. 
 
About TrafficJunky
TrafficJunky is a leading online advertising network offering advertisers large volumes of quality web, mobile and tablet traffic while helping publishers maximize their online inventory revenue.

https://www.trafficjunky.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TrafficJunky-Now-Accepting-Verge.pdf

Just thought about that trafficjunky deal. If i'am correctly informed traffic junky controls the porn ads, not? If this is the case the majority (if not all) users are companies launching ad campaigns.
If i'am correct with the above than XVG will have about 0 impact on it. It doesn't make sense to use XVG for a company to pay whatever bill since you can not write it off (taxes).
While it sounds good i doubt that this deal will have whatever influence on XVG price.
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TrafficJunky to Begin Accepting Verge Cryptocurrency on Monday, May 7th
MONTREAL, May 4 2018 – Advertising network TrafficJunky will start accepting Verge cryptocurrency as a payment method as of next Monday, May 7th.
The move comes only a few weeks after Pornhub—, which is a part of the TrafficJunky network of sites-announced they would be allowing users to pay for features using Verge coin.  
Verified advertisers will be able to fund their accounts using Verge and tap into the TrafficJunky network which serves over four billion daily impressions.  
“Pornhub announced they’d be accepting Verge a little over two weeks ago and it was only a matter of time before we followed suit,” explains Rabih Boulmona, TrafficJunky’s Product and Operations Manager.  
Boulmona also mentions his team is “excited to provide yet another convenient and safe method of payment our members can benefit from.”  
Advertisers can find out more about payments using cryptocurrency by contacting their dedicated account manager in order to get the option enabled on their profiles.  
 
About TrafficJunky
TrafficJunky is a leading online advertising network offering advertisers large volumes of quality web, mobile and tablet traffic while helping publishers maximize their online inventory revenue.

https://www.trafficjunky.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/TrafficJunky-Now-Accepting-Verge.pdf

Just thought about that trafficjunky deal. If i'am correctly informed traffic junky controls the porn ads, not? If this is the case the majority (if not all) users are companies launching ad campaigns.
If i'am correct with the above than XVG will have about 0 impact on it. It doesn't make sense to use XVG for a company to pay whatever bill since you can not write it off (taxes).
While it sounds good i doubt that this deal will have whatever influence on XVG price.

Even when i am also not sure, if this is such a big news, i still wonder why a company should not be able to write down things they paid with cryptocurrencies? It doesnt matter how you pay. I have a business too. And if i pay a bill with cryptos it is exactly the same as if i had paid it in Euro or Dollar...
In my opinion you could make this a much bigger deal, if you would offer a discount when paying with verge. So you could big companies give a stimulation to buy verge and pay with it.
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Just thought about that trafficjunky deal. If i'am correctly informed traffic junky controls the porn ads, not? If this is the case the majority (if not all) users are companies launching ad campaigns.
If i'am correct with the above than XVG will have about 0 impact on it. It doesn't make sense to use XVG for a company to pay whatever bill since you can not write it off (taxes).
While it sounds good i doubt that this deal will have whatever influence on XVG price.

Even when i am also not sure, if this is such a big news, i still wonder why a company should not be able to write down things they paid with cryptocurrencies? It doesnt matter how you pay. I have a business too. And if i pay a bill with cryptos it is exactly the same as if i had paid it in Euro or Dollar...
In my opinion you could make this a much bigger deal, if you would offer a discount when paying with verge. So you could big companies give a stimulation to buy verge and pay with it.
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Actually right now it's not like that. How are you calculating VAT in crypto? And even more important how are you going to declare VAT in crypto, write offs in crypto to the tax departement?
Next thing is the profit/lose calculation. What are you going to write on your companies busines declaration? Spent 20.000 XVG for advertising? And how are you than fiting this against the USD, Euro or whatever profit calculation. Maybe there are some ways i'am not aware of, but in my european country at this moment this is for sure not possible.

Even one step further. Let's say you deal as a company only with crypto. You make 100.000 XVG profit and 40.000 XVG lose, you have to pay corporate tax on 60k XVG. So you are going to pay your tax departement for example 10k XVG? It's not that easy when it comes to companies and enterprises and taxes as you might think it is.

I'am far away to say there is no solution for it, but i'am not aware of one. Would be interesting to see if someone has, whatever country, a solution for this or how such cases would be handled. Just out of curiousity.
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May 07, 2018, 02:02:04 AM
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What is the best GPU for mining Verge AMD or Nvidia ?
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Well, you can use any coin and instantly say  : Bought X for $19.52 from Joe's Crib
   (and capture the data)   

  as a bus setup you would NOT be using the Stealth Address system, so its going to show.

if you spend any coin, you would just convert it into your country's value at that moment.
    if the coin spent was inclusive, then that includes the VAT /tax crap too.

Just harder to calculate out, but its all there.   I make profits, that I have to tell the irs that i made..

but its hard to prove that i made anything.   (not sure why they do it  that way)


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Well, you can use any coin and instantly say  : Bought X for $19.52 from Joe's Crib
   (and capture the data)   

  as a bus setup you would NOT be using the Stealth Address system, so its going to show.

if you spend any coin, you would just convert it into your country's value at that moment.
    if the coin spent was inclusive, then that includes the VAT /tax crap too.

Just harder to calculate out, but its all there.   I make profits, that I have to tell the irs that i made..

but its hard to prove that i made anything.   (not sure why they do it  that way)



correct.
you just record the relevant USD/fiat price in XVG on the day you used it to pay.
you probably also keep a similar record of the date and USD/fiat value when you bought XVG.

of course another question is why you would need a privacy coin in the first place as a business.
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Just thought about that trafficjunky deal. If i'am correctly informed traffic junky controls the porn ads, not? If this is the case the majority (if not all) users are companies launching ad campaigns.
If i'am correct with the above than XVG will have about 0 impact on it. It doesn't make sense to use XVG for a company to pay whatever bill since you can not write it off (taxes).
While it sounds good i doubt that this deal will have whatever influence on XVG price.

Even when i am also not sure, if this is such a big news, i still wonder why a company should not be able to write down things they paid with cryptocurrencies? It doesnt matter how you pay. I have a business too. And if i pay a bill with cryptos it is exactly the same as if i had paid it in Euro or Dollar...
In my opinion you could make this a much bigger deal, if you would offer a discount when paying with verge. So you could big companies give a stimulation to buy verge and pay with it.

Actually right now it's not like that. How are you calculating VAT in crypto? And even more important how are you going to declare VAT in crypto, write offs in crypto to the tax departement?
Next thing is the profit/lose calculation. What are you going to write on your companies busines declaration? Spent 20.000 XVG for advertising? And how are you than fiting this against the USD, Euro or whatever profit calculation. Maybe there are some ways i'am not aware of, but in my european country at this moment this is for sure not possible.

Even one step further. Let's say you deal as a company only with crypto. You make 100.000 XVG profit and 40.000 XVG lose, you have to pay corporate tax on 60k XVG. So you are going to pay your tax departement for example 10k XVG? It's not that easy when it comes to companies and enterprises and taxes as you might think it is.

I'am far away to say there is no solution for it, but i'am not aware of one. Would be interesting to see if someone has, whatever country, a solution for this or how such cases would be handled. Just out of curiousity.

I live in europe. I have to make all my declarations in euro. And i have to make all my payments to government in euro. So for me it is the same if i pay a bill in USD or in crypto. I have to calculate how much euro are these cryptos/dollars. I can of course not write a bill or get a bill in crypto. But i can get a bill for lets say 1000€ and if the company that wrote the bill accepts crypto i pay them in crypto. But as mentioned, it is the same if i get a USD invoice. I have to calculate how much euro are this. I could also write a bill for 100€ + 19€ VAT, and then i accept getting the value of 119€ in crypto.
I could also pay with or be paid in gold or whatever... It doesnt matter...
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Just thought about that trafficjunky deal. If i'am correctly informed traffic junky controls the porn ads, not? If this is the case the majority (if not all) users are companies launching ad campaigns.
If i'am correct with the above than XVG will have about 0 impact on it. It doesn't make sense to use XVG for a company to pay whatever bill since you can not write it off (taxes).
While it sounds good i doubt that this deal will have whatever influence on XVG price.

Even when i am also not sure, if this is such a big news, i still wonder why a company should not be able to write down things they paid with cryptocurrencies? It doesnt matter how you pay. I have a business too. And if i pay a bill with cryptos it is exactly the same as if i had paid it in Euro or Dollar...
In my opinion you could make this a much bigger deal, if you would offer a discount when paying with verge. So you could big companies give a stimulation to buy verge and pay with it.

Actually right now it's not like that. How are you calculating VAT in crypto? And even more important how are you going to declare VAT in crypto, write offs in crypto to the tax departement?
Next thing is the profit/lose calculation. What are you going to write on your companies busines declaration? Spent 20.000 XVG for advertising? And how are you than fiting this against the USD, Euro or whatever profit calculation. Maybe there are some ways i'am not aware of, but in my european country at this moment this is for sure not possible.

Even one step further. Let's say you deal as a company only with crypto. You make 100.000 XVG profit and 40.000 XVG lose, you have to pay corporate tax on 60k XVG. So you are going to pay your tax departement for example 10k XVG? It's not that easy when it comes to companies and enterprises and taxes as you might think it is.

I'am far away to say there is no solution for it, but i'am not aware of one. Would be interesting to see if someone has, whatever country, a solution for this or how such cases would be handled. Just out of curiousity.

I live in europe. I have to make all my declarations in euro. And i have to make all my payments to government in euro. So for me it is the same if i pay a bill in USD or in crypto. I have to calculate how much euro are these cryptos/dollars. I can of course not write a bill or get a bill in crypto. But i can get a bill for lets say 1000€ and if the company that wrote the bill accepts crypto i pay them in crypto. But as mentioned, it is the same if i get a USD invoice. I have to calculate how much euro are this. I could also write a bill for 100€ + 19€ VAT, and then i accept getting the value of 119€ in crypto.
I could also pay with or be paid in gold or whatever... It doesnt matter...

important is to keep the exact value on the date the transaction has been processed since the crypto price is heavily volatile. but i guess you keep this info.
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